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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
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C. S. Lewis,


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  We all want progress. But progress means getting nearer to the place where you want to be. And if you have taken a wrong turning then to go forward does not get you any nearer. If you are on the wrong road progress means doing an about-turn and walking back to the right road and in that case the man who turns back soonest is the most progressive man. There is nothing progressive about being pig-headed and refusing to admit a mistake. And I think if you look at the present state of the world it's pretty plain that humanity has been making some big mistake. We're on the wrong road. And if that is so we must go back. Going back is the quickest way on.   



I think about lot of people look at how the world is and want to return to simple, community based towns where we all work together. The whole world is like a production line and it doesn't have to be. We simply don't have to produce even half of all that is produced now including things as well as food.

Those farming systems devastate wildlife and make entire fields lifeless plots full of round-up.  It is keeping us alive but at a great cost to the whole world.


If I could I would garden and work with my hands until I collapse. Of course lots of people were born in cities and our worldviews are drastically different as a result


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: hidingbush]
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That would lead to mass starvation. We are past a point where we can return to the old ways.

What we can do is adopt better farming practices to reduce impact.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
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Now consider though, if people grew food in their yards instead of grass... if more people raised chickens and cows and goats etc.

Then so much of our food is right out there instead of in a grocery store. And nature would have breathing room. So yes it does take a lot of rethinking.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
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Agriculture and feudalism are inventions of a more recent time, sacrificing humans has been the hottest thing of the past 100 years.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: hidingbush]
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Yeah that's what I'm talking about. Like having farms on top of apartment buildings. You don't have to fuck up the Earth just because there are so many people on it.

People act like there is nothing that can be done except to burn down everything and start over again. There are literally infinite solutions if you're willing to do the work and spend the money.

Waiting for nuclear fusion to get stable enough to get a rollout. And then all of our current problems are gonna seem so inconsequential.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
BeefExtreme said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
Anarchy is fun but it doesn't build a society.



worked for 300,000
years before "systems"
poisoned the planet.



Didn't they used to eat babies to guarantee like a good harvest and stuff back then.

Systems are good.



Dude.. good thing we don't do that anymore! fucking EPSTEIN FILES???

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme]
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:ohyou:
I've been waiting on that good crop.

Uk are doing a pretty good job of working through that actually.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
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GenesisCorrupted said:
:ohyou:
I've been waiting on that good crop.



:yields:

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 1
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:yields::rush::yields:


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 3
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Now they do it strictly for pleasure instead of "for the crops."

:tripnoob:


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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Epstein files. UK grooming and rape gangs. Child brides in the name of Allah. Murderers set free because, sorry you had a rough life.

In the meantime say something that hurts someone’s feelings online and you spend time in jail or prison.

Say what you want but the world is upside down. Even basic morals are out the window. Hell, I’ll just take the golden rule right now and vengeance on those who can’t respect that.

Give me the 42 Principles of Ma’at just to forgo any current religious ties.

Something. Anything.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: 1NFIN8] * 1
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A reward for achievement has the potential to undermine the very systems that lead to success.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 1
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Americans already pay enough money that they've already essentially socialized medicine. We just have people that stand between us and our medical care that we are already paying for and ask us to pay them first.

If we got rid of all of the middle men and we just got the medical care that we are already paying for. This country would immediately stop being so stupid and shitty.

I didn't have to burn down the world to accomplish that either we just need to stop letting insurance companies kill people for money.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
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Man, I need a righteous macro.

So does the world.


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The answer to your question is almost always 42
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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Agar Wedge] * 1
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Agar Wedge said:
I confess that I poked myself in the hand with a scalpel harvesting this morning(hardly did anything), then dropped the scalpel and it went clean through my flipflop, sticking handle up. Half a cm over woulda been a different story :uhoh: got lucky :hehehe:



Whoa! Dodged a double whammy. Terror in the lab. Peace to you, friend!


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 3
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GenesisCorrupted said:
We have systems like irrigation and crop rotation now. We don't need to sacrifice babies.




Oh, don't worry, our water management systems DEFINITELY sacrifice babies.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 2
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B Traven said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
We have systems like irrigation and crop rotation now. We don't need to sacrifice babies.




Oh, don't worry, our water management systems DEFINITELY sacrifice babies.



I was wondering how protein water came about.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 6
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re
GenesisCorrupted said:
We have systems like irrigation and crop rotation now. We don't need to sacrifice babies.

We don't need to return to feudalism and caves to move forward as a species. That's going backwards.



how much irrigating have you done? ive done a lot. my whole life.  ive spent thousands of hours sitting on a tractor, thinking. 

the west is drying and burning up and this year, the west is in deep shit bud. agriculture wasnt invented by a starving person the same as a parachute wasn't invented by a person falling out of an airplane. 

the system of which you speak is literally the cause of its own demise and theres logically irrefutable proof of it.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme]
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So we should stop letting foreign countries pump our ground water and send it overseas. We should have sustainable farming and agricultural practices instead of letting people suck up as much water out of the river as they want to.

What you're proposing is a massive extinction event.
Which I'm sure would work. Seemed to work great for Thanos. But we need actual solutions that could potentially save peoples lives and not kill everyone in the process of change.

I've worked at a sod farm as head irrigator and I've installed a French drain system before.
The second one was worse than the first one but the first one was harder on my back than the second one.
Which basically ruined my hands for months.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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The sod farm was making all of their irrigation system sprinklers wrong.
I probably have collectively saved that place thousands of dollars if they are still doing it the way I taught them.

They wouldn't balance them properly so everything was off balance by about 20 pounds to a side. Which would cause all of the pipes to lean. Which collectively cost thousands of dollars in broken pipes and gaskets.

I showed them how while building these you could balance them properly first. That way they would roll and not have weight pushed to a side.

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