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OfflineOpenminded
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Pleiospilos bolusii
    #3496185 - 12/14/04 08:54 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Does anyone have any detailed information on the phytochemistry of this? A few places seem to be selling it now, apparently it contains mesembrine and has effects similar to sceletium. I've ordered three plants because I found somewhere selling them for ?1 each and they're quite pretty, but it would be interesting to know more about it... It seems that just about every one of the mesembryanthemaceae contains something interesting!



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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Openminded]
    #3496355 - 12/14/04 10:57 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

All I know is that seems very similar to sceletium in every aspect, active dose is supposed to be 50-100 mg, and it needs to be fermented due to the oxalates. The drug is called Skeng Skeng or Duimpie Snuif.


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #3496877 - 12/14/04 01:37 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Cool, I'll do some searches with those names. Maybe when they arrive I'll sacrifice one for research purposes :wink:.
I did find one previous mention of it here, Aneglakya mentioned it as being more active than sceletium. Interesting!


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Openminded]
    #3499057 - 12/14/04 07:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Can you hook us up with a link for the one dollar plants??


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Legoulash]
    #3502710 - 12/15/04 09:34 AM (11 years, 11 months ago)

< mod edit - this thread probably precedes the no non sponsor link rule, but i'll have to edit it out anyway considering that it has been bumped, thanks for the link though! :smirk: >

?1.75 actually, my mistake! I doubt they're very old, I ordered from them mainly because it's a UK site so postage should be nice and fast. I think it's a fairly common plant for specialist nurseries to sell though, I'm sure there are plenty of places doing good deals.


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Openminded]
    #3549615 - 12/27/04 08:46 PM (11 years, 11 months ago)

Here are the neliis that I got! One has an old flower on it, so hopefully soon I'll get some pretty flowers from the larger ones, and maybe some seeds!



My bolusiis should be here within ~1 week...


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Openminded]
    #4926509 - 11/12/05 07:34 PM (11 years, 28 days ago)

Ive been wondering if nellii is active also?


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: shamantra]
    #4926822 - 11/12/05 09:48 PM (11 years, 28 days ago)

very interesting, are they related to stone cacti at all?


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: HerbanShaman]
    #4926837 - 11/12/05 09:56 PM (11 years, 28 days ago)

atrocarpus or whatever you mean?


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: the man]
    #4927894 - 11/13/05 03:21 AM (11 years, 27 days ago)

mmm i came across a thread in the mesembs yahoo group where
they were talking about P. nelii being bought for its presumed alcaloid content but that this was silly as only the delopserma
have any alcaloids bla bla...

so where does this info come from? what is known about this exactly?

you should know that growing these things is way different then any cactus or succullent, with respect to watering needs.
part of the time in its growing cycle it will absorb moisture from the
old leafs as it makes a new pair and watering in this period could cause it to burst.

they are not related to stone cacti, or any other cacti.
they are succulents in the same group as Lithops, conophytum etc.
plants commenly refered to as 'living stones'...


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Vertigo6911]
    #4928289 - 11/13/05 10:01 AM (11 years, 27 days ago)

I cant remember where i heard it was active.


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: shamantra]
    #9652655 - 01/21/09 04:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Can anyone comment on the growth rate of these? If they are slow, it dosen't seem like they would yield much material (and I assume you would have to destroy the whole plant for use etc.). Also, I have seen a few sites now referring to them being 'actively' similar to Kanna.


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: shroomaker]
    #9652725 - 01/21/09 04:49 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

They sell those at the Home depot,and Lowe's here.I had a few of them,and they never grew,or flowered,and they split open,and looke awful,so I sold them at a yard sale.I didn't know they were active,and now I think I'll get some more:grin:


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: KBG1977]
    #9652820 - 01/21/09 05:06 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

:congrats: Good job Dr. Frankenstein, this post has been dead for 3 years.


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: shroomaker]
    #9652845 - 01/21/09 05:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

shroomaker: please start a new thread if you have a question instead of dragging up ancient threads that have been long dead.
you didn't really break any rules it is just considered bad form.

thanks :thumbup:


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #9653197 - 01/21/09 06:06 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah,I saw that it was an old thread too,but didn't know it was bad form to reply to old threads,sorry:grin:


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: KBG1977]
    #9653221 - 01/21/09 06:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

You didn't bring it back up:tongue:

Either way for information's sake, I had two of those and they turned to mush and died. Seem to rot easily.


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: Cactusdan]
    #9653226 - 01/21/09 06:10 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah,one of mine did that very thing,and the others cracked open.They are very difficult to grow.


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: KBG1977]
    #9653294 - 01/21/09 06:22 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

KBG1977 said:
Yeah,I saw that it was an old thread too,but didn't know it was bad form to reply to old threads,sorry:grin:



reply all you like since it got dragged back up :tongue:
bloodnashes just doesn't know how to use the quick reply feature, that is all :tongue:


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Re: Pleiospilos bolusii [Re: KBG1977]
    #9653355 - 01/21/09 06:31 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

:tongue: I just find it easier to goto the bottom haha.


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