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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Mystikal]
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Did you expect me to be polite about someone who dedicated his life to being the opposite, spreading hateful ideas and then played dumb when confronted about it just bc he was killed? Fuck that. He does not deserve that courtesy to say the least.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Bardy]
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Hey Crackbaby, I’m not trying to come across that way. I thought I’d have a go at shepherding a better conversation, that’s all.

I’m also not saying this is just an issue on the right. If you read all of my comments in this thread you’ll see that I say it’s a problem across the spectrum.

We need to meet each other half way. And we can start now if we want, or not. I get the feeling we’re not going to, and that’s just the way it is.


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Llamando la Mareacion

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: CrAcKbAbY]
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No one on the left does this because you cannot debate with someone whose beliefs are based solely on Christian fantasy, out right lies and their pathetic insecurities. But nice try cheech.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin]
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TXWoodWorkin said:
Hard to believe anyone that has actually done mushrooms and is on a site about doing them could ever even imagine backing Charlie Kirk or arguing that he should be alive. I don't think he should have been killed but I'm not going to waste an ounce of my own energy arguing against anyone that does. He was a piece of shit who was enthusiastically speading his harmful, toxic ideas to those who were younger and/or dumber. No question about it. And he did it for clicks and money. The lowest of the low in our society. The fact that he had a wife and children speaks to his lack of concern for them, not any fantasy of him being a "loving family man" If he would have just openly admitted he believed his wife should be on a literal leash and have no decision making abilities of her own then at least he would just be a dead piece of shit instead of a dead coward piece of shit.



Youre bein vague. You need to tell us how you really feel.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: lowbrow]
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Lol.  I say what I mean the first time. No deceit or bullshit like you get from MAGAt coward morons.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin]
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Let’s see more of this division folks, it’s really uplifting for us all.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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remake said:
I was not a fan of his necessarrily nor did I think he was some kind of extremist.

But I have watched numerous videos of his debates over the past few years.

I did not perceive him as being devisive.

He held on to his Christian beliefs and defended his positions in debate form with an open mic available to anyone who opposed him.

I am agnostic. I don't believe religion should be mixed with politics.

Still, his debates and the way he carried them out seemed genuine enough and not divisive as many are portraying it.

I have yet to find actual fully in context videos where he is outright spewing hate towards another individual.



I was amazed how patient he was and he always tried to find common ground.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: lowbrow]
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Then again, you're the type of person that would make someone like Pol Pot your avatar. Whether you actually support him and the atrocities he committed or just did it to bc you thought it was funny/ironic or whatever moronic reason, your input is proof of the existence of invalid opinions that have no value in any way.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin]
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:lolsy:You're on a roll dude, keep goin.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Bardy]
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You can't be a divisive piece of shit like Charlie Kirk and then be upset when there's a divide in the population and their beliefs that you helped make possible in the first place.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin]
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It's the responsibility of every adult individual themselves to decide where the dividing line is.

The division is in our minds.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: lowbrow]
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Anytime. Making worthless morons stfu and look like the brainless cunts they are is the essence of life after all.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin] * 1
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you wouldn't happen to be enlil's puppet, would you?


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin]
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TXWoodWorkin said:
Anytime. Making worthless morons stfu and look like the brainless cunts they are is the essence of life after all.



Hearing opposing viewpoints and debating them without threatening lives or name calling is an extremely important part of becoming a well-rounded person.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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No, it's real, happening in the real world and it's killing people in real-time. This is not some imaginary bullshit you came up with while shrooming you fucking infant. Grow up.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: lowbrow]
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Quote:
Charlie Kirk was widely regarded as a polarizing political activist, and assessments of his honesty were mixed and often partisan. Multiple reputable sources found that Kirk promoted conspiracy theories, false information, and misleading claims during his career, calling his honesty into question.

History of Misleading Claims

Kirk was known for promoting COVID-19 misinformation and false claims about the 2020 U.S. presidential election, including arguments about widespread voter fraud that were repeatedly contradicted by independent fact-checkers and eventually retracted or moderated by Kirk himself.

Kirk also amplified other debunked narratives, such as misstatements about George Floyd's death and climate change denial, sometimes later issuing corrections when confronted by fact-checking organizations.

Reports from both mainstream and critical outlets documented numerous instances where Kirk would recant, contradict, or clarify previous statements when pressed for facts, sometimes admitting to sarcasm or "repeating what he'd been told" instead of offering direct evidence.

Public Image and Reputation

Kirk's supporters credited him for mobilizing conservative youth and for his unwavering loyalty to the MAGA movement, but neither supporters nor critics typically described him as a model of honesty—rather, most described him as an effective partisan organizer.

His organization, Turning Point USA, became involved in controversial campaigns such as "watchlists" of left-leaning professors, which were widely criticized for manipulation and selective presentation of information.

Kirk repeatedly faced accusations of hypocrisy or ambiguity from critics and fact-checkers, especially regarding changes in his public statements or positions on controversial topics.



This is a summary by Perplexity AI. It’s not placed here as a declaration of fact about anything, but it should serve as something to provoke thought about the person who was murdered.

A Christian, going around pushing strongly conservative and Christian values with not much regard for facts doesn’t sound like someone who was honestly and openly trying to find the common ground (this is from multiple sources, not just this AI quote I’ve posted). Add that to the fact that he tried to mislead people into thinking the election was stolen and everything else…

It’s gonna be difficult, if not impossible for you, especially Christian folk, to see this nuance, but it’s not going away.

Honestly and openly trying to find common ground is different from pushing your own beliefs on people through political means, which is unfortunately what Charlie Kirk did, and is what led to him being shot.

It’s a sad state of affairs.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin] * 1
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TXWoodWorkin said:
No, it's real, happening in the real world and it's killing people in real-time. This is not some imaginary bullshit you came up with while shrooming you fucking infant. Grow up.



I enjoy the name calling and am impressed with how quickly you can summarize a total stranger.

Please don't kill me though.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: Bardy] * 1
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Whether he was factual with his arguments or not.

There was an open mic available for anyone to debate him.

The goal of debate is not necessarily to sway your opponent to your side but to test and challenge eachothers worldviews.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: TXWoodWorkin]
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TXWoodWorkin said:
You can't be a divisive piece of shit like Charlie Kirk and then be upset when there's a divide in the population and their beliefs that you helped make possible in the first place.



He was engaging people from an opposing idealogy to engage in a dialog allowing them time to speak without interruption and would explain his side, then would attempt to find common ground. That is the opposite of divisive.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot and killed... [Re: remake]
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The hateful and dangerous policies enacted by the current administration are not just "viewpoints". They are the same as a bully blaming the person they're bullying for them bullying them except they can and have had deadly consequences for a lot of people. Being a cowardly bitch who lashes out at the majority of society bc they don't agree with you is not a point of view and shouldn't be given the same consideration just bc they face well-deserved backlash and anger. It's still just whiny ass, spineless cowards slithering along, trying to remain relevant and in control of anyone that isn't themselves like they always do.

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