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ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial
    #3777212 - 02/14/05 04:20 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

since we lack a proper 'from beginning to end' spawnbag tek,
here we go ohm style:

matrials needed, for 3 medium bags:
3000grams rye
2000grams millet (parakeet seed)
3 spawnbags
autoklaveable tape (masking tape)
colonised spawn

first of all, this is the grain used, rye (left) and millet (right):


in two bowls, the grains are submerged in pasteurisation broth for ~18-20hrs:
(again rye to the right and millet to the left)


this serves two purposes, first it gets some endospores to germinate
and second it will already start to hydrate our grains.

after the soaking, the grains are being simmered in the same pasteurisation
broth they've been soaking in.
the rye goes ~30 mins, till kernels start popping, the millet is
brought to a boil and let stand for an hour or two.

after properly rinsind and draining the grains, they are mixed throughoutly:


heres a closeup of the best spawnmix out there:


now, three bags are being filled with the grainmix.
i like to fold back the top of the bags to allow easier filling:


now the bags are being folded over like in the pic,
paying attention to avoid knitting and foling them over straight:


now autoklaveable, but jet air penetrable tape (masking tape) is applied over the edges:

it is very important to have properly folded them, otherwise you wont
be able to secure it properly.

now the taped top is folded inwards like in the pic:


rolled up and secured on the bag itself with some additional tape:


now, because it was bedtime for lil ohm already, i slammed them into
the fridge overnight and claved them the next day.
i wonder what my roomies may have thought when they were looking for
food and found spawnbags in the fride:


allright claving time, i like to go ~2hrs @ 15-17psi.

after claving and letting cool, 100grams of colonised millet are used
to spawn the content of the bag.

heres a pic of the spawn used:


as u may guess, its a burma clone :wink:

anyway, after spawning it, i like to twist the top and fold it over once
and secure it using some more tape.

first mixing takes plaec to distro spawn among uncolonised grains.
after ~4 days second and final mixing takes place, at this point the
spawn will already have infected couple kernels if you use a agressive
spawn like me.

after about 5-7 more days the bag will be 100% colonised:


neat eh?

anyway, whats the whole idea about all this taping and bla?
by doing it this way, you can more or less infinitely reuse your bags,
without sealing them or poking holes inside or whatever.
clearly, when spaning the bags, you have to maintain aseptic condeitions,
meaning you will have to use a flowhood or a glovebox,
but ive also had success in open air, eventhough this is just due to
me being incredibly lucky sometimes.

but you know what they say, fools are the lucky ones,
god damn im one hell of a fool then.

aight guys, 'njoy!
peace ohm :mushroom2:

*edit*
alternatively, if one does not want to use the tape for some reason,
you can simply fold over the bags top a couple times and secure it in place.
you can use standard rubberbands, or clamps or whatever for it:

image nicked from somewhere on the 'oomery.

loadem to the pc:


and impulse seal:

(both images nicked from the nook)

anyway i still like my way better, since i can re-use the bags,
by sealing them you wouldnt be able to do so.


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Edited by ohmatic (05/08/06 02:30 PM)


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #3777739 - 02/14/05 10:19 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Very nice work, thank you for putting the effort forward for all of us.


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #3779473 - 02/14/05 06:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Nice!


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: World Spirit]
    #3782623 - 02/15/05 10:31 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

just the best for you guys :wink:
peace ohm :mushroom2:


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #3840489 - 02/27/05 10:22 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Nicely done yah hippie :laugh: 


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: GregHimself]
    #3844220 - 02/27/05 11:39 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

OOPS, sry....meant: RE: Ohmatic....i gotta get used to this.

Thanks =)


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: chocbruce]
    #3867115 - 03/04/05 11:33 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hey Ohm, I'll be using your strawbag tek to spawn my outdoor bed. :wink:


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #3877445 - 03/06/05 03:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

great to see you can make good use of it pinkfloydms :smile:
non better than helping the pees aye?
btw its spawnbag, not strawbag :wink:


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #5376359 - 03/08/06 01:38 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

How many pints does each bag equal to?


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #5376812 - 03/08/06 10:21 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ohmatic said:
matrials needed, for 3 medium bags:
3000grams rye
2000grams millet
3 spawnbags





5000grams of grain / 3 bags = 1666 grams of grain per bag = approx 10 quarts worth = approx 20 pints worth
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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #5382602 - 03/09/06 08:59 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

This makes a SHIT LOAD Grain. Boy-o-Boy!


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #5562709 - 04/27/06 02:40 PM (11 years, 5 days ago)

humm... do you buy this bags with filter? if not.. how do you make the filter, or what do you use has filter?


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: homusubi]
    #5563116 - 04/27/06 04:48 PM (11 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

homusubi said:
humm... do you buy this bags with filter? if not.. how do you make the filter, or what do you use has filter?




standard spawnbags have filters, i use them.


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #6696188 - 03/21/07 07:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I've run the numbers, and for those who are interested, I have a
conversion factor for converting kg of rye to quarts of spawn:

0.5 kg/qt

or 2 qt/kg

assuming 5kg of dry rye made 10 quarts of spawn.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: ohmatic]
    #7890006 - 01/16/08 09:57 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry for the n00b questions, but what is pasteurization broth? Is it just water?

Is it possible to sterilize the bags any other way if you don't have an autoclave?


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: toomuchtv]
    #7891526 - 01/17/08 03:14 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Great Tek ! Gonna use it soon for my project. Thanks...


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Re: ohm's spawnbag tek - pictorial [Re: atomicblue]
    #10936878 - 08/25/09 09:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

seriously great...just the motivation I needed to start my project too---except Im going to try the same base amounts spread through 5-6 bags--in case they get infected...less lost

plus were reusing so its not like Im wasting more bags :smile:


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