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OfflinePsike
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how much experience is needed to grow Pan Cyans?
    #339581 - 06/13/01 02:01 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i've had experience growing P. cubensis but am not sure about the leap to growing Pan Cyans. i've read the Pans are far more potent, but harder to cultivate. and also, should the Pans be cased only? and is there a special tek for the Pan Cyanscens?

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Re: how much experience is needed to grow Pan Cyans? [Re: Psike]
    #339591 - 06/13/01 02:15 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

You should ask this question in the cultivation forum. You would get more answers.



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Re: how much experience is needed to grow Pan Cyans? [Re: Psike]
    #343539 - 06/18/01 01:01 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

experiance doesn't do much.... it just makes things easier.... almost anyone here will tell you that its determination and hardwork that counts most. try, try, again.

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Re: how much experience is needed to grow Pan Cyan [Re: Psike]
    #343769 - 06/18/01 07:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I'm in the same boat Psike. I've grown P. Cubs several times and I would say my knowlege is pretty good when it comes to simple teks and popular strains. I was thinking of trying to grow Pan. Cyan's but I'm still not sure if I'm ready. I have yet to get really good results from a casing so I think I need more practice there. I might try some B+, Hawain, or some Cambodians first. If that goes well, then maybe I'll try the Cyans or Azures.

Grimace

P.S. This should be moved to Cultivation. Can you do that admin?

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Re: how much experience is needed to grow Pan Cyan [Re: Grimace]
    #343856 - 06/18/01 09:50 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Ok dude do this! PF style jars, and HOLY DOG SHIT does it work well!!!

Originally posted by BJ at the Shroomery

Pan Cyan 101

Substrate recipe:

5 cups of vermiculite
3 cups manure
10 tablespoons of brown rice flour
2 cups of water

This will make 10-12 half pint jars of substrate.

Since there is manure already in the substrate you will not have to worry about colonizing manure later. This greatly reduces the risk of failure(contamination) and also reduces cultivation time.

Boil/preassure cook jars of substrate as usual, and innoculate in the usual manner.

When jars are fully colonized, slice/crumble the substrate over a moist layer of vermiculite. Casing is NOT required, but I like to case with composted manure. Case them very thinly(1/8-1/4 inch), just enugh to fill in the cracks and crannies and just so you can't see substrate. Basically just enough to make a nice even layer, instead of a lumpy one. 50/50 casing mix also will work fine.

If you can grow cubes using a casing method Trops(Cyans) are a breeze! They are Faster to grow and MUCH more potent than cubes, and every bit as easy!!

Again casing is NOT required but it won't hurt, just case them thin(no more than a 1/2 inch, less is faster).


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Re: how much experience is needed to grow Pan Cyans? [Re: Psike]
    #343890 - 06/18/01 10:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I would say get some practice with growing cubies on dung/compost before trying pans. Cyan's and Trop's do best on poop and cubies do great on it too, and its not much harder. But if your thinking your gonna grow Pan's ala PF/MMGG then you better think again.

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Re: how much experience is needed to grow Pan Cyans? [Re: jonnyshaggs420]
    #344026 - 06/19/01 12:40 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

right now i am trying to cultivate pans using the manure verm and brf substrate mentioned by I Sore. its working great!! i got 6 jars that i am going to case very soon and theres 6 more on their way. to be thruthful, ive tried to cultivate psilocybins 4 times and it only worked once when i used the hippie tek. the rest of the times i fucked up the mycelium either by heat or whatever, and ive also never got contams! so if i can cultivate pans with only one succeding attempt of psilos then most of you can do it. just make sure youre really clean.

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