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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: 2Experimental]
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Ugh america is a federation of states, not people. The electorial college is the correct and only way to hold american presidential elections.


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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: 2Experimental]
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Uh, take a poli sci class dude, theres a damn good reason the popular vote doesn't decide the president. There needed to be a compromise between the nationalists, who wanted direct voting, and state-soveriegnty advocates that wanted state legislatures to vote for president. They came to the compromise that the total amount of representatives the state has in washington was the amount of electors they would have. This created a balance between small and large states.

If there was a direct vote, candidates would cater only to the urban needs and ignore rural interrests, and rural states for that matter because they have no power. its a good system, just a little tricky...

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: vivid]
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I AM in political science.. past midterm.. I HAVE taken a pretty in depth look into the political systems of America, and I have decided this is the way I think it should be. Candidates NEED to cater to the urban needs, they NEED to appeal to the majority of the ENTIRE population.. The way we have it now, a small group of rich folks are controlling 85% of the wealth in America... if we did away with the electoral college, the PEOPLE would be heard... fuck, our democracy is a hypocrisy

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: 2Experimental]
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Oh god, please shoot yourself before you ruin our country by voting.

elitism in politics has nothing to do with the electoral college, it has to do with campaign finance.

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: vivid]
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cater to urban areas and you'll have LA and NYC sucking all the resources dry, without an plan of replenishment, the economy would be destroyed because ag. would suffer immensely, and taxes would be insane paying for all the social services, expansion of urbanization etc. Urban areas, especially like LA and the socal metro are the blight of america, it destroys environments from san francisco, to colorado by stealing all the water. YOU NEED A BALANCE.. if you can't see that, you should retake poli sci next year.

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
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Amethyst_Acid said:
if you're going to vote libertarian or green, you may as well just vote for bush


Everyone stop fucking saying this!!!!!
5 days and counting, guys. Wake up.
There are four or five states that are going to determine this election. If you don't live in one of them, stop using this as an excuse not to vote third party.
SS7's in Cali. He can vote for whoever he wants.


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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: vivid]
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Quote:
.. if you can't see that, you should retake poli sci next year.


I may need too if I can;t pull off a decent grade... But I am pullin a 75% as of now, with invested projects that should bring me to a 80% as final grade :wink:



PS. I am gonna avoid replying to your political assumptions and landslide conversational techniques. Of COURSE you need a Balance... and what we have now, is NOT a balance.. Pss.. I bet your voting Bush... and BTW, I am not voting, I am gonna protest the vote, because my candidate is not on the ballet, and by spending gas money to go stand in line, I am saying I support the war in Iraq( okok, I realize this may be a stretch)

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: 2Experimental]
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lol yeah, i'm voting bush, you got my number. i'm voting for Cobb. I'm actually meeting him on the 2nd in cotati, california to thank him for running for my party. protesting the vote is ridiculous. There are tons of measures on your ballot, state, local, representatives other than presidents. But yeah, dont vote, you dont have the intelligence.

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: vivid]
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of course I got your number, the apes are easy to point out.. I was hoping this to not turn into a flame fest but it seems you can't resort to anything except insulting my intelligence..

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: 2Experimental]
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eh fair enough, I was trying to avoid a flame war too, but I get pretty heated when i start discussing politics, it is my major. sorry for insulting you.

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: vivid]
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yes, I meant no insult as well..  a rule of thumb is: Don't discuss religion or politics with anyone , too personal, people get heated, etc. :peace: :grin:

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: 2Experimental]
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eh its good to discuss, civily.. its the civil part that i've always had issues with. :shrug:

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: Jenny]
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i still feel like im voting between a giant douche and a turd sandwhich. Either way i dont really care who wins, and the local stuff id vote for is in my home town which i currently know nothing about. I got an absentee and i dunno if ima just write some crap in or what.


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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: Amethyst_Acid]
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Amethyst_Acid said:
kerry HAS to win. if he doesn't, i will curl up in the fetal position and cry for days.


Fuck that, it will be time to take to the streets my friends.


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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: baraka]
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you SHOULD cares who wins, because your future matters because of it. I'm not going to start preaching my pro kerry attitude on you, i'm just pretty sure you haven't done good quality research on candidates with that mindless, typical nonvoting pot smoking teenager attitude.


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Mindfulness is the aware, balanced acceptance of the present experience.
It isn't more complicated than that.
It is opening to or recieving the present moment, pleasant or unpleasant, just as it is,
without either clinging to it or rejecting it.

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: baraka]
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Yeah man, vote. Even if you are a pot smoking teenager.
There are candidates out there who will immediately legalize pot.
Spend the next 5 days reading up and make an informed decision.


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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: Gijith]
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^^^ they support the decriminalization of marijuana but it would take more than just a presidents support to make MJ legal on a Federal level. There is even an international treaty that we would have to violate.

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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: fuzzybudz]
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Seriously guys please vote. I'd give up my Canadian vote for your American vote in a second, I'm scared to death that Bush will have another 4 years of power (not necessarily saying he'll be elected...but some how he'll fuck the vote and get in). You guys are voting for who you think should run YOUR country, but keep in mind this guy is also gonna be messing around in OUR world.


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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: Gillette]
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Seriously. If I could, I would vote. It's so important now, so much more now then it ever was in the past.

Your country affects every single one of our lives.


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Re: Kerry Rally today [Re: CherryBom]
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hey I was at this rally...

had no idea other shroomerites were there.

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