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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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…and another thing…not in jest at all….what the fuck is up with any god that *favors* anything at all?  As if that could even be a thing. The way I figure it is, if you’re god, you’re just fucking around with global fruiting chambers and breeding humans to create mutants and shit & really don't care too much what happens, like its an experiment. None of it matters, as we do it over and over, infinitely.

Maybe even sharing grow pics!


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Edited by flapping_bird (12/08/25 12:53 AM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: flapping_bird] * 3
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theres no such thing as "god" in that sense.  the concept is a metaphor. 

most of the bible is a collection of stolen oral bedtime stories.  literal interpretation is silly. 

the stories themselves though as allegory, are still as valid as they ever were


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Edited by BeefExtreme (12/08/25 12:56 AM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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:llamastare: You guys are goofy


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 2
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i dont believe humans are flawed.  i dont think there is something in our dna that makes us this way. its cultural.  humans were a natural steward of the land for 100s of thousands of years. like beavers. 

and we will remain that way for 100s of thousands of years more.

just not like this.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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man I really wish I had figured that out about 40 years ago…I feel used.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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I’m with ya, beef…fr. Dead nuts on.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: flapping_bird] * 3
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we're all used. religion is a control system.  highly effective especially the roman catholic church.  governments are more of the same.  the faces of cain.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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BeefSupremeJr said:
i dont believe humans are flawed.  i dont think there is something in our dna that makes us this way. its cultural.  humans were a natural steward of the land for 100s of thousands of years. like beavers. 

and we will remain that way for 100s of thousands of years more.

just not like this.


I dunno. Why cant we figure out a way to stop killing each other. There is something weird in the line of primates that wage war. I’m not talking about a buck killing another buck for some pussy. I’m talking about planned conflict. Seems dna based to me. But whatever it is, it doesn’t express unless placed in a position of authority.

Edited by AstroSporeFiend (12/08/25 01:05 AM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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Like, we say in cult that it’s probably genetic that this strain is a beast, or this strain is weak, or this strain is hearty. Could be true that a strong and deviously intelligent line of humans has a defect and it leads to destruction. It’s definitely not in everyone.

I’m still just exploring all of this, btw. I make my statements more as opinions so don’t ban me, TCO!!!

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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there is no tree of knowledge.  no god.  cain and abel are just characters in an ancient campfire story.  people love to criticize religion and yet, the peanut gallery always starts to throw stones when i preach blasphemy in the open as though the mechanisms of goverment and church are their entire identity.  (and and they are)

Im happy to talk to anyone about animism and blasphemy as personal philosophy.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 1
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AstroSporeFiend said:
Not
BeefSupremeJr said:
i dont believe humans are flawed.  i dont think there is something in our dna that makes us this way. its cultural.  humans were a natural steward of the land for 100s of thousands of years. like beavers. 

and we will remain that way for 100s of thousands of years more.

just not like this.


I dunno. Why cant we figure out a way to stop killing each other. There is something weird in the line of primates that wage war. I’m not talking about a buck killing another buck for some pussy. I’m talking about planned conflict. Seems dna based to me. But whatever it is, it doesn’t express unless placed in a position of authority.


you and i have never killed anyone.

im trying to use ancient metaphors to answer these questions:

same reason cain killed abel.  their interests were at adds. cain ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

"but beef the bible isnt real"

ya watch people defend government and techno-agrarianism like they got it all figured our. like they ate the fruit from the tree.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (12/08/25 01:17 AM)

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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realize that these metaphors were designed thousands of years ago to answer the SAME questions youre asking astro.

"why do the assyrians/greeks/romans/moores kill everyone and everything"

what would you tell your child if they asked this 3000 years ago?


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I’m definitely not throwing stones. I love hearing everyone’s views on these types of things. Beef, your takes are awesome and always worthy of my time and consideration. You’ve said some things in tha past that I’ve sat with on deep trips and I’ve always been appreciative of that.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme] * 1
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Good stuff. I didn't know you were educated in that way. I also get the cain & abel story mixed up with the one where the brother stole the blessing from his father by wearing an animal hide.

I'm Abel in all of this. An ignorant shepherd. Why? You said it. What am I going to do about it? And furthermore, why would I care? I have no legacy. My bloodline ends with me. All of my sibling are/were half siblings. So I'm going to herd my proverbial sheep and keep trying to find happiness. I'm not part of the solution. That's why you'll never hear me talk about any of this or complain one way or the other.

Is there anyone here who is giving themselves up to change any of the things that need changing or revolutionized? I doubt it beyond simple day to day courtesy and a "love your brother" mentality.

I enjoyed reading your response, beef. I'll be thinking about it while I'm at work tomorrow. This forum is really something special. Thanks for making my vision of the world a little more clear.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 2
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no i know youre not.  i can tell youre right there with it. i can tell youve struggled with the same questions.  i can tell you are open to blasphemy.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
realize that these metaphors were designed thousands of years ago to answer the SAME questions youre asking astro.

"why do the assyrians/greeks/romans/moores kill everyone and everything"

what would you tell your child if they asked this 3000 years ago?


I’ve asked similar questions to people over the years. Very interesting, indeed!

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend] * 1
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3500 years later and its still
the only real way to answer it:

"because they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. because theyre jealous of their brother. because we are in their way". 

like why are the israelis trying to exterminate the palestinians?

rinse and repeat.


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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Well put. The one thing I appreciate from my Catholic upbringing was the push to discover meaning in biblical texts rather than taking things at face value. Plus, there is a lot of good stuff in there. I’ve never thought to appreciate it from those angles, beef. Good stuff.

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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I sometimes wish we could put together some sort of retreat just for all us mush heads. Like, imagine 100 people from mush cult sitting around a bigass bonfire. Burning man be damned!!!

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Re: The Cultivation Confessional Booth - The Unofficial Cultivation Off Topic Discussion. [Re: BeefExtreme]
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This is at least twice I have noticed your mention of "blasphemy" in this conversation. If you have time to elaborate, what is your personal philosophy on blasphemy?


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