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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: hellofresh] * 2
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hellofresh said:
You are a sweet heart.

Lil G developed a chicken allergy. He has not enjoyed the change. He's figured out new and innovative ways to consume. Three times this week. I think he needs allergy shot. Unit P is demented and losing herself even more. 🌊🐇 Is showing her age, I think her kidneys are sleepy and so is she. As long as she's comfortable. Lf is sad about it all; they sleep all day.

:catfrog:

Anyway fuck em 🖕 maybe they should eat some venison. Mushroom leather. Hope you feel back to normal soon.


Thanks :heart:  Sorry to hear yours are going through it.  I've had a lot of cats I've felt strong connections with.  One lived to be 18 and could no longer clean herself at the end because she'd lost so many teeth. 

She has also given me a lot of guidance over the years after she passed.  Wise old momma cat.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Sounds like a solid plan. You’ve got this figured out.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 2
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My wife sees a black cat in her periphery every time she uses psychedelics! Like a spirit guide of sorts. Freaking crazy stuff.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 3
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The cat I mentioned is black, she visits me in my sleep sometimes :smile: 

*self redacted*

I guess I relate to myself and the collective unconscious quite a bit through animals.  (Glances at her screen name)  :shrug:


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

Edited by tree frog (02/20/26 02:30 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 2
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:lol: Maybe you both see the same cat! That’s would be pretty cool, actually. She told me she’s seen it since her first acid trip, which was a while before I knew her. On mdma, the cat was there. The few times she’s eaten cubes, black cat. I’m kind of jealous, actually. So far nothing like that has happened to me. I might be frightened if I had a snake, though. But, even worse, with my luck it would be a slug or a roach. :rofl:

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 1
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I've had the creepy crawlies of the earth trip.  I value that experience a lot but it was quite difficult tbh.  Terrance McKenna style.  Large dose in the dark.  Poor integration at first due to confusion on the comedown, but it has stuck with me over the years.

The guides started showing up after.  But the old cat has been with me much longer in dreams.  Granted, I knew her a long time before she passed away, so she left quite an impression.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog]
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If you habitually kill snakes, you're not a vegan by the standards of every vegan I know... Just sayin

Edit: Read again: I lumped the friends and the snake hunter. So ot should be: if you support killing snakes... My bad


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Fight law and order


Species grown so far

Edited by Churpee Choozle (02/20/26 06:47 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 4
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I'm sorry your friends were insensitive TF. As someone who loves animals I don't like hearing about them being killed either.

Edit: I realize I was probably rehashing the exact conversation and that not helpful

I had a roommate who bought a ball python and abandoned it at my house when he moved out after a year. I found it a good home. Honestly, 99% of people have no business owning snakes. They dont know what they're getting into and don't understand how to give the creature what it needs for a fulfilled life. Florida is a direct result of people like that


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I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (02/20/26 06:11 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Hey T-F bubba...

Sounds like you kept yourself in check pretty well to me, your "tone" doesn't matter if you're polite and state yourself clearly without any animosity - which is exactly what it sounds like you did. You're a sweetheart though for having those conflicting emotions too - your empathy runs deep(er than most).

:acidcat: Fucking proud of you for speaking up for those that have no voice - regardless of your method. I'm nobody - but I'm proud of you as a human <3


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 3
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:whathesaid:

Most people shouldn't be fiddling with exotic pets. They don't have the know-how, or the stamina to sit out the thing they themselves started. And most animals just have no place in a regular home. That something doesn't die, doesn't mean it's living the life it should.

I do not agree with the notion of 'invasive species' however, or it shoild fully include ourselves. If it doesn't, us killing animals because they cause trouble is just dumb speciesism. We fuck up ecosystems, we dump whatever, wherever. We pollute, poison, rape and destroy. We should shoot us. Instead, we fuck up our environment and say: there, behind the fence, that reserve, that's nature. We kill everything that doesn't belong there. Because we know a higher truth than everyone else so we get to judge over life and death.

We've put enough in reserves already. And killed those that didn't comply. It's hypocritical, egocentric and shows once again that we always try to resolve everything with violence, preferably violence against defenseless beings. If people are so keen on violence, let them take out big guys instead of rats or snakes or lobsters.

And if you insist on not having animals suffer for your food, then you shouldn't go out to kill animals for other things you perceive as your needs, or right, or just cause. We always know we're right, and justified, it's one of the built-in flaws of being human.

Nothing against you personally Puff, it's just something that annoys the crap out of me. This goddamn playing god over everything.


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 3
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If you want to discuss it, I'm happy to take it to DMs. I do view things differently than you. No animosity either, just a different viewpoint.


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I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 5
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
If you want to discuss it, I'm happy to take it to DMs. I do view things differently than you. No animosity either, just a different viewpoint.


:cookiemonster:

You're exactly the reason I love the shroomery. Maturity is most definitely the coolest thing to have in today's society.

I'm off out to get supplies for the wedge thing. Baggies aren't widely available here so I'm taking the cat on an extended walk

Catch you on the flip side.


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Be lucky, may light walk with you.





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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: conz0r] * 2
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Churpee Choozle said:
:whathesaid:

Most people shouldn't be fiddling with exotic pets. They don't have the know-how, or the stamina to sit out the thing they themselves started. And most animals just have no place in a regular home. That something doesn't die, doesn't mean it's living the life it should.

I do not agree with the notion of 'invasive species' however, or it shoild fully include ourselves. If it doesn't, us killing animals because they cause trouble is just dumb speciesism. We fuck up ecosystems, we dump whatever, wherever. We pollute, poison, rape and destroy. We should shoot us. Instead, we fuck up our environment and say: there, behind the fence, that reserve, that's nature. We kill everything that doesn't belong there. Because we know a higher truth than everyone else so we get to judge over life and death.



Invasive species are certainly a thing, and while it may be an unsavory truth that their deaths would cause more good than harm, it is still a truth.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 4
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Churpee Choozle said:
:whathesaid:



We kill everything that doesn't belong there. Because we know a higher truth than everyone else so we get to judge over life and death.



Genesis 3:11–17:  "Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"

it seems rellevant to the discussiont that immediately after eve eats from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, god curses the serpent. 

"dust you shall eat".  and god dethroned the serpent and made him slither on the ground.

Genesis 3:22: "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil."

you guys know in not "religious" in the strict sense of the word, ive just studied religion and the historic/prehistoric origins of the story.

ive come back to this discussion of animism again and again in this thread and here we are once again, talking about good and evil. of abel and cain.





the metaphor is simple and ancient.  at some point, humans decided they knew right from wrong like the gods do:

when the lion kills a gazelle i imagine that any human who witnessed it couldnt help but feel a shred of empathy.  sure thats wrong, right? what a brutal way to die, but then.. i wonder who the first human was who witnessed the lions cubs starve to death.  theyre really cute no?

it was never for us or any other animal on the planet to assume we understand which scenario is right or wrong. 

the tree of knowledge grows alongside the tree of life "in the midst" of the garden of eden and life everlasting was its promise but man chose knowledge, and lost access to its fruit. 

the essence of the the metaphor in its entirety is that there is not good and evil.  its a human arrogance and our own invention.  asserting the vanity of our own knowledge is exactly why our culture "will surely die".  again, there is no good or evil.  killing snakes isnt inherently "evil", its the assumption that its the right thing to do that isnt *sustainable*.

and thats animism, my friends.  thats blasphemy, and thats "true religion", and in fact, the oldest relgion on earth predating even hinduism but a vast 296,500 YEARS approximately.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (02/20/26 08:24 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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tf im sorry your friends made you feel lonely like that.  i get similarly pissed off when people talk about killing cats because "they kill birds".  its narrow minded as fuck and its once again, Cain, Eves first born son, assuming he knows what gods know.  its ancient arrogance and vanity. 

i always speak the gospel of blasphemy wherever i find Cain, and wherever i have been lucky enough to meet Abel, I always listen.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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see also rules 10, and 11 of the satantic rules of the earth:

10: Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

interpret to suit


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Edited by BeefExtreme (02/20/26 08:28 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 2
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Have you tried using "I feel statements" to your friend? "'I feel' statements (or I-messages) are communication tools used to express personal emotions, needs, and perceptions without blaming, accusing, or triggering defensiveness in others."

A year ago, I was going through something similar with a coworker. My therapist helped me formulate a few strong "I feel statements". Totally diffused the situation. They are like a superpower. They can feel formulaic at first; however, the format makes it hard for the other person to become defensive.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: NotImlay]
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i learned that in grade school and it serves me still. 

"i feel lonely" id usually enough for an emotionally intelligent friend to realize that what theyre doing or saying is harmful.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Churpee Choozle said:
I do not agree with the notion of 'invasive species' however, or it shoild fully include ourselves. If it doesn't, us killing animals because they cause trouble is just dumb speciesism. We fuck up ecosystems, we dump whatever, wherever. We pollute, poison, rape and destroy. We should shoot us. Instead, we fuck up our environment and say: there, behind the fence, that reserve, that's nature. We kill everything that doesn't belong there. Because we know a higher truth than everyone else so we get to judge over life and death.


Yeah, this was my point about white settlers.  It wasn't guilt but more like, if killing invasive species is right because of how they hurt ecosystems, then it follows that every white person in Florida should be on the invasive species list.

NotImlay said:
Have you tried using "I feel statements" to your friend? "'I feel' statements (or I-messages) are communication tools used to express personal emotions, needs, and perceptions without blaming, accusing, or triggering defensiveness in others."



I messaged everyone last night and said I'm sorry that was more aggressive than it needed to be.  I'm not comfortable with talking about animals being made into jewelry or trophies and could have stated that more clearly last night (or something to that effect).


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: tree frog] * 5
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
I'm sorry your friends were insensitive TF. As someone who loves animals I don't like hearing about them being killed either.

Edit: I realize I was probably rehashing the exact conversation and that not helpful

I had a roommate who bought a ball python and abandoned it at my house when he moved out after a year. I found it a good home. Honestly, 99% of people have no business owning snakes. They dont know what they're getting into and don't understand how to give the creature what it needs for a fulfilled life. Florida is a direct result of people like that


Yeah, I kept a ribbon snake and frogs as a kid.  I don't keep them anymore because they're difficult to care for.  The snake quit eating as soon as I got her home from the pet store.  The frogs would escape and I'd find them later dried out.

Now I'm content hearing the frogs singing outside when the weather is right.  Free and living their froggy lives.


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And if I only could
I'd make a deal with God
And I'd get him to swap our places
I'd be running up that road
Be running up that hill
With no problems

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