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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: LotKid]
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I feel left out too….. no that’s a lie. You done good beef,

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Dynasty] * 5
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I'll confess ...it was the year of the noobs there were so many that killed it , hats off to you all !
You guys have so many active tc's to listen to and follow it's truly a blessing and a huge shout out to those tc's for stepping up as well , lets us know the system is working, now it's time to step it up and go from student to teacher and show us where the real skills lay their Beaty eyes , push that envelope break those boundaries


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It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn
I'm tired do me a favor

I'M A MEMBER FIRST, TC WHEN NEEDED AND MOD WHEN I HAVE TO BE !!!

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: cronicr] * 3
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Why noob of the year?
why not noobs of the year?
what is the purpose of the competitive aspect?
mushrooms lower boundaries, so why build new ones by encouraging competition?
just some thoughts..


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the observer is the observed
            j. krishnamurti


>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: chris77] * 2
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I once proposed storewide shroomery awards , best poster best grow most improved best TC ect for cult/ gourmet with each forum having their own section and had many mods / admins ect on board , mods from each would come up with their own categories and prizes Soley funded by donation , would have been like a year end show


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I'm tired do me a favor

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: chris77] * 2
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chris77 said:
Why noob of the year?
why not noobs of the year?
what is the purpose of the competitive aspect?
mushrooms lower boundaries, so why build new ones by encouraging competition?
just some thoughts..



Competition...simply drives people , attitudes like that are why my kids don't get normal school grades anymore 😆


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It doesn't matter what i think of you...all that matters is clean spawn
I'm tired do me a favor

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
I once proposed storewide shroomery awards , best poster best grow most improved best TC ect for cult/ gourmet with each forum having their own section and had many mods / admins ect on board , mods from each would come up with their own categories and prizes Soley funded by donation , would have been like a year end show



that could be fun and give their 15 min of fame to everybody who wants it


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the observer is the observed
            j. krishnamurti


>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
chris77 said:
Why noob of the year?
why not noobs of the year?
what is the purpose of the competitive aspect?
mushrooms lower boundaries, so why build new ones by encouraging competition?
just some thoughts..



Competition...simply drives people , attitudes like that are why my kids don't get normal school grades anymore 😆



sure but isn‘t drive the root of all suffering…
:sagetrip:


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the observer is the observed
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>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: chris77] * 2
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Jealousy is a real bitch ain't it


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
Jealousy is a real bitch ain't it



:manofapproval:


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>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: chris77]
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:rofl:


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: cronicr] * 4
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cronicr said:
I once proposed storewide shroomery awards , best poster best grow most improved best TC ect for cult/ gourmet with each forum having their own section and had many mods / admins ect on board , mods from each would come up with their own categories and prizes Soley funded by donation , would have been like a year end show



That would be fun. Seems like a lot of extra work for the powers at the helm. Or maybe not. I don't know how these things work.

On the "competition drives people" note, I agree. My whole life has been driven by trying to get a pat on the ass for doing good. So that hits right at home for me. Not just for me, tho. Our society is built on it. Survival of the fittest, as it were. This NOTY thing made me want to do better, whether I liked it or not!

Kloakk is one of those naturally gifted people that excels at their craft. There is a stark difference. I assume he was the type of kid that never had to study for the quiz in school. He is natural talent just cruising along to the finish line in his homemade rocket ship while I'm down here trying to figure out the right combination of cleaning products to drink so I can teleport there. I'm not saying he didnt have to work at it. Building a rocket ship is no easy task (having little raccoon hands is likely a benefit), let alone the the theory behind it.

Anyway, I'm rambling.

The point is... well... shit...

Here is a picture of my weiner.

*pauses for dramatic effect*

Tah Dah!



*sprints out of room*


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 3
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I'd give you a pat on the ass for nothing,  bro :heart::rockon:


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mackload] * 2
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This is how soulmates meet!

:loveheart:


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 6
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fuckin gil :rofl:

really though, there wasnt a single bad nomination this year and every one of yall would have cleaned my clock.  youve all come further in a year than i did in my first 10.  i would like to think the noty helped facilitate that. 

i also hope that everyone can just appreciate that kloakk would have crushed us all--every one of us--if we were all set back to zero.  it just is what it is.  i know him well as a person at this point and hes not incapable of mistakes and flaws, but he seems incapable of realizing it when hes slipped. 

i was in advanced education programs when i was a kid because i got bored in the normal program so they made me play with the real nerds.  they made us learn to play chess and type and build computers and robots.  i found out quickly that Im actually pretty average as far as nerds go.  i used to play chess with a kid who ultimately invented a glove that literally SPEAKS sign language.  he did this in HIGHSCHOOL, and im not sure where he is now but my guess is that he is doing very well. 

i remember the smirk on his face after every move i made.  i remember him taking my queen with a rook and i threw the entire set across the room and ran out of the class crying.  i sobbed all day long, believing myself to be stupid.

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: BeefExtreme] * 9
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Oh, fuck, so many thoughts about all this. I confess that the majority of them are framed in negative terms. I'll try to filter them into something a little less bitter here.

Man, those gifted classes. What the fuck. So many different spins on the word "nerd." Of course we're all nerds to some degree, though I'm inclined to argue that we're more geeks. Ultimately, I do see nerd as a pejorative word, and the fundamental reason, beyond dumber social stigmas, is an impaired social intelligence and an inability to translate thoughts into something most people will give a shit about. Also, perhaps there's some lightning-fast intelligence in the mix, and some ability to focus on a handful of topics and projects for decades, but there's an impaired ability to connect any of that to the "outside world." This is how you end up with the Botany professor I had who could draw elaborate plant structures from memory to illustrate where various clades diverged and how plant evolution played out, but also tried to send his son to gay conversion therapy.

I also got moved to a magnet school in 5th grade because I was "bored." It was presented as an opportunity to be more creative and do more fun stuff, which may have been true to some extent. But I also got mercilessly bullied by all the upper-middle-class kids who's parents probably just went to bat to get them into the program, because, you know, working-class kids were like 3 years behind on all the stupid pop and consumer culture we had in the 80's. And, of course, they were already conditioned by their shitty parents to see the academic environment as a competitive one. The spectrum-y nerds were ultimately mostly fine, though I definitely developed a sense at an early age that these were the sorts of people who needed specific jobs, not broad administrative roles with lots of power.

So, two thoughts that ultimately can't be framed as anything other than slight downers:

1. The amount of solid quality information here is probably at an all-time-high. This does make it easier, for those who are motivated, to go through the process.

2. The average "newb" on an open drug forum like this typically ends up being somewhat insufferable. If it's just a matter of being kinda clueless, but they're willing to listen, then it's usually fine. The Nerd who read EVERYthing and has a ginormous conceptual map of everything and is ready to argue before they've even bought a PC, is another matter. And then, of course, there's the reddit zombies and various other people with a chip on their shoulder. People using AI (more Nerd shit, in my book.) People who don't speak English, and are trying to use google translate. Don't get me wrong, the internet is a big place and I don't really have anything against any of these people. But I may lose interest in talking to them pretty quickly. And it does suck when they're running around starting shit and spewing awful advce.

So, it seems pretty straightforward from a certain vantage point: read the fucking manual, treat people with respect, stay humble, get in there and start the process of hands-on learning.

VERY few people in the world are able to do that well- for ANYthing. And we're talking about meth trailer mycoculture here. Improvised growing techniques for felony drugs. The ability to be cool and climb the learning curve and fit into our little social club and keep your (presumably, usually) illegal grow safe and deal with ALL the other stuff in your life, in THIS world we're currently living in, probably growing to manage psychological and neurological conditions which you have to still deal with while learning to grow? Yeah, that's a rare thing. And we appreciate the shit out of it.

Of course we want to show appreciation, but NOTM is also a way to "tag" people who are pretty trustworthy despite their recent registration date. I have low-level PTSD from seeing so many posts from, like, two-week-old accounts that amount to "do blah, trust me bro." Reminders that someone has already proven themselves to some extent can be helpful.

Same with the TC tags- they're just there to indicate that the established community has deemed these people experienced and somewhat knowledgeable. That's all. But it's also limited by registration date and how many people should realistically be tagged within a given time period, which is why there remain various travesties of justice like me receiving a tag before Dkeppel. But then again, maybe he doesn't need a TC tag, as he's already New Zealand's UN representative for psilocybe cultivation.

I registered here during lockdown. Largely out of boredom. I'd already been lurking and growing for 4 years at the time. At the outset, I had massive paranoia about taking pictures, posting online, showing people my grow, etc. In all honesty, what that really did was save me from recording all my embarassing thoughts, false starts, massive fuck-ups, etc. Every annoying thing that i see some new account type out, I once thought all by myself in my lair back in the day. I can just pretend that none of that happened. Every stern statement I make about misattribution of issues, or the use of unnecessary supplements, or whatever, is ultimately grounded in a suppressed memory of the time I did that.

So, yeah, on the one hand, it's kinda cool to see that maybe the current cultivation labrynth on here is less confusing than the one I found 10 years ago. On the other, that makes it absolutely no less impressive that some of you have used those resources to the fullest to advance your skills and knowledge in record time.

Was there something in there about feeling like a chore and not a hobby? I mean, at a certain point, I feel like you gotta go through that to reach expert level on anything. Lord knows I experience that feeling regularly, but then again, while my reasons for growing are many and quite complex,

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Edited by B Traven (01/04/26 10:53 AM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 4
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wow, the hype is really something.
it hasen‘t been like this before, am i right or did i not notice it?

just to make myself clear, i am not against the idea of showing off how good we can be, pushing the envelope and advancing into new techniques and whatnot. not at all.

but lets put things into perspective: (almost) everyone who can invest the time, the commitment and the basic equipment can learn to grow mushrooms. some better some less skillfull.
but almost everyone can and will improve, learn, discover..

so, while some will master the art beautifully and end up printing  labelstickers for their petri dishes, others will keep messy grow environments (but still have clean cultures), while again others will be average in every aspect and still grow pretty canopies nevertheless.

the point i am trying to make is that i dont like the comparison, especially when its a way to evaluate the quality of a cultivator.
to me this is pointless.
the ideal cultivator and the strive to become one - wouldnt it be a rather sad endeavour to follow a form instead of your personal meaning?
krishnamurti (someone i love) made me understand that comparison must lead to suffering. as it spoils the potential of our personal present moment. but i won‘t get too philosophical here.

i guess i wouldnt have had these thoughts now if i hadnt read Gils reaction and how he kind of had put himself under pressure. it almost spoiled his mood i think.

at the same time its natural to want to be good at something.
But i really think that hype can be a curse.
Whether Kloakk is really enjoying the buzz, so far we havent heard from him. I guess he can handle it :wink:

sorry if my post doesnt make sense for you, in which case please nevermind.
lets stay humble and not compare too much
just my 2c
:peace:


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            j. krishnamurti


>The Hitchhiker‘s Guide to the Shroomery<

Edited by chris77 (01/04/26 12:05 PM)

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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 9
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I was a "gifted" youth.

Anyway, pass the ketamine.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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Mr Piggy said:
I was a "gifted" youth.

Anyway, pass the ketamine.



:hahahafuck:


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: B Traven] * 4
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Thanks for taking the time to share your perspective on it all, B.

I kinda feel like one of those upper middle class kids now. The wealth of knowledge here at an "all-time high" sort of makes me feel like I have taken for granted the hard work of my forbearers. Especially with my comment about the hobby feeling like a chore. I meant that it felt that way because of the rat race to try to make it to the top of the noob list on short time.

As far as the academic space being made out to be a competitive one, it's more than the parents putting that on. "Winning a scholarship" implies competition. Competition isn't a bad thing. Catching bad feelings because we aren't good enough to win is the real problem. That's a product of shitty parents as well, among other sources. Societal expectations probably play into that. Failure is like "The strong win and get the girl but the losers have to eat toenail sammiches forever." I mean, toenail sammiches ain't so bad with a little pond scum dressing but not everyone is so privileged as me to have a pond in the neighborhood. Silver linings and what-not.

I appreciate your point about the hurdles of participating in this hobby. The point of succeeding against the odds while running a meth trailer mycoculture.


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Re: Cultivation confessional [Re: chris77] * 3
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"Comparison must lead to suffering" is true in my case. And yes. I did ruin my mood by pressuring myself. I always do. If I have a goal and there is competition, I'll do it every single time. Most of the time I do come out on top. I'm a small fish doing fish stuff, though. Trying to not be a bottom feeder, mostly.

That quote at the start of my post is revealing to me. I am aware of it when I'm under that pressure. Lately, I think about you guys when I'm in that frame of mind. Like, why can't I enjoy this journey? Goes back to imposter syndrome or something of the type, I suppose.

Anyway, not trying to hog the ball. I hope I'm being as transparent as I can be here.


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