1NFIN8 said:

I cannot express how grateful I am to have never felt the opiate pull. I’ve had serious surgeries and needed the meds and somehow had zero attraction. I still have a bottle full of pills from 6 years ago. 🙏🏼

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yah im the same. although after i shattered my leg i was popping pills and drinking heavily but one day i was like 'bleh i feel like shit' and stopped taking the pills. still drank tho

i still got my surgery pills. i also still have my parents cancer/pain pills. no desire to use them what so ever.

one time i took one of my dads 2mg dilaudid pills and i seriously thought i OD'd i was dead numb all over it was insane. my dad use to take 4 of those a day.

madness.

KlarnEvil9 said:

My gf and I decided we would save heroin for terminal illness. She's never tried it, I've only had it once. A friend had a little, we snorted some, it was awesome but I was glad I didn't know where to get more.

Confession - I want some PCP. Got to try it once in college, a guy from NYC came back after Xmas with a tiny bit of red devil. Fucking amazing high. I don't want to have access to it, but I'd grab a couple of bags to have around for special occasions if I could.

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For sure.. this is absolutely the way I would want to go out. If I'm sick and dying and it's not reversible or if I ever get in an accident and become a vegetable or something..

don't pull the plug or whatever.

Get some grade a heroin or I guess it's fentanyl nowadays. And  shoot me into oblivion. End it that way. I've already made my wife promise.



I'm currently going on 13 years clean from it. I was a smart/safe user though.
Or shall I say responsible. responsible  enough to never overdose or anything like that.

Once fentanyl hit the scene though. it's  it became impossible to use responsibly. My son being born a few years later just cemented it all in for me..

Good luck to everybody struggling with opiates and Good job to everybody that got away from it. It really is the best thing in the world.  Unfortunately.

KlarnEvil9 said:

I've used plenty of other hard drugs, often problematically, but something about heroin always kinda scared me. Probably a good thing. But honestly, after 4+ years on pain meds, opiates hold little appeal for me anymore. That may change in the future, but I'm good with it for now.

I do tend to take ketamine and cocaine more than I should. But I space out my purchases to be responsible and stuff.

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AstroSporeFiend said:

I remember doctors pushing opiates for everything. When I would fuck something up the docs would give me the Vicodin, percs, whatever. I’d take them for a few days and then feel like shit. I’ve just never liked them.

I used to kinda date this chick that was on a lot of prescribed opiates and when she would run dry, she would lose her fucking mind! That solidified my desire to not want to fuck with them. But my question now is what do we use medically for severe pain? It kind of puts us in a bind.

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AstroSporeFiend said:

I remember doctors pushing opiates for everything. When I would fuck something up the docs would give me the Vicodin, percs, whatever. I’d take them for a few days and then feel like shit. I’ve just never liked them.

I used to kinda date this chick that was on a lot of prescribed opiates and when she would run dry, she would lose her fucking mind! That solidified my desire to not want to fuck with them. But my question now is what do we use medically for severe pain? It kind of puts us in a bind.

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callmehippie said:

KlarnEvil9 said:

My gf and I decided we would save heroin for terminal illness. She's never tried it, I've only had it once. A friend had a little, we snorted some, it was awesome but I was glad I didn't know where to get more.

Confession - I want some PCP. Got to try it once in college, a guy from NYC came back after Xmas with a tiny bit of red devil. Fucking amazing high. I don't want to have access to it, but I'd grab a couple of bags to have around for special occasions if I could.

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For sure.. this is absolutely the way I would want to go out. If I'm sick and dying and it's not reversible or if I ever get in an accident and become a vegetable or something..

don't pull the plug or whatever.

Get some grade a heroin or I guess it's fentanyl nowadays. And  shoot me into oblivion. End it that way. I've already made my wife promise.



I'm currently going on 13 years clean from it. I was a smart/safe user though.
Or shall I say responsible. responsible  enough to never overdose or anything like that.

Once fentanyl hit the scene though. it's  it became impossible to use responsibly. My son being born a few years later just cemented it all in for me..

Good luck to everybody struggling with opiates and Good job to everybody that got away from it. It really is the best thing in the world.  Unfortunately.

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1NFIN8 said:

I cannot express how grateful I am to have never felt the opiate pull. I’ve had serious surgeries and needed the meds and somehow had zero attraction. I still have a bottle full of pills from 6 years ago. 🙏🏼

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My man it's a case of the trauma load you carry I think that tips the scales towards addiction with a lot of these things.

Doesn't mean you've had a peachy life! It could mean anything. Maybe your parents instilled a solid sense of self, maybe you moved school a lot and developed your morals early to hold onto your character, maybe you saw a cousin at thanksgiving dinners always looking like shit and your uncle would say "it's the dang nabit' drugs!".

Whatever it is you carry it with you and it shines bright. A commodity more valuable than jewels or titties!

BeefExtreme said:

Mr Piggy said:

Real friends keister drugs for their pals.

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man ive put all
KINDS of drugs in capsules and just put em in a vitamin bottle and then in my carry on bag.  actually, the personal
bag? thata way i can pop one mid flight. 

tactical advantaaaaaaage

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conz0r said:

AstroSporeFiend said:

I remember doctors pushing opiates for everything. When I would fuck something up the docs would give me the Vicodin, percs, whatever. I’d take them for a few days and then feel like shit. I’ve just never liked them.

I used to kinda date this chick that was on a lot of prescribed opiates and when she would run dry, she would lose her fucking mind! That solidified my desire to not want to fuck with them. But my question now is what do we use medically for severe pain? It kind of puts us in a bind.

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I would say honestly... I think things like new forms of ketamine and deep meditation classes or some kinda psychedelic therapy to help people come to terms with and manage the pain.

It's not perfect but that's where I'd start for sure. Next stop would be the Amazon and Germany to gather the great chemists and plants of the world.

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cronicr said:

I will also say I'm a complete urban fucking Indian , i didn't grow up on a reserve I grew up in town mostly what my town calls the ghetto, I was baptized but never did church , never did the family dance practices or native cultural stuff , me and my brother's just grew up taking the world for what it is , elders are elders friends are family and breaking bread is more important than breaking ties , we grew very familiar with lots of folks , gurdalh sing Maan was a Sikh who lived beside us for years I spent a lot of time with him learning about Sikhs and the struggles but he had a Hindu daughter in law who also taught us alot , neighbor was a grumpy ass old German but he put up with our shit everyday and still brought weird ass candy on Christmas, and was at every funeral until he died , I grew up so ignorant to racism because honestly...I was surrounded by the complete opposite, I was at funerals with Germans Muslims Hindus siks natives and Christians in the same building
Through hell n high water ...my children will experience this
One thing I've always loved about this place ...race color gender age preferences ect never meant a fucking thing

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Sounds like the old ways. A lot of old communities live by a similar creed all over the world. Small polish villages are the same, small rural french areas too.

Growing up around a lot of Sikhs and Hindus was amazing imo. The remnants of old world wisdom clinging on.

If you're part Indian you have strong blood. A quality you can't purchase friend. Value it, but mind your responsibility! As one strong blooded you're obliged to heed the advice/directions of nature/the universe.

I'm not tryna be preachy I hope it doesn't comes across like that. When I say things like that it doesn't come from my head or from me at all it feels like.

My own blood is danish, ice blue eyes and never broke a bone. My heritage is fucked too lol... My great uncle and great grandfather were danish nazi officers that stole a boat in 1945 and sailed to Scotland to hide. Whoopee!

cronicr said:

Had the weirdest couple of days lol , did two funerals back to back ,my moms on Monday, my cousin had hers the day after. Moms funeral was beautiful what I'm used to ,very personal very traditional as my mom was a native  but also a princess to our tribe so everything was very huge but very personal and in my world very expected, casket ...hall filled with family ,elders spoke talking about the importance of forgiveness the importance of family and how blood don't define anything , how the people who hugged you tight in those moments were just as important as your little brother ect , beautiful as always hugs laughs and tears followed by a luncheon which was my cousin's slow roasted beef , aunties famous turkey they made a shitload of soup sammiches n shit, my girlfriend made like 8 fucking pies that were served on disposable soup.cup lids 😆
My cousin was from my dad's side , he's white and we have an absolutely beautiful side of the family there  but very Catholic or Christian  , so the day after moms funeral we drove a few hours to be with them where we had the service at a legion , beautiful spot , she'd been cremated soore a celebration of life type thing but was also beautiful but also a complete 180 of what I just did the day prior for my mom , some dude named Cecil got up on the mic and read scriptures for a bit , followed by a quick break for coffee tea and some food ...but it was all ordered in and catered , to my understanding this is to relieve any stress from the family and it was great food , after food they said we were to hear personal stories, but again Cecil stood up and read on behalf of my cousin's friends , but I will say he did an amazing job , I didn't think too much of any of it but I was ready to leave and my aunties from my dad's side pulled me aside have me a huge hug , and they said "I love u but I also want to say I think the way mom went should be the way we do.tnimgs going forward" asked.them.what they meant , keep in mind my aunt is 69 my other is 74 ,  they've been doing this type of funeral their whole life but they said when their time comes they want that personal touch , the shitty home cooked food , the guy who can't afford a suit getting up and telling the story of when you were fucked up at the bar and people laughing in the middle of the service , one aunt said she devoted her life to to church but she wants her last hour being remembered any fucking way the family wants 😂
I've lost a few people on my dad's side ...but they're from.the east coast , I've lost almost everyone on mom's side so to see the difference was weird but both beautiful in their own right

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Hey brother...

Happy to read a good attitude off you. We won't do  "Be strong" and all that.

Cheers to a good mother and beautiful service

Regardless of religion this is not our first or last step within this reality - Fact.