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Invisibleohmatic
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ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial
    #3774142 - 02/13/05 02:46 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

since we lack a proper 'from beginning to end' spawnbag tek,
here we go ohm style:

matrials needed, for 3 medium bags:
3000grams rye
2000grams millet
3 spawnbags
autoklaveable tape
colonised spawn

first of all, this is the grain used, rye (left) and millet (right):


in two bowls, the grains are submerged in pasteurisation broth for ~18-20hrs:
(again rye to the left and millet to the right)


this serves two purposes, first it gets some endospores to germinate
and second it will already start to hydrate our grains.

after the soaking, the grains are being simmered in the same pasteurisation
broth they've been soaking in.
the rye goes ~30 mins, till kernels start popping, the millet is
brought to a boil and let stand for an hour or two.

after properly rinsind and draining the grains, they are mixed throughoutly:


heres a closeup of the best spawnmix out there:


now, three bags are being filled with the grainmix.
i like to fold back the top of the bags to allow easier filling:


now the bags are being folded over like in the pic,
paying attention to avoid knitting and foling them over straight:


now autoklaveable, but jet air penetrable tape is applied over the edges:

it is very important to have properly folded them, otherwise you wont
be able to secure it properly.

now the taped top is folded inwards like in the pic:


rolled up and secured on the bag itself with some additional tape:


now, because it was bedtime for lil ohm already, i slammed them into
the fridge overnight and claved them the next day.
i wonder what my roomies may have thought when they were looking for
food and found spawnbags in the fride:


allright claving time, i like to go ~2hrs @ 15-17psi.

after claving and letting cool, 100grams of colonised millet are used
to spawn the content of the bag.

heres a pic of the spawn used:


as u may guess, its a burma clone :wink:

anyway, after spawning it, i like to twist the top and fold it over once
and secure it using some more tape.

first mixing takes plaec to distro spawn among uncolonised grains.
after ~4 days second and final mixing takes place, at this point the
spawn will already have infected couple kernels if you use a agressive
spawn like me.

after about 5-7 more days the bag will be 100% colonised:


neat eh?

anyway, whats the whole idea about all this taping and bla?
by doing it this way, you can more or less infinitely reuse your bags,
without sealing them or poking holes inside or whatever.
clearly, when spaning the bags, you have to maintain aseptic condeitions,
meaning you will have to use a flowhood or a glovebox,
but ive also had success in open air, eventhough this is just due to
me being incredibly lucky sometimes.

but you know what they say, fools are the lucky ones,
god damn im one hell of a fool then.

aight guys, 'njoy!
peace ohm :mushroom2:

*edit*
alternatively, if one does not want to use the tape for some reason,
you can simply fold over the bags top a couple times and secure it in place.
you can use standard rubberbands, or clamps or whatever for it:

image nicked from somewhere on the 'oomery.

loadem to the pc:


and impulse seal:

(both images nicked from the nook)

anyway i still like my way better, since i can re-use the bags,
by sealing them you wouldnt be able to do so.


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Edited by ohmatic (02/14/05 09:02 AM)


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #3774179 - 02/13/05 02:54 PM (12 years, 19 days ago)

Nice ohm! 5 shrooms
Got to try zum bags myself :laugh:


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: Arp]
    #3774271 - 02/13/05 03:21 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

where you get the tape from (will duct tape work?)








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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: casper7512]
    #3774856 - 02/13/05 06:25 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

somewhat sketchy...

why do i need to soak my grains before pc'ing them?


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: GED]
    #3774933 - 02/13/05 06:44 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

casper7512 said:
where you get the tape from (will duct tape work?)





duct tape will melt, you shall be looking for this paper like tape.
you can find it in any hardware store around my place,
im quite sure that it also can be found in the us.
i do not know its exact name right now, but ill find out.


Quote:

lumens said:
somewhat sketchy...

why do i need to soak my grains before pc'ing them?




i love people who do not read threads properly and ask stuff that
is already COVERED in the thread itself.

here for you again:
Quote:


in two bowls, the grains are submerged in pasteurisation broth for ~18-20hrs:
(again rye to the right and millet to the left)


this serves two purposes, first it gets some endospores to germinate
and second it will already start to hydrate our grains.


after the soaking, the grains are being simmered in the same pasteurisation
broth they've been soaking in.
the rye goes ~30 mins, till kernels start popping, the millet is
brought to a boil and let stand for an hour or two.




oh and its not sketchy at all - its badass :wink:

peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: GED]
    #3774944 - 02/13/05 06:47 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

dude what are you talking about somewhat sketchy? He already explained soaking before PCIng gives the endospore bacteria a chance to germinate.

I hope you were saying you were sketchy in your understanding...because I think it is a nice pic tek.

so there.


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I know what strikes me as odd about this. It is totally unnatural. The whole idea is just totally backwards.

So are historians going to look back at 'The Great Cake Eaters'? Damn. That was a backwards step in the evolutionary process. We left Shroomheads in the dust. Welcome to the new age of Vermheads.

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I ONLY STUDY legal, edible mushrooms and mycology. Any mention of any other kind of mushroom is purely fictional, and pictures are ripped from the internet. I do not grow mushrooms!


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ADoobie]
    #3774982 - 02/13/05 06:54 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

I never said it was a bad tek...

I just posted my comment...and a question.

Don't be a such a fucking pussy about it... :rolleyes:


Edited by GED (02/13/05 06:55 PM)


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: GED]
    #3775134 - 02/13/05 07:21 PM (12 years, 18 days ago)

nice tek and excellent timing, i'm just about ready to purchase some spawn bags and rye... also i just posted a new thread asking about ways to seal the bags w/o a sealer thing (lol, forget the name now), thx


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: SoK]
    #3777091 - 02/14/05 03:14 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

DUde you rule you austrian dreadlocked hippie!! I think this would kick ass.


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: GregHimself]
    #3777153 - 02/14/05 03:45 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

ah u cheapass those bags are only 30 cents each if you buy 100 like the big dogs do


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #3777364 - 02/14/05 06:04 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

what exactly is pastuerization broth? what can it be made from and how?


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ChrisHippyLoser]
    #3777384 - 02/14/05 06:12 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

ChrisHippyLoser said:
what exactly is pastuerization broth? what can it be made from and how?




pasteurisation broth is the remaining water from the pasteuristion process
of dung or straw.

its quite ritch of nutes since during the pasteurisation some get
strained of the substrate, and it would be too sad not to use it
to further enritchen the grains by soaking / simmering.

also, if there was a ph buffer agend used in the pasteurisation water,
you will give your grains a nice ph aswell, another very nice fact.
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #3777579 - 02/14/05 09:09 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

Very cool.

10 days is wikid.

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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: haysoos]
    #3777873 - 02/14/05 11:15 AM (12 years, 18 days ago)

hey ohm ive seen alot about this turkey roaster bag tek, i thought i would throw the link in here 4 u =) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post3654135
glad to see your nook love ohmatic =)


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: S8N]
    #3782566 - 02/15/05 10:03 AM (12 years, 17 days ago)

*dropkick bump*
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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