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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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True Dat.


But also.  Regardless of if her music is shitty or not.  she's still talented and therefore I'll still give her my respect.

I dont feel the same way about a computer.





Ps. Not that talent is necessary these days. Lol  Depending on the genre.  Ahem..most of the new era mainstream garbage rap.👀



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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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I would argue she is not very talented. She’s the typical formulaic pop star who likely doesn’t write her own songs, has very little substance to her music, and is mostly just a face (and boobs) for the record companies to prop up droning bubblegum music. I will say, in her defense, that it’s not her fault. If people buy her music, then so be it.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: callmehippie] * 6
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I feel like shit and am fucking grumpy, feel free to skip

Hi I'm Churp and I'm just full-on anti AI.

Fossil? Luddite? I had the same thing against social media, everyone around me said I was crazy. Grumpy Green anarchist who couldn't move with the times. Now they forbid their kids to use it and complain about Mark and Elon all day. A friend of mine went into actual rehab because she was sucked into FB to the point she couldn't exit.

The only thing I see people around me use AI for is to objectify women even more than before, pretend to have creative skills - and resolve 'problems' that shouldn't even exist for anyone who knows how to write a paper / article / any other text.

Nothing against any of you, especially you, 1NF1N8. If it makes you guys happier, more power to you. But I just see another fancy way of destroying our one planet, sold to us a great leap forward.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 4
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AstroSporeFiend said:
The only decent cops I’ve ever met were former cops, who either quit after a couple years because of the bullshit, or were forced out because they wouldn’t cover up the shenanigans inside the system. 

Ive been arrested for literally nothing a couple times. Both times I’ve been forced to hire an attorney and before any kind of trial the judge had tossed the cases. Why wasn’t the state forced to pay for my attorney fees when it was solely a result of dumb cops?


"Chat gpt, make me a Katy parry song that doesn't suck."

Chat gpt crashes....


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 4
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i dont really think theres much harm with certain aspects of ai.  a simple search etc.  the issue i have with it is that the reliance and absuse.

college students obtaining degrees without actually learning things. 

now ai tools being used to create images and videos of women and children in sexual acts.  this is abuse.

my gf had a guy try to cheat a job interview having chatgtp answer the questions he was being asked.  they analyzed the video and saw his eyes moving to read.

i also have this issue of it granting instant access to talent and skill.  sure making an avatar is cute and ultimately victimless, but consider the fact that corporations are using it to bypass paying artists, musicians, consultants, estimators, technicians and literally now millions of trained humans. 

ie see google/amazon/oracle rolling layoffs.

then theres the environmental impact.  anyone intimately involved in agriculture understands the dire situation we have with water.  check out the book "the water knife".  its a fictional dystopian novel about what happens when we actually run out of water, and its actually happening in real time, and yet, we are actively saying this is fine every time we make a cute avatar using ai tools.

we are actively nodding our heads to rolling layoffs and exploitation of environment.  we are wholesale approving of suffering.


ya i think theres a logical point many of you have made: well the internal combustion engine disenfranchised a lot of people too.  the lantern lighter example thurman used.

are we incapable of developing that line of logic further and asking the simple question of "is it worth it?"

my answer is invariable "no".  This the final peice of fruit from the tree of knowledge, and we are Cain, actively standing over the corpse of our murdered brother Abel, devouring it to make cute avatars.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (02/01/26 09:43 AM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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my gf had a guy try to cheat a job interview having chatgtp answer the questions he was being asked.  they analyzed the video and saw his eyes moving to read.


whos worse the applicant or the employer analyzing your eyeball movement? like good grief that would make me incredibly uneasy. knowing not only in the high pressure interview i gotta be on point but now my eye movement is going to be scrutinized? ffs:facepalm:


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
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my gf had a guy try to cheat a job interview having chatgtp answer the questions he was being asked.  they analyzed the video and saw his eyes moving to read.


whos worse the applicant or the employer analyzing your eyeball movement? like good grief that would make me incredibly uneasy. know not only in the high pressure interview i gotta be on point but now my eye movement is going to be scrutinized? ffs:facepalm:


yeah, an unfortunate biproduct of ai...

whos worse? id say the hack trying scam my gfs company is far worse than my gf trying to protect themselves. 

sorry mb thats not really valid.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
    #29470722 -

i wasnt trying to judge the specific incident just the overall broader picture.

imo/e virtual interviews are a waste of time. gotta get that in person feel for someone. like i said im not a 'modern person' so id never apply anywhere that would only have a virtual interview. that to me is an insult before im even employed.

but if someones gonna chatgpt an interview id make sure to ask an unanswerable question.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: mushboy] * 1
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half her company is in copenhagen so it created a a challenge with interviews.  i believe they did a followup in person and the dude was found to be a stuttering imbecile who didnt know shit about fuck.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
Quote:
my gf had a guy try to cheat a job interview having chatgtp answer the questions he was being asked.  they analyzed the video and saw his eyes moving to read.


whos worse the applicant or the employer analyzing your eyeball movement like good grief that would make me incredible uneasy. know not only in the high pressure interview i gotta be on point but now my eye movement is going to be judged ffs:facepalm:


I dont understand why it seems some companies deliberately stress you out in an interview. I guess if the work related stress of the job would be similar to that stress, but ffs, I had a 3 person panel interview me for over 3 hrs for a job that doesn't require me to hold my shit to together in that situation. I provided the entire management team from my prior employer as references. They'd have learned more from just calling them and asking about my work performance. 🤷‍♂️


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefExtreme said:
are we incapable of developing that line of logic further and asking the simple question of "is it worth it?"

my answer is invariable "no".  This the final peice of fruit from the tree of knowledge, and we are Cain, actively standing over the corpse of our murdered brother Abel, devouring it to make cute avatars.


Try having that kind of conversation with family members and whatnot, I look at a lot of technology these days and wonder if we need it at all.  I've idealized a version of the world where technology sort of stopped after the 50's or 60's, but who knows.  We have the opportunity to cultivate our own lifestyle to reflect our values and to influence other people by our lifestyle.  It is the best way I've found, show off my happiness by showing off my lifestyle. 



Because A.I. is already here an not going away I do think there's going to be another split like how the Amish did it.  So, Amish would be the original gangsters and then whoever steps back from A.I. and such, lets call them "normies", and then finally those who participate with and get the biological implants and zap their brains into computers.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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i dunno.  i think if you confidently know your shit, its not stressful at all.  at least it shouldnt be.

if anyone was curious, my arguments regarding ai and other technological advancementd invariable come from the perspective of the philosophy of animism.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: hidingbush]
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@hidingbush - the last paragraph of your post made me remember a good audiobook I listened to a couple of years ago, “Millions of Little Threads” by Robert Pantano (of the Pursuit of Wonder” youtube channel.  Pretty intense story/storytelling.  Peace to you, friend!


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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the main argument people will come up with when i start speaking from the perspective of animism is that it isnt inherently "evil" to advance technology.  that all lifeforms are striving to exploit every available resource to ensure their own survival and that it is a natural function of all life on this planet.  and it is. 

good and evil are human inventions.

please understand that my argument against ai isnt a subject of "good and evil", its a matter of SUSTAINABILITY and anyone paying attention will ultimately have an incredibly difficult time in convincing me otherwise.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Humans appear to be the only living thing on earth that in turn devestates and does not lead to conditions that replenish the circle of life.  Therefore making sense that technology, ai, comes from humans.  If seen through the lense of animism I'm not sure if it represents a demon that cannot stop consuming or something neutral or something that ends up helping humans to stop devestating our ecosystems.

Because it is not smart enough to be on it's own yet.  I totally predict a day where A.I. is building its own machines and computers for its own desires and no human is programming it.  When that happens we will see.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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also, duc made a really good argument and since shes not interested in logging in and posting it ill do it for her:

lets use the internal combustion engine as an example:

the horse and buggy manufacturer went out of business and all their workers were laid off.  however, they had relevant skills that would have allowed them to work on cars in some capacity.

the lantern lighter had the option of learning about electricity.

with ai, thats not the case.  ai is developing itself.

i have a friend who works for google and he talks about his friends who work in the ai oversight department.  in other words theyre the people who simply make sure ai doesnt malfunction and give harmful answers or information.


he said theyre dropping like flies.  they dont understand how it works or why it malfunctions and some of them are flat out losing the plot.  they have an entire psychiatric dept now for these dudes who are unraveling at an alarming rate in a desperate attempt to retain the employees.

think about that.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (02/01/26 09:30 AM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Pretty interesting NPR story on AI chatbots…clicking the direct link may not work from here, but cut n paste to a browser window should.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/20/nx-s1-5591473/ai-delusions-spiral-support-group-chatgpt


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 2
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Churpee Choozle said:
Luddite?


That's a badge of honor, by the way. One of the few social/political movements I see as utterly non-problematic. Perhaps those who are ignorant of the history of the term and toss it around like a slur could use chatgpt to get themselves up to speed, and also to distill down what we're saying to the 5 bulletpoints they can digest before needing another fix of flashy shiny things.


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a magnificent ancient poplar tree grows silently in a lonely dale just a stone's throw of an apartment complex, south. Does it mind if not a soul should ever open their curtains to bear witness to its majesty, or will it set like the sun upon the earth when it is time, utterly devoid of applause?



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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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bro...


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