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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 3
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I must confess I lost my cool with someone mentioning AI the other day here.
I think it was arkyhog or mister piggy either way, wasn't upset at them or their post. Just was in a crummy mood,
PLUS Ai apparently threatens some of us with our occupation, and is apparently a possible threat to mankind :shocked:

Just the sheer mentioning of it and :kingcrankey:


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Wedgie] * 2
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Meh. Shit happens. People argue. Itā€™s just part of being alive.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Wedgie] * 6
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Well, Wedgie, you shouldn't feel ashamed that you lost your temper. AI is a very emotional issue for many people. Social media sites like Reddit show that there is a variety of opinions on this topic, and people are unsure of whether this new technology will lead to positive outcomes. You mentioned the elimination of certain jobs, and that is an excellent point. Many people are concerned about jobs in the tech sector, but also manual labor positions that people without higher degrees rely on. People are also raising concern about increased water and energy usage associated with new data centers. However, it's important to keep in mind that no consensus exists on these issues, and one should try to keep an open mind when examining them.

Is there anything else you'd like help with today?


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: B Traven] * 2
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Nah, seriously though.

I'm so fucking worked up right now that I'm trying to spark my own personal analog revolution. Bout to go get a Ned Ludd tatto.


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Edited by B Traven (01/31/26 01:50 PM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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AstroSporeFiend said:
The only decent cops Iā€™ve ever met were former cops, who either quit after a couple years because of the bullshit, or were forced out because they wouldnā€™t cover up the shenanigans inside the system. 

Ive been arrested for literally nothing a couple times. Both times Iā€™ve been forced to hire an attorney and before any kind of trial the judge had tossed the cases. Why wasnā€™t the state forced to pay for my attorney fees when it was solely a result of dumb cops?


I served on a jury last year where it quickly became obvious that the only reason their bullshit case went to trial is that it involved a gun charge drummed up by a special task force, and there was no way in hell the DA was gonna drop a gun charge. Couldn't figure out why the prosecutor was so testy the whole time, until I realized that she was just pissed that she'd drawn shortest straw and had to present such a bullshit case. Kept trying to get the defense attorney to just get on with it so she could take her lumps and go get a stiff drink lol


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Edited by B Traven (01/31/26 01:44 PM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: B Traven] * 1
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B Traven said:
Well, Wedgie, you shouldn't feel ashamed that you lost your temper. AI is a very emotional issue for many people. Social media sites like Reddit show that there is a variety of opinions on this topic, and people are unsure of whether this new technology will lead to positive outcomes. You mentioned the elimination of certain jobs, and that is an excellent point. Many people are concerned about jobs in the tech sector, but also manual labor positions that people without higher degrees rely on. People are also raising concern about increased water and energy usage associated with new data centers. However, it's important to keep in mind that no consensus exists on these issues, and one should try to keep an open mind when examining them.

Is there anything else you'd like help with today?


:rofl:

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: JW123] * 1
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JW123 said:
B Traven said:
Well, Wedgie, you shouldn't feel ashamed that you lost your temper. AI is a very emotional issue for many people. Social media sites like Reddit show that there is a variety of opinions on this topic, and people are unsure of whether this new technology will lead to positive outcomes. You mentioned the elimination of certain jobs, and that is an excellent point. Many people are concerned about jobs in the tech sector, but also manual labor positions that people without higher degrees rely on. People are also raising concern about increased water and energy usage associated with new data centers. However, it's important to keep in mind that no consensus exists on these issues, and one should try to keep an open mind when examining them.

Is there anything else you'd like help with today?


:rofl:



True that :cool: yeah help me out and forgive me you guys. I do try to have an open mind with AI.
Such good advice being open minded :grin: thank you fam ^^


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Wedgie] * 4
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i have a very open mind about all things and i dont argue with anyone without first being prepared to concede and take the accountability that comes with it. 

ai is just a tool that gives rich people access to creativity and skill without actually paying for it.  this is a truth that any intelligent human will have a very difficult time dissolving.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 5
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They're trying to solve the pesky problem of having to pay humans for their labor


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 7
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AI is just a tool that bestows a certain type and amount of power on the user. Just like computing, gunpowder, fission, the isolation of botulinum toxin, and a million other things.

The problem isn't with the tool. Is with the user. And unfortunately we have seen over and over throughout history that power corrupts. Humans can't be trusted to wield such power. Some of us attempt to wield it responsibly and for the benefit of everyone. But far more people are stuck in infinite ego loops that compel them to act in a self-serving fashion, at the expense of the well-being of others. This is the way of the world, or at least what has been shown since we started writing down historical accounts.

I don't know how nuclear fission has been kept in check to the extent that it has for this long but when you think about it it's only for a microsecond compared to the history of the universe. We live in very dangerous times and are teetering on the precipice more than most people realize.

Then again what can each individual do, but stay present, resist, and try to be a good contributor to the human experience?


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Nokumana] * 1
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well put noku.  as usual.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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i feel like an old fossil at 41.

ive never used ai. my wife sometime uses one to literally give a face to the characters she writes in her ongoing thousand page epic that shes writing.

to me? current tech jobs remind me of horse and buggy jobs at the onset of the automobile. tons of jobs and positions lost but many get created.

or the virtual ai monster will kill us all



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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: mushboy] * 3
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That's actually a good point. Im sure a lot of people were pissed when electric appliances and light bulbs and such went mainstream.

"Paw lost his job as the street lantern lighter, thanks to those new, fancy shmancy lightbulbs!"

Im gonna assume the job market is a little tighter now too though. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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I see what we currently think of as "AI" as a privatization of collective knowledge for the benefit of a few, of course with the help of massive subsidies and externalities.

Machine learning is ultimately a whole othe topic in my view. What we're dealing with now is a wholesale rewiring of basic infrastructure and the way people get information, made possible by the erosion of independent local economies and communities over the past several decades.

Horse-and-buggy to internal combustion engine did change society in all sorts of ways, but in others, it maintained the same basic infrastructure and social interactions. I'd argue that the bigger transformation was when Robert Moses and his ilk turned up and said "let's see how much worse we can make things."

And that's the part that's also more analogous to the current situation. Blasting through every aspects of our lives to build "information" superhighways to nowhere.

I've spent my entire life learning about technology and following advances in computing and electronics. I'm not anti-technology, that's an absurd proposition anyhow as even something like a flint arrowhead is a sophisticated piece of weapons technology. But I'm not terribly far from adopting the phrase "woops, looks like Ned Ludd broke something again."


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Edited by B Traven (01/31/26 09:17 PM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: B Traven] * 2
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I use AI daily and have since it came out. Used well itā€™s a great tool. Just like every advance in tech Iā€™ve leveraged over a 30+ year career. Each time something came along some people adapted and others didnā€™t. Art directors who were 65 learned how to use the computer to move from pencil and marker and paste ups to computer page layout. Others retired. Time marches on. This is no different.

As far as tattoos, I want enough money to go to Japan for however long it takes me to go full yakuza.

Plus AI makes fun avatars in seconds. I am Groot.


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Edited by 1NFIN8 (01/31/26 09:33 PM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
AI is just a tool that bestows a certain type and amount of power on the user. Just like computing, gunpowder, fission, the isolation of botulinum toxin, and a million other things.

The problem isn't with the tool. Is with the user. And unfortunately we have seen over and over throughout history that power corrupts. Humans can't be trusted to wield such power. Some of us attempt to wield it responsibly and for the benefit of everyone. But far more people are stuck in infinite ego loops that compel them to act in a self-serving fashion, at the expense of the well-being of others. This is the way of the world, or at least what has been shown since we started writing down historical accounts.

I don't know how nuclear fission has been kept in check to the extent that it has for this long but when you think about it it's only for a microsecond compared to the history of the universe. We live in very dangerous times and are teetering on the precipice more than most people realize.

Then again what can each individual do, but stay present, resist, and try to be a good contributor to the human experience?



Very well said my friend.. I'm going to go on record here and say that's a perfect response from somebody who just participated in an ayahuasca ceremony.

Wise words from a wise soul.

As bad as the world is; out there right now..

I do feel a sense of relief knowing that there are people out there thinking about the right things and doing the right things in hopes for change. Ahem.....thats you!


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: callmehippie]
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I like your style 1nfin8

I'm working on a Japanese bodysuit as we speak. I've got a full sleeve.  A quarter sleeve, half my chest, My back and both my calves already.    I've still got a long way to go. 


And it would be really cool to actually go to Japan and get a legit traditional "tebori".    Like to finish it all off.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: callmehippie]
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Thank you, brother. Nice to have kindred spirits here.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: callmehippie]
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I also use Ai to map out my tattoos. 

Like have my artist draw sonyhing then use it to see what it looks like on me before I get it.


Also had fun making all the "advertisements" for cake wars.

And my avatar.


However I am an artist and would never call any thing done on Ai mine.

Its way more satisfying to actually create a cool piece of art for real.

To really put my passion  and skill into somthin I love.  A computer could never beat that.  Imo.   

I hate that people are actually singing Ai music artist to thier lables. That shit blows my mind  Thee song are souless.  Obviously.

I listen to people because I can relate to their experience or can share their pain and believe in their words and experiences they are sharing.

Not because they know how to put the right words together and make sense over a melody.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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I wouldnā€™t worry about the music thing. As long as there is hardship, which there always will be, there will always be an underground music scene. Pissed off youth makes for pretty dope music and always has. Ai isnā€™t going to be able to touch that. Now, it may be able to replace some super shitty Katy Perry shit. I almost feel like that could be welcomed. Lol

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