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Do you have to poop outside?
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I am thinking of trying some outdoor cultivation if I end up with too many jars for my limited casing area.

Never having done this (and needing a new lighbulb for my desklamp), I am a little in the dark.

All I have seen on outdoor growing uses poop. Do I have to? I don't like poop. I'd rather use vermiculite and potting soil, like I am casing with. Can that be done?

Any help is appreciated.

Abesters

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: AbeZard]
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i dont know but you might want to change your subject, youre probably gonna lose a lot of people from reading it that are semi busy just because they might think you bullshitting. my two cents, of course im 18 and I think anything to do with poop is funny, so thats why I checked this post out, cause i thought i would LAUGH.

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: thegoldenteacher]
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if you poop outside - you can use leaves as toilet paper

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: AbeZard]
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Shrooms will not grow on verm and potting soil, You need compost or straw or it won't be worthwhile. You can make good compost without using dung. Using things like soybean meal, cottonseed meal, blood meal, even grass clippings and other nitrogen supplements, then a carbon source such as straw, wood shavings, dead leaves. I have steady outdoor crops, but they don't produce near as much as indoors. The only reason I do it is because I have way more compost than I can use indoors.

Growth is alot slower outdoors unless you live in a place where the humidity stays over 80%, plus bugs are a bitch.


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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: AbeZard]
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You can make outdoor casings, much like you would inside, but they don't perform very well in comparison. You might try spawing some straw outdoors, that could produce a decent single flush. But if your gonna have good success outdoors with cubensis you need dung or a dung based compost. The compost doesn't look or even smell like poo, you can't visually tell it apart from regular potting soil. People are just crazy, you probably don't realize how much poo you touch every day.

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
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There are Outdoor Teks on Ryche Hawk's site at www.thehawkseye.com

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
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There are outdoor teks on Ryche Hawk's site @ www.thehawkseye.com

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: scribbles]
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Thanks for the referral to the outdoor teks.
By the way, the humidity here is DEFINITELY over 80% (lower carolinas coast) and I have a nice shaded area hidden behind my wolf's house I think will work.
Abe

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: AbeZard]
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Yes, it will definately work, and I repeat, no you don't need dung to make good compost that mushrooms like. I had very much success this spring, and up until about a week or two ago with my patches, I used 1 qt of grain spawn to inoculate about a wheelbarrel full of compost. Let it colonize outdoors out of 4 patches, only two fruited alot, but once they started, I picked aobut 7 oz dry total until they quit.

You don't really get normal flushes like indoors, with me, there were just constantly fruits growing all the time, just keep it damp, not soaked. You should have more success since my humidity avg's about 50%. They really picked up in the rain since it brought up the humididy.

But like the others said, horse and cow dung really isn't that grose, and would be your easiest route.


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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: slither]
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yep much rather work with cow shit than nasty compost

i can believe its not butter but why would you do that


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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: fuzzysquirelnuts]
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How does the contamination rate of dung compare with compost?  I'm ok with using shit if it's the best option, although, my usual method of determining the humidity content of my casings is to remove the lid and take a big whiff... :tongue:

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Re: Do you have to poop outside? [Re: fuzzysquirelnuts]
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Well making compost is a nasty job even when not using dung. My last batch that had no dung in it smelled worse while it was composting than the previous batch that did have dung in it. I have a very large compost tumbler so it makes things like turning it alot easier, but you still have to stick your hands in ammonia smelling compost with insect larvae in it to redistribute stuff and take it out when it's done.

It's also alot harder to pasteurize compost than it is dried cow patties. Try pasteurizing a basket full of compost in a 55 gal drum, it doesn't got hot enough unless you immerse it, then you leach out all the nutrients, but with dung, you can just immerse the patties in the drum and pour it all out.

Plus it's hard to make a big enough pile without some sort of bin that will heat up enough to compost, well it's not hard to make it, but hard to turn it without a front end loader.


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