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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: gopher]
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gopher said:
gopher said:
imachavel said:
Charlie Kirk went neck to neck with some of the best debaters in the world



Maybe he did, I didn't watch any debates, cause debates are pointless, has there ever been a debate ever where someone said the other side had some good points, I think I'll change my position

We need more reflective listening which will increase empathy then debate which increases whatever the fuck it increases, ego maybe

I suck at reflective listening and I just learned about it, but I'm trying to make it apart of my program



gopher said:
imachavel said:
Charlie Kirk really stuck his neck out for a lot of people



I don't know if this is a dark joke or not 🤔




I'm slow



reflective listening is the same as critical thinking and introspection. everyone can do it. its just that most choose not to, because it makes life easier to not do that.

i have a brain that does it obsessively and i can't shut it off because i am mentally ill. trust me, it is hell.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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remake said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
Sulfurshelfsean said:
This is an every month thing in America. Last month the list was all Democrats and no one batted an eye lash.



That's not true. When Nancy Pelosi's husband almost got murdered with a hammer republicans laughed their asses off. They thought that was hilarious.

I have a video of that.
Has anyone got any evidence of any Democrats celebrating the assassination? Even a tiny little clip?



Depends on how you would view this. Some would say they are making commentary and not celebrating, but I think it is a point of debate if that is how you feel.

https://x.com/jebrafaushay/status/1966475602824774110?s=46

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1966568001752142291?s=46

https://x.com/artofmusic_/status/1967649240555180461?s=46

There's many like this. And a lot on tiktok.



The comparison was a video of Pete Hegseth and a Fox News anchor openly, laughing their asses off to a point where they could not communicate with each other anymore.

There shouldn't be any debate about whether or not somebody's laughing at an assassination or not. My example is a direct video of republicans laughing at an assassination attempt.

Republicans have claimed that Democrats are celebrating this assassination.

If that is true, show me evidence of it.
Because I have evidence of them, literally laughing at a assassination attempt. That is the level that you need to meet or exceed.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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remake said:
imachavel said:
Charlie Kirk really stuck his neck out for a lot of people



I might not give you the reaction you hope for tbh.

I won't get enraged. But I don't think it's funny :shrug:



Not a good time to lose one's head

That's not the way to get ahead in life

Too bad he wasn't more headstrong

He'll never be the head of a major corporation

"All right Austin that's enough let's go"

Can't blame me for trying :shrug:


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: gopher]
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gopher said:
imachavel said:
Charlie Kirk went neck to neck with some of the best debaters in the world



Maybe he did, I didn't watch any debates, cause debates are pointless, has there ever been a debate ever where someone said the other side had some good points, I think I'll change my position

We need more reflective listening which will increase empathy then debate which increases whatever the fuck it increases, ego maybe

I suck at reflective listening and I just learned about it, but I'm trying to make it apart of my program



That would definitely be Charlie's neck of the woods


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: trees] * 1
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trees said:
christopera said:
trees said:
christopera said:
"They" as in the political left, collectively got together and killed Charlie Kirk. The shooter had no agency, he was just a tool of the political left.

What don't guys get?



Whatever the he/him feminist pussies and the special needs trannie cat kids rhat you guys love so much, they identify as leftists



Has to be a blow to the ego when somebody so lesser slays your guy.



When a guy gets murdered for public debate and people like you think its good, its certainly a blow to my lived experience of sharing the same land and public spaces as you. Youd probably eat popcorn while watching your maga hat wearing uncle choke to death on your kitchen floor



No need to high road me or anybody else for that matter. I personally have been consistent in that I think it was wrong for the shooter to do what he did.

I however don't on one hand high road other posters and on the the other hand attribute to the murder to the left, fags, gays, queers, whatever nonsense you want to swing your holier than thou dick around about.

You are exactly the person you think you're trying to fight. Boohoo, Charlie said mean stuff about queers and trans people, he also advocated for gun violence and got popped. That's a fact. Deal with it.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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GenesisCorrupted said:
remake said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
Sulfurshelfsean said:
This is an every month thing in America. Last month the list was all Democrats and no one batted an eye lash.



That's not true. When Nancy Pelosi's husband almost got murdered with a hammer republicans laughed their asses off. They thought that was hilarious.

I have a video of that.
Has anyone got any evidence of any Democrats celebrating the assassination? Even a tiny little clip?



Depends on how you would view this. Some would say they are making commentary and not celebrating, but I think it is a point of debate if that is how you feel.

https://x.com/jebrafaushay/status/1966475602824774110?s=46

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1966568001752142291?s=46

https://x.com/artofmusic_/status/1967649240555180461?s=46

There's many like this. And a lot on tiktok.



The comparison was a video of Pete Hegseth and a Fox News anchor openly, laughing their asses off to a point where they could not communicate with each other anymore.

There shouldn't be any debate about whether or not somebody's laughing at an assassination or not. My example is a direct video of republicans laughing at an assassination attempt.

Republicans have claimed that Democrats are celebrating this assassination.

If that is true, show me evidence of it.
Because I have evidence of them, literally laughing at a assassination attempt. That is the level that you need to meet or exceed.



Okay, I understand. I have not really seen any famous person celebrating it openly. But I have seen the popular Youtuber Destiny commenting in ways that I, who does not have any skin in the game, find disrespectful - that is subjective, I know.

I think Charlie Kirk's murder is naturally getting a lot more attention because he actually died and was arguably much more famous / infamous than Nancy Pelosi.

One could argue that commentary on his death is much more calculated because of the high stakes.

I have no skin in the game. Them laughing at her is also fucking stupid, but I do admit I didn't even know about it.

What seperates this is precisely the fact that normal people and not the clowns and entertainers on the screen are doing the laughing - and this time it is actual death. Not injury.

The stakes are much higher.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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He also died in front of his children, his wife, a bunch of college kids. And the whole world. In dramatic vivid detail.

I found the video shocking and sickening.

It is not the same as laughing at Nancy Pelosi.

Does not make it right - but it is not the same.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake] * 1
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A great thing
about this whole thing
is that
a lot of asshats
now openly wear them.





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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Asante]
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If the assassin was from the Mid East he would have been a hashish user.

Kirk didn't like drugs,so possible.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: 1234go] * 1
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1234go said:
I didn't say anything about you being affiliated with the far right, but some of your talking points sure seem to lean that way.

Terrible things have been said, and done on both sides.
Media trolls might be cheering for more, but your average person is not.



Trees 100% knew who Charlie Kirk was prior to this, is 100% into manosphere shit.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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remake said:
Ice Nine said:
remake said:
Here's a video with an opposite attitude:



Dude was controversial for sure.

I just think it's not good for our minds and hearts to wish death on eachother, even those who wish death on us.

Self-defense is something different, but murdering someone who said something that stirs fear for what might happen in the future is not really self-defense, imo.



What are your thoughts on stochastic terrorism?



Difficult to pinpoint and prove without a doubt. Easy to defend by the perpetrators - not much to say other than hateful rhetoric seems to be a common thing these days (maybe it was always like this?) accross the world.

In my opinion, from all sides. Everyone thinks they have the absolute truth and the other is peddling the absolute lie.

God vs Satan.

Empathy vs Hate.

Maybe it's human nature. Maybe we'll meet up again, only to split at some other time.



I agree that pinpointing when speech becomes stochastic terrorism is very difficult and probably a bit dodgy regarding free speech.  That said, words have consequences, much more so when you have a giant megaphone.  When one shouts from the mountaintops things such as children's gun deaths being a prudent deal for a second amendment and what not, I would think one would accept the possibility of dying by the sword, since they professed to live by it.  :shrug:


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Ice Nine] * 2
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Jimmy is back !His show still sucks but free speech rules ! Fuck ya merica!


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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remake said:
He also died in front of his children, his wife, a bunch of college kids. And the whole world. In dramatic vivid detail.

I found the video shocking and sickening.

It is not the same as laughing at Nancy Pelosi.

Does not make it right - but it is not the same.



Just because you didn't see it does not mean it is not the same.

It was covered about as hard as charlie. 
Quote:
In October 2022, following the attack on Paul Pelosi, Elon Musk posted and later deleted a tweet that spread an unfounded conspiracy theory about the incident. The post was widely criticized for promoting misinformation shortly after Musk acquired Twitter, now X.
Details of the post
The tweet: In response to a tweet from Hillary Clinton about the attack, Musk wrote, "There is a tiny possibility there might be more to this story than meets the eye".
The link: Musk's tweet included a link to an article from the Santa Monica Observer, a website known for publishing false information.
The claim: The linked article put forth a baseless conspiracy theory that suggested a different motive for the attack, contradicting official police reports.
Deletion and impact: Musk deleted the tweet hours after posting it, but it had already been widely circulated, fueling further spread of the misinformation.



It was bad on the internet with members of beekeeping sites  I go to making up all kind of crap. 

Now you look at the video and tell me why, because paul polosi didn't die, it is not as bad as the kirk thing?  That is just sad.


Edited by gww (09/22/25 02:43 PM)

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Ice Nine]
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Ice Nine said:
1234go said:
I didn't say anything about you being affiliated with the far right, but some of your talking points sure seem to lean that way.

Terrible things have been said, and done on both sides.
Media trolls might be cheering for more, but your average person is not.



Trees 100% knew who Charlie Kirk was prior to this, is 100% into manosphere shit.




Like I posted earlier.  Liars lie.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: gww] * 1
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Okay, I agree.

That's fucked up too.

I got back on X in 2023 for our own national election drama

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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So anyway. what kind of music and do you play an instrument?  I know it is off topic but I am curious.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: gww]
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gww said:
So anyway. what kind of music and do you play an instrument?  I know it is off topic but I am curious.



I make electronic music on my computer using a midi keyboard.

I'm working on this one:


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake] * 1
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remake said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
Sulfurshelfsean said:
This is an every month thing in America. Last month the list was all Democrats and no one batted an eye lash.



That's not true. When Nancy Pelosi's husband almost got murdered with a hammer republicans laughed their asses off. They thought that was hilarious.

I have a video of that.
Has anyone got any evidence of any Democrats celebrating the assassination? Even a tiny little clip?



Depends on how you would view this. Some would say they are making commentary and not celebrating, but I think it is a point of debate if that is how you feel.

https://x.com/jebrafaushay/status/1966475602824774110?s=46

https://x.com/vigilantfox/status/1966568001752142291?s=46

https://x.com/artofmusic_/status/1967649240555180461?s=46

There's many like this. And a lot on tiktok.




Saw many like this when pelosi got attacked...


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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remake said:
He also died in front of his children, his wife, a bunch of college kids. And the whole world. In dramatic vivid detail.

I found the video shocking and sickening.

It is not the same as laughing at Nancy Pelosi.

Does not make it right - but it is not the same.



It is the same.... You're just moving goal posts dude. It's okay to say there are shitty Republicans, just like it's okay to say there are shitty Democrats.


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