Generic said:

holy spirits, yes, yes.

i have friends that go travel to collect pine nuts from those.  I should go to pine nut camp one year, but you really have to be invited and have utmost respect.

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Generic said:

yeah i get gifted and eat pints of them each year, but i don't know that i have the right environment to plant those and give them a good life.  would be cool to learn more about their habitat, maybe hike up a hill by the jeffrey pines and plant some to be able to commune with them?  they like rocky infertile well drained soil, no?

I don't travel much at all

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Generic said:

yeah i get gifted and eat pints of them each year, but i don't know that i have the right environment to plant those and give them a good life.  would be cool to learn more about their habitat, maybe hike up a hill by the jeffrey pines and plant some to be able to commune with them?  they like rocky infertile well drained soil, no?

I don't travel much at all

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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:

Best buddies

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BeefExtreme said:

Generic said:

holy spirits, yes, yes.

i have friends that go travel to collect pine nuts from those.  I should go to pine nut camp one year, but you really have to be invited and have utmost respect.

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well, you can collect seed on blm land with a license. only reason i know this is that i got caught collecting single leaf ash seeds by the blm.  didnt get a ticket, but i sure could
have. 

you can collect rock with the same license. i now use it mostly to colllect native penstemon seeds with my mom. 

its true though that some of the best specimens tend to be on ute land, and whitey just dont go there.  i was invited to ute mountain once, to collect seed and cuttings to propagate the plants for an install of a traditional ute medicine gaden at the lodge at ute mountain.  it was a tremendous honor.

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Mr Piggy said:

Churpee Choozle said:

(Here, that is. I mean you guys have Oaks with sharply serrated leaves and whatnot.)

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HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercus_garryana

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I said that because the only ones we have here are Q rubra and Q palustris. You guys have like 80 species right... We just have robur, sometimes a petraea and sometimes a frainetto or something. Only in the south are 'pointy' oaks, like Q ilex. For the rest is just your invasive stuff, and thanks for that

BeefExtreme said:

pig i wont quote all that but that was a great adventure you took us on thanks.  ive been out to san juan island but one time.  thats a truly magical place.  i used to bash around that side of hood often.  little ways away, but you ever go up to bagby springs? i used to love to take a few grams and hike up there on a full moon and sit in the tubs.  monstrous old pines up there, wasnt sure what they were.  last i heard bagby was closed from a fire or some such.  shame.  god damn shame if its true.

i always wondered pig, if what you guys call "scrub oak"
is the damn same plant or close enough to what we call scrub oak.  we have "gambel oak" the old timers call scrub oak, and it looks almost identical really.  gets those same cool little spotted galls that look almost like a quail egg.  ive made flour from the acorns too.  i wonder if theyre cousins?

quercus gambelii

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BeefExtreme said:

Generic said:

holy spirits, yes, yes.

i have friends that go travel to collect pine nuts from those.  I should go to pine nut camp one year, but you really have to be invited and have utmost respect.

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well, you can collect seed on blm land with a license. only reason i know this is that i got caught collecting single leaf ash seeds by the blm.  didnt get a ticket, but i sure could
have. 

you can collect rock with the same license. i now use it mostly to colllect native penstemon seeds with my mom. 

its true though that some of the best specimens tend to be on ute land, and whitey just dont go there.  i was invited to ute mountain once, to collect seed and cuttings to propagate the plants for an install of a traditional ute medicine gaden at the lodge at ute mountain.  it was a tremendous honor.

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1NFIN8 said:

BeefExtreme said:

Generic said:

holy spirits, yes, yes.

i have friends that go travel to collect pine nuts from those.  I should go to pine nut camp one year, but you really have to be invited and have utmost respect.

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well, you can collect seed on blm land with a license. only reason i know this is that i got caught collecting single leaf ash seeds by the blm.  didnt get a ticket, but i sure could
have. 

you can collect rock with the same license. i now use it mostly to colllect native penstemon seeds with my mom. 

its true though that some of the best specimens tend to be on ute land, and whitey just dont go there.  i was invited to ute mountain once, to collect seed and cuttings to propagate the plants for an install of a traditional ute medicine gaden at the lodge at ute mountain.  it was a tremendous honor.

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Not far from where I spend a lot of time. I haven’t been to Sleeping Ute Mtn though.

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BeefExtreme said:

temp change to subjet line.  loving this . its not often i learn more about trees than i already knew . do carry on pig and friends.

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BeefExtreme said:

hmm. sounds about right.  some things are just better left pristine in memory i guess.  That was over 20 years ago now.
like recently I tried watching the movie never-ending story. big mistake.  shoulda left it.  shouldntv did that.

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