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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 2
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
Good stuff. I didn't know you were educated in that way. I also get the cain & abel story mixed up with the one where the brother stole the blessing from his father by wearing an animal hide.

I'm Abel in all of this. An ignorant shepherd. Why? You said it. What am I going to do about it? And furthermore, why would I care? I have no legacy. My bloodline ends with me. All of my sibling are/were half siblings. So I'm going to herd my proverbial sheep and keep trying to find happiness. I'm not part of the solution. That's why you'll never hear me talk about any of this or complain one way or the other.

Is there anyone here who is giving themselves up to change any of the things that need changing or revolutionized? I doubt it beyond simple day to day courtesy and a "love your brother" mentality.

I enjoyed reading your response, beef. I'll be thinking about it while I'm at work tomorrow. This forum is really something special. Thanks for making my vision of the world a little more clear.

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try not to let it get you down.  let it liberate you brother. nothing matters.  do anything you want.

abel is dead.  we are cain and we are "banished to roam the earth forever"

its ok.  you just do your best to be the best version of yourself you can be.  there is no moral higher ground as cain; recycling your cans and eating vegan isnt going to save the world, but the world doesnt need saved.

just dont be a wand, ya know? dont hurt nobody.  dont dump your trash on the side of the road.  dont be cruel.  help ever, hurt never.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 1
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
This is at least twice I have noticed your mention of "blasphemy" in this conversation. If you have time to elaborate, what is your personal philosophy on blasphemy?



do you believe man was created to conquer the earth and earth was created for man to conquer?

if you say no, you are by definition a blasphemer.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 3
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AstroSporeFiend said:
I sometimes wish we could put together some sort of retreat just for all us mush heads. Like, imagine 100 people from mush cult sitting around a bigass bonfire. Burning man be damned!!!



funny you say that.  ive been building such a place for the last four years. 

im now teaming up with another member i wont mention and think that all roads lead to exactly that place my dude

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Fuck yeah. Count me in if I should be so humble.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 3
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i talked all night with the smartest friend i have about this one night (daniel)

and at the end of it daniel said "all creatures--even bacteria-- are trying to capitalize on every resource they possibly can.  thats just nature"

i said "ok but even bacteria will devour a corpse in the desert until there is nothing left and the sun destoys their entire population"

"and?" said daniel

"and you dont see that its what we are doing? you dont see how this isnt sustainable"

daniel and i then reached an agreement and went to bed.  morals and ethics aside, what we are doing just isnt sustainable and beinf conscious of it is blasphemy by definition.

Edited by BeefExtreme (12/08/25 01:46 AM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 4
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Beef I love you dude.

And TCO, even though you are now in power and I piss on all power, love you too.

No. Ban me! Pick me, pick me!

Ahem. Beef, you are right. I studied history too, but in my case it was because it was one of the rare places where you can fume about the industrial revolution, the patriarchy, he military-industrial complex etc. And still get an A.

Everything about our society is immensely rotten. Most of the philosophers we base our supposed moral and intellectual superiority on, actually said the same. Even a lot of the Catholic saints were actually reformers who lived in poverty and despised the standards of their church. But as Debord so aptly says: our society wrestles everything from our hands and sells it back to us as commodity. Print it on a shirt, and everyone goes back to collecting colored pieces of paper in order to buy the shirt and be a revolutionary


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


Species grown so far

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
Good stuff. I didn't know you were educated in that way. I also get the cain & abel story mixed up with the one where the brother stole the blessing from his father by wearing an animal hide.

I'm Abel in all of this. An ignorant shepherd. Why? You said it. What am I going to do about it? And furthermore, why would I care? I have no legacy. My bloodline ends with me. All of my sibling are/were half siblings. So I'm going to herd my proverbial sheep and keep trying to find happiness. I'm not part of the solution. That's why you'll never hear me talk about any of this or complain one way or the other.

Is there anyone here who is giving themselves up to change any of the things that need changing or revolutionized? I doubt it beyond simple day to day courtesy and a "love your brother" mentality.

I enjoyed reading your response, beef. I'll be thinking about it while I'm at work tomorrow. This forum is really something special. Thanks for making my vision of the world a little more clear.

edited for errors



try not to let it get you down.  let it liberate you brother. nothing matters.  do anything you want.

abel is dead.  we are cain and we are "banished to roam the earth forever"

its ok.  you just do your best to be the best version of yourself you can be.  there is no moral higher ground as cain; recycling your cans and eating vegan isnt going to save the world, but the world doesnt need saved.

just dont be a wand, ya know? dont hurt nobody.  dont dump your trash on the side of the road.  dont be cruel.  help ever, hurt never.



Exactly! A generic way I feel that is "do the right thing even when nobody is watching".

BeefSupremeJr said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
This is at least twice I have noticed your mention of "blasphemy" in this conversation. If you have time to elaborate, what is your personal philosophy on blasphemy?



do you believe man was created to conquer the earth and earth was created for man to conquer?

if you say no, you are by definition a blasphemer.



I would say no but I don't have anything to back up my answer either. I've never thought about this question.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 1
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love that.

wait is tco talking?  do i have him accidentally ignored?

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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He is a new Mod. Tip toe..tip toe…

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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hmm.  anyway. 

well forget the god part gil.  just think. 

do you think humans should take more than they need?
do you think the world is a bottomless grab bag of resources for us to use and proliferate our species?

i think most good conscious people will
say nah.  we should all maybe settle the fuck down and try to live within the system rather than above it.  like, maybe we should think about decreasing our population.  thats blasphemy.  I suspect by tomorrow even members of this community will come to the defense of the great agricultural revolution.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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oh nice.  tco is one of the best.  hell be a great mod.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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Decreasing population under current systems will come at great loss. Basic economics say so. And we may be alive to see it, actually. 40mil Gen A are approaching adulthood. 80mil would be necessary to keep the status quo. It’s going to be interesting.

Really the only way to fix it is to abandon current systems and move to smaller and more sustainable groups. Even Thomas Jefferson understood this before his death. What does the NY Times say, democracy dies in darkness? I argue it was never good for any one person.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
oh nice.  tco is one of the best.  hell be a great mod.



Could not agree more.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 4
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economists say lots of things.  theyre the true sandmen of the collective fever dream.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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What they say makes sense, but hence why I said under current systems. Humans are pretty fucking amazing and adaptable. If there is a way, we’ll find it. The question is what does the wake look like?

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 3
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"economy"
is another human construct.  currency is fake.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
"economy"
is another human construct.  currency is fake.



In this economy? I absolutely agree!


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Gilmour Hendrix]
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Economy and currency are not the same thing, my dudes.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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A squadron of javelina have an economy.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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AstroSporeFiend said:
Economy and currency are not the same thing, my dudes.



Oh I was just falling back on the ol' tried and true badly timed dad joke. :biggrin:


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