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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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Mr Piggy said:
I was a "gifted" youth.

Anyway, pass the ketamine.




I think all kids are gifted in some way and the ones deemed special enough for smart enough shouldn't be the only ones that have access to these cool extracurricular type activities and classes. Some kids excel in some ways and some kids excel in others. The ones that excel in art are just as much "gifted" and "talented"....  it should not just be deemed academic

I was never ever "smart" enough to make it into one of these classes.. therefore I was excluded.

However I was absolutely gifted and talented enough to excel in some sort of other program and if I would have been included.

I think I would have had more fun in school as a child as opposed to being told I'm dumb all the time and given tests constantly  to figure out where to place me with all the other dumb kids so that nobody could think about or pay attention to me anymore..


The gifted and talented program main my eyes is just more important people excluding those who are less fortunate than others. 

A d  the kids have no clue until they become those stuck up bullies that think they are smarter and more important than everyone else because the school separated them and said so.



Sorry  this one really hits home with me. And was a discussion my wife and I had recently about the school my nephews are attending.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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AstroSporeFiend said:
Well said, Nokumana!



🙏


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 4
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I have a new confession for this rainy Sunday:

Being a noob and frolicking in my noobie ways, I've decided to engage in a little bit of magical thinking. I know that Amanita Muscaria is very difficult if not impossible to cultivate indoors. But a friend of mine just had a massive flush of them outside in her front yard so I popped over and snagged one with a big fat Stipe and I've decided to try my hand at cloning the stipe tissue just to see if I can get it to propagate on ager. I'm looking at it more as an exercise in practicing cloning and good sterile technique. I have no plans for spawning it or actually getting fruit.

What are the chances I can get some mycelium to grow just for funsies?


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Nokumana] * 4
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dude ive dreamed of getting that to work.  capture the culture first. shotgun it to us all.  smash wedges across the community and one of us will figure it out!

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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BeefSupremeJr said:
dude ive dreamed of getting that to work.  capture the culture first. shotgun it to us all.  smash wedges across the community and one of us will figure it out!



DONE DEAL!

I just plated four tissue samples while you were typing that. Fingers crossed!



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HHG
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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
dude ive dreamed of getting that to work.  capture the culture first. shotgun it to us all.  smash wedges across the community and one of us will figure it out!



DONE DEAL!

I just plated four tissue samples while you were typing that. Fingers crossed!





https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29446649


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: callmehippie] * 5
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callmehippie said:
Mr Piggy said:
I was a "gifted" youth.

Anyway, pass the ketamine.




I think all kids are gifted in some way and the ones deemed special enough for smart enough shouldn't be the only ones that have access to these cool extracurricular type activities and classes. Some kids excel in some ways and some kids excel in others. The ones that excel in art are just as much "gifted" and "talented"....  it should not just be deemed academic

I was never ever "smart" enough to make it into one of these classes.. therefore I was excluded.

However I was absolutely gifted and talented enough to excel in some sort of other program and if I would have been included.

I think I would have had more fun in school as a child as opposed to being told I'm dumb all the time and given tests constantly  to figure out where to place me with all the other dumb kids so that nobody could think about or pay attention to me anymore..


The gifted and talented program main my eyes is just more important people excluding those who are less fortunate than others. 

A d  the kids have no clue until they become those stuck up bullies that think they are smarter and more important than everyone else because the school separated them and said so.



Sorry  this one really hits home with me. And was a discussion my wife and I had recently about the school my nephews are attending.



Oh, yeah, it's all super fucked.

I actually ended up at the magnet school BECAUSE they were testing me to see what the fuck was wrong with me. My 4th grade teacher asked my mom if she did drugs when she was pregnant. What she probably should have asked was something more like "is it possible that your son refuses to cooperate with me because he sees me as a raging bitch with a personality disorder?"

But the whole thing was such a joke. Shocking coincidence that the magnet school was located at the richer end of our part of the county, convenient for all the parents who'd pushed their kids into the program. And it was definitely as much an uneven reward for teachers as it was for students. Surprise, surprise, the cool hippie teachers given classrooms with full banks of windows in a newer building, with a class full of kids whos parents were all engaged, were able to do more. Upon reflection, a lot of the kids in my zoned school definitely weren't any less gifted, even academically speaking, than the "gifted" kids. It was, for the most part, just classism.

And that's pretty much the entire history of education in this country. When did really cool nurturing private elementary schools that set kids up for academic success really take off across the deep south and inner cities in the northeast? Gee, I wonder. And, no, don't you say it's a race thing. A lot of those schools are perfectly fine with taking the "good ones," and handing out a few full scholarships here and there to keep things "inclusive."

And don't get me started on Ivy League schools. Everyone says they're a ripoff, but those people just don't get it: the Ivy League isn't about education, it's about CONNECTIONS. Yeah, you gotta be academically accomplished enough to distance yourself from the hoi polloi, but all that amounts to little more than an elaborate hazing ritual to learn all the secret handshakes.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 2
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AstroSporeFiend said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
k also saved my life.  i think its a lot more spiritual than you might think.  for me it lays bare the essence that is me.  my inner child.  its not the experience or sensation that is important, its what you DO with the space that it grants.  its the work youre able to accomplish while youre unencumbered. the ghost knows what it wants and what it needs.  the body is a distraction.  impulse and desire are temporal and chemical. 

when all weaker and lower energy emotions decay, love and fear remain.  polar opposites.  what you choose to nurture will determine the neurological network you prefer.


:micdrop:



Nice mic-drop, Beef!  Ha!

Seriously though, you need to give me some tips on how to do that!  I journal like a motherfucker leading up to a k session, but it has always been a mess afterward and is more difficult for me to integrate than a shroom trip. I always want to maximize the impact, but have just kind of accepted that it doesn’t quite punch me through quite like want it to. I’ll figure it out at some point, I’m sure.



I journal, prep, meditate, you name it prior. However the real breakthrough came when I simply let go for my sessions. I trusted that my prep surfaced whatever I needed, and that God, the Universe, name your higher power, knows a shit ton more than I do and I just let go. Blank the mind except for a simple mantra that fit like Clarity, Connection, Ceremony. That’s it. And then trust and let go.

Doing that made all the difference for me in a way that is indescribably a leap out of reality.


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“The answer is always grow more shroom.” Mr Piggy
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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
k also saved my life.  i think its a lot more spiritual than you might think.  for me it lays bare the essence that is me.  my inner child.  its not the experience or sensation that is important, its what you DO with the space that it grants.  its the work youre able to accomplish while youre unencumbered. the ghost knows what it wants and what it needs.  the body is a distraction.  impulse and desire are temporal and chemical. 

when all weaker and lower energy emotions decay, love and fear remain.  polar opposites.  what you choose to nurture will determine the neurological network you prefer.


:micdrop:



Beef, I'm curious, have you sat with Ayahuasca?

My plant medicine path started with ceremonial mushroom work with a dear friend in Mexico, and that eventually led to Aya. I'm sort of right in the thick of it now, having done two ceremonies and working on a third later this month. Some of that work is what led me to feel called to grow my own mushroom medicine, by the way.

Anyway I'm curious to know if it's something (any of) you have ever felt called to.


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Eskawata kaya waikiki
HHG
"Shake it like you would a newborn baby" - BeefExtreme

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Nokumana]
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Kloaak






Mush love to you.

And beef. 

You're like the Godfather dude and thankfully we don't have to make the decisions you do. And your even better for it!


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Nokumana  I like your avatar. 

It reminds me a lot of my really good kiwi friend. Dk's  avatar.



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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: callmehippie] * 2
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callmehippie said:
Nokumana  I like your avatar. 

It reminds me a lot of my really good kiwi friend. Dk's  avatar.





Thanks, Hippie!  Yours is top-notch as well :smile:

That's my 7-year old GSD, Giada. She's a great pal 😍


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Nokumana]
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Nokumana said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
k also saved my life.  i think its a lot more spiritual than you might think.  for me it lays bare the essence that is me.  my inner child.  its not the experience or sensation that is important, its what you DO with the space that it grants.  its the work youre able to accomplish while youre unencumbered. the ghost knows what it wants and what it needs.  the body is a distraction.  impulse and desire are temporal and chemical. 

when all weaker and lower energy emotions decay, love and fear remain.  polar opposites.  what you choose to nurture will determine the neurological network you prefer.


:micdrop:



Beef, I'm curious, have you sat with Ayahuasca?

My plant medicine path started with ceremonial mushroom work with a dear friend in Mexico, and that eventually led to Aya. I'm sort of right in the thick of it now, having done two ceremonies and working on a third later this month. Some of that work is what led me to feel called to grow my own mushroom medicine, by the way.

Anyway I'm curious to know if it's something (any of) you have ever felt called to.



aha! "the devil knows his own"
as  they say.  i see you see me see you see me.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: 1NFIN8]
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1NFIN8 said:
AstroSporeFiend said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
k also saved my life.  i think its a lot more spiritual than you might think.  for me it lays bare the essence that is me.  my inner child.  its not the experience or sensation that is important, its what you DO with the space that it grants.  its the work youre able to accomplish while youre unencumbered. the ghost knows what it wants and what it needs.  the body is a distraction.  impulse and desire are temporal and chemical. 

when all weaker and lower energy emotions decay, love and fear remain.  polar opposites.  what you choose to nurture will determine the neurological network you prefer.


:micdrop:



Nice mic-drop, Beef!  Ha!

Seriously though, you need to give me some tips on how to do that!  I journal like a motherfucker leading up to a k session, but it has always been a mess afterward and is more difficult for me to integrate than a shroom trip. I always want to maximize the impact, but have just kind of accepted that it doesn’t quite punch me through quite like want it to. I’ll figure it out at some point, I’m sure.



I journal, prep, meditate, you name it prior. However the real breakthrough came when I simply let go for my sessions. I trusted that my prep surfaced whatever I needed, and that God, the Universe, name your higher power, knows a shit ton more than I do and I just let go. Blank the mind except for a simple mantra that fit like Clarity, Connection, Ceremony. That’s it. And then trust and let go.

Doing that made all the difference for me in a way that is indescribably a leap out of reality.



dude thats beautiful.  thank you for sharing that.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 4
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Im going put it as a "to do" to talk about my mystical experience via various chemicals and how i used that space to find my center and sort my shit out. its on the list. i think its more than a confessional post.

thanks everyone for sharing everything today.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: 1NFIN8] * 3
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BeefSupremeJr said:
1NFIN8 said:
AstroSporeFiend said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
k also saved my life.  i think its a lot more spiritual than you might think.  for me it lays bare the essence that is me.  my inner child.  its not the experience or sensation that is important, its what you DO with the space that it grants.  its the work youre able to accomplish while youre unencumbered. the ghost knows what it wants and what it needs.  the body is a distraction.  impulse and desire are temporal and chemical. 

when all weaker and lower energy emotions decay, love and fear remain.  polar opposites.  what you choose to nurture will determine the neurological network you prefer.


:micdrop:



Nice mic-drop, Beef!  Ha!

Seriously though, you need to give me some tips on how to do that!  I journal like a motherfucker leading up to a k session, but it has always been a mess afterward and is more difficult for me to integrate than a shroom trip. I always want to maximize the impact, but have just kind of accepted that it doesn’t quite punch me through quite like want it to. I’ll figure it out at some point, I’m sure.



I journal, prep, meditate, you name it prior. However the real breakthrough came when I simply let go for my sessions. I trusted that my prep surfaced whatever I needed, and that God, the Universe, name your higher power, knows a shit ton more than I do and I just let go. Blank the mind except for a simple mantra that fit like Clarity, Connection, Ceremony. That’s it. And then trust and let go.

Doing that made all the difference for me in a way that is indescribably a leap out of reality.



dude thats beautiful.  thank you for sharing that.



1NFIN8 said:
AstroSporeFiend said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
k also saved my life.  i think its a lot more spiritual than you might think.  for me it lays bare the essence that is me.  my inner child.  its not the experience or sensation that is important, its what you DO with the space that it grants.  its the work youre able to accomplish while youre unencumbered. the ghost knows what it wants and what it needs.  the body is a distraction.  impulse and desire are temporal and chemical. 

when all weaker and lower energy emotions decay, love and fear remain.  polar opposites.  what you choose to nurture will determine the neurological network you prefer.


:micdrop:



Nice mic-drop, Beef!  Ha!

Seriously though, you need to give me some tips on how to do that!  I journal like a motherfucker leading up to a k session, but it has always been a mess afterward and is more difficult for me to integrate than a shroom trip. I always want to maximize the impact, but have just kind of accepted that it doesn’t quite punch me through quite like want it to. I’ll figure it out at some point, I’m sure.



I journal, prep, meditate, you name it prior. However the real breakthrough came when I simply let go for my sessions. I trusted that my prep surfaced whatever I needed, and that God, the Universe, name your higher power, knows a shit ton more than I do and I just let go. Blank the mind except for a simple mantra that fit like Clarity, Connection, Ceremony. That’s it. And then trust and let go.

Doing that made all the difference for me in a way that is indescribably a leap out of reality.



Very well said. IME shedding all expectations before going into a psychedelic experience, especially a therapeutic one, is the key to success. The medicine does not give you what you want, it gives you what you need. If you are distracted by piles of expectations, you will miss the message. This is of course easier said than done, but sage advice nevertheless. Surrender to the process, to the medicine, and there will be no bad trips. Perhaps difficult moments but it's all for the good. I think this is particularly useful during the most difficult moments with ayahuasca or mushrooms or any other psychedelic. Approach each vision or emotion with curiosity, ask why am I being shown this? and what am I meant to learn from this? When the scary doors open, having The bravery to walk through them is what leads you to the light on the other side.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Nokumana] * 3
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fuck an eh. noku. please.  take your seat by the fire with us.  you done got where you were going. thank you so much for being here with us.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefSupremeJr said:
fuck an eh. noku. please.  take your seat by the fire with us.  you done got where you were going. thank you so much for being here with us.



I am humbled, friend.  Thank you.

Did you see my question to you about Ayahuasca?


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: callmehippie] * 1
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Quote:
Approach each vision or emotion with curiosity, ask why am I being shown this? and what am I meant to learn from this? When the scary doors open, having The bravery to walk through them is what leads you to the light on the other side.



This is my current lesson. Ketamine is old hat for me, and numb, so I know how to handle it. Shrooms are a whole other level of emotion and intensity and I get lost in the fear, anxiety, and doubt. I haven’t gotten to the point where I can put it aside and ask those questions yet. I will with more work.


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You can ignore the truth to your final breath. But trust me, it will meet you there to be ignored no longer.

The answer to your question is almost always 42
“The answer is always grow more shroom.” Mr Piggy
- Those two answers coexist peacefully.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: 1NFIN8]
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This is my current lesson. Ketamine is old hat for me, and numb, so I know how to handle it. Shrooms are a whole other level of emotion and intensity, and I get lost in the fear, anxiety, and doubt. I haven’t gotten to the point where I can put it aside and ask those questions yet. I will with more work.



Hey man, I am no expert either, but this IS my approach to these experiences.  The last Ayahuasca ceremony I participated in was 2 nights.  The first night was extremely hard - the fear, anxiety, and doubt you mentioned, along with some very dark visions - and I tried to ask those questions.  It didn't mean I got answers, though, but the PROCESS still helped...and the second night was downright ecstatic.  It was as if the first night cleared all the evil cobwebs out and cleared the way for the healing on night #2.


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HHG
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