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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 1
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AstroSporeFiend said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
Mike Patton is touring with Tomahawk this year. Melvins are along for the ride. Tomahawk and Melvins in small venues. This is turning out to be a great year for shows. Tickets go on pre-sale Wednesday.


Well, since God hates a coward, I’d better go to that show! Too bad Steve Albini died and won’t be with them. I’m  stoked about that tour. Thanks for the heads up, Gil!


Been wanting to see one of mike patton's bands. Mr. Bungle would be top on that list but I haven't been able to make it to any. This one will be possible for me. Bonus for seeing melvins again. What is a band that you would like to see but haven't been able to see?

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 3
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This band from Guadalajara is absolutely bonkers. I'd never heard of them when I randomly happened to see them live. It was pretty much exactly like this video, except with MORE smoke and live effects, and they also appeared to pull off their sound without any pedals or autotune. The funniest thing is how they use these looped tracks but then have a live and absolutely sick drummer. They kinda blow all those aging pop-punk bands in the same black jeans and T-shirts out of the water, in my view.

Anyway, when you mentioned Mr. Bungle, it reminded me of them. I guess they did some tour dates with Mr. Bungle recently, I wss stoked to see that Mike Patton is gassing them up.


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Edited by B Traven (02/23/26 10:04 PM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 2
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Gil, I can’t seem to catch Iron Chic live. Been wanting to see them for a bit but can’t seem to line it up. That’s the one that pops in my head most recently. Also Twin Tribes peak my interest, kind of joy division-esque. Maybe a bit more gothy. I also want to catch Old Crow Medicine Show if they ever come my way. Maybe PJ Harvey if she’s even still touring. Oh, I’ve never seen Sick of it All live and I hate that, so definitely them.

B, that band is pretty good, dude! Thanks for that. Definitely checking more of that out.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 2
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B Traven said:
Anyway, when you mentioned Mr. Bungle, it reminded me of them. I guess they did some tour dates with Mr. Bungle recently, I wss stoked to see that Mike Patton is gassing them up.


That dude is a lightning rod. He ignites almost any band he touches.  Saw him when toured with Dillinger Escape Plan and it was fucking awesome.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 1
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tree frog said:
I watched a Benn Jordan video recently about data center noise pollution.



His video on anti-gov gadgets is great


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 2
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tree frog said:
Churpee Choozle said:
I hope you're right.

If you're ever in Europe, try to visit Exarcheia in Athens. You'll probably love it. I once went there as a staunch commie and came out an anarchist. Great place


I confess, I flirted with the tankies.  But came back around to the circle A after learning more history.


I was so tankie that I travelled the battlefields where ELAS and DSE had fought the nazis and the Greek state. Arrived in Athens and ended up in a huge squat in Exarcheia. Was bluntly corrected by a few young comrades, stayed for a while, went to the streets side to side with these people. As stated, I eventually came out an anarchist.

The people there were inspirational. Fierce women, a lot of international volunteers, everybody was well-versed in theory and praxis.

Edit: interesting story, nice ending too. I just wanted to get out to my new job and realized I was wearing a T-shirt that's a giant PKK flag. Ahem. So yeah. So much for not being a tankie anymore.

Oh and Pig, you're right. I spent years in the Communist Party, they'd much rather fuck up one 'on our side' than go out and confront the real assholes of this world.


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Edited by Churpee Choozle (02/24/26 02:02 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Generic]
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Generic said:
Churpee Choozle said:
Feels weird to admit it, but I don't have iso in the house. At all. Used it once for an extraction, but it's so damn toxic, went back to food grade 96% ethanol. Never used it for shrooms. In the past I used 'bio lamp fuel' (= 85% ethanol). Never sprayed that either.



I've been going through a lot of ISO, just to wipe down everything ritually as i put it in front of my flow hood, after i wipe down the working surface and my gloves. 

I don't get ISO on my skin, but I'm breathing in a lot of the fumes.  How toxic is it in that form?  I've read it is especially toxic to the optical nerve or something like that? 

Ethanol would be ideal, but so expensive... I think my first step would be to cut down on the amount of alcohol I use to wipe things down with my clean technique - like, i wipe down every quart jar even though they've just been sterilized... in an AA sterilizer that still holds a little bit of pressure (probably unnecessary, but it's too big to open in front of the clean flow.)  I also wipe down jars that come out of a Presto PC, but that intakes unfiltered air so that seems more necessary. I'm afraid of learning the hard way through contamination... 

or maybe it's just worth the Ethanol vs IPA, because i do want to respect my body through this.


:cantlookaway:

It isn't. It's very toxic when ingested, and I used it for extractions.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 3
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
Mike Patton is touring with Tomahawk this year. Melvins are along for the ride. Tomahawk and Melvins in small venues. This is turning out to be a great year for shows. Tickets go on pre-sale Wednesday.



You want it all, but you can't have it...


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: kingboomer] * 2
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I have a water bottle with a flip-sippy lid that I use for my iso, I've just been buying the 70% iso from the pharmacy. I go through it pretty slowly, as it's just a splash on my gloves and a light wipe-down of donor jar lids. And I guess a quick wipe-down ofthe scalpel at the outset. I don't wipe down the stuff that just came from the PC. It's true that the Presto sucks in a little "dirty" air during cool-down, but all my jar lids have their little tinfoil hats on them in the PC, so I don't sweat it too much.

I figure there's probably a lot of people splashing that shit on their skin for whatever reasons and going through thise little bottles 20 times faster than I am, so I don’t worry too much about the health consequences. There's dozens of other things I do (or don't do) that'll surely kill me first.

But I do wonder about all of it, really. I used to spray my SAB down with fucking LYSOL 🤮. Now I just use water with a few drops of dish soap in it. Some people don't spray it at all. I try to use a new set of latex gloves every time I do a SAB session. Some people don't use gloves at all. The principle of both SAB work and flowhood work is the control of particulates in the air. That's it. Maybe it's time to step out on a limb and ditch even more consumables. Stop acting like that's the same as free-climbing the Taipei 101 tower. Or mayge that's EXACTLY what it's like: I saw an interview with Alex Honnold where he basically pointed out that climbing a building like that is child's play compared to most rock climbing- you don't want to fuck up of course, but everything is completely standardized and you're literally just pulling yourself up from one floor to the next on super straightforward holds while the wind is mostly either blocked by the building or pushing you INTO it.

I ain't giving this up anytime soon, though:



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ACAB  🖕🧊


Edited by B Traven (02/24/26 10:32 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven]
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B proudly carrying the alcohol torch!


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: 1NFIN8] * 2
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I gave up on the tin-foil hats over jars years ago... that was a leap of faith that I am so happy with.  I Simply don't use them and things don't dry out.  less time and trash.  Although I guess I wipe them down with IPA.  I guess I'm so afraid of contaminations that even though I have a huge flow hood, I only transfer to 4 quart jars at a time so as to not have one jar in front of the other's flow of clean air, so I think i'll try just not wiping down some jars here soon.

I use 9-mil thick gloves so I can re-use them over 10-15 times before they tear.

I re-use my XLS-A spawn bags.  (but I don't use them to fruit in, just for spawning to other things like buckets or patches outdoors)  lately i've been first using the bags with sawdust spawn (which is very gentle on the bags and never pokes holes), then when I need to sterilize wood chips, re-using those used sawdust spawn bags for that.  though after I sterilize wood chips they're often compromised and become trash can liners (they fit a re-used rectangular plastic jug I cut the top off of and use as a trash can, although that's trivial, because I don't fill up a trash can very fast.)

and @treefrog, thanks for that video, has me re-thinking the internet

edit:  for those thinking of re-using spawn bags, just be careful what kind of closures you use.  obviously don't use a heat sealer/impulse sealer, and don't use zip ties... not because they're trashy (they are!) but because they have sharp corners and can poke and rip holes in the bag where you close it.  Use some sort of covered twist-tie, or get creative, i use metal wire (the kind used in concrete form making or w/e at the hardware store, just twist the ends in on themselves so they don't poke holes in the bag while handling, or in the neighboring bags)  or even better, re-use scrap wire, whatever you can get your hands on without buying something.

Edited by Generic (02/24/26 10:58 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 2
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
K
AstroSporeFiend said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
Mike Patton is touring with Tomahawk this year. Melvins are along for the ride. Tomahawk and Melvins in small venues. This is turning out to be a great year for shows. Tickets go on pre-sale Wednesday.


Well, since God hates a coward, I’d better go to that show! Too bad Steve Albini died and won’t be with them. I’m  stoked about that tour. Thanks for the heads up, Gil!


Been wanting to see one of mike patton's bands. Mr. Bungle would be top on that list but I haven't been able to make it to any. This one will be possible for me. Bonus for seeing melvins again. What is a band that you would like to see but haven't been able to see?


I'm absolutely getting tickets for this in the morning. They're here on a Saturday not long after my birthday, gonna be a blast.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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Churpee Choozle said:
tree frog said:
Churpee Choozle said:
I hope you're right.

If you're ever in Europe, try to visit Exarcheia in Athens. You'll probably love it. I once went there as a staunch commie and came out an anarchist. Great place


I confess, I flirted with the tankies.  But came back around to the circle A after learning more history.


I was so tankie that I travelled the battlefields where ELAS and DSE had fought the nazis and the Greek state. Arrived in Athens and ended up in a huge squat in Exarcheia. Was bluntly corrected by a few young comrades, stayed for a while, went to the streets side to side with these people. As stated, I eventually came out an anarchist.

The people there were inspirational. Fierce women, a lot of international volunteers, everybody was well-versed in theory and praxis.

Edit: interesting story, nice ending too. I just wanted to get out to my new job and realized I was wearing a T-shirt that's a giant PKK flag. Ahem. So yeah. So much for not being a tankie anymore.

Oh and Pig, you're right. I spent years in the Communist Party, they'd much rather fuck up one 'on our side' than go out and confront the real assholes of this world.


I’m also not going to sit here and pretend that anarchism doesn’t collapse into a circular firing squad when someone or other’s polycule collapses.  Like, reliably throughout history.  Dig deep enough into Japanese anarchism and you find out the whole thing collapsed because of a failed polycule and the resulting snitching 😂

Don’t get me wrong, I’m still an anarchist, but I’m old enough to have seen enough potential revolutions eat their own instead of the rich.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy]
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In case you wanted more info on that specific instance.

https://podme.com/no/episode/749559/?page=165


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy] * 3
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Y'all, I just want to go to a metal show again and get in the mosh pit.

Nowadays lots of folks will just stand there and listen to the music.  As though it isn't filling them with energy and driving them to bump into sweaty dudes in a circle.

A proper mosh pit is where you fall down and folks pick your ass back up.  I have been punched in the side of the head before and it nearly ruined my night.  Thank god for friends being there to redirect me.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: hidingbush] * 5
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hidingbush said:
As though it isn't filling them with energy and driving them to bump into sweaty dudes in a circle.


:circlejerk:


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New to cultivation or the shroomery?  Observe the hitchhiker's guide

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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy]
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:rofl:

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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Anarchy is fun but it doesn't build a society.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Ah yes, I'd wager that polyamory is more explosive in itself than Stalinists, Anarchists and Trotskists defending the same line.

I am a proud anarchist and I believe in total liberation. But years of experience have eroded my belief in any revolution. I like what the comrades in Rojava are doing. Fitted in well with the crowd in Exarcheia. But in the end, most commies I know are totally out of touch with working class reality. And most anarchists I know are dangerously out of touch with 'working at all' and sober people.

Or let me put it this way. If we block a fascist demo nowadays, the bystanders turn against us, because the antifa is perceived as a larger threat than the guys who'd like to reopen the Concentration Camps. If there will be a revolution, it will be the wrong one.


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Fight law and order


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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In my opinion complete freedom leads to the mad max scenario almost every single time.

Were you just have feudalism and Lord's have  gangs  roaming & murdering the weak and taking what they want.

That sounds like shit to me. I like systems.


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