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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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I'm getting my omicron booster tonight, I need to get the flu shot so I'll probably just get them both together. My 5G reception has been feeling pretty weak lately so hopefully this helps

30 out of 70 residents in one of the ALF's that I work out of have COVID right now, they're almost all 80+ and some of them are on hospice. If this was 2 years ago it would have been a war zone, now with all residents vaccinated plus paxlovid and omicron being weaker pretty much everyone is just chilling.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: feevers]
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Missed opportunity if you didnt have your Hep B already, theres a combi shot for a few bucks more.

Also check if your tetanus cocktail is up to date, though i think it would be.

getting tetanus is not that weird, like a scrape wound on the pavement, but its a horrible and fatal disease if you cant get hospital care in time. People cramp to death.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
I went to the clinic to pick up my prescription for PReP and I told them I like to lick buttholes and they wrangled me into getting a hepatitis A vaccine so now I have had three vaccines in a month.

BTW, Truvada is now a generic medicine in the US and the federal government has ruled that it is part of preventive care under Obamacare which means that it is totally free under all insurance plans.



This is quality ifo, for those who enjoy licking but holes.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Yeatster] * 2
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What kind of fucking degenerate doesn’t lick buttholes.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
What kind of fucking degenerate doesn’t lick buttholes.




someone who doesnt identify as a fucking degenerate?




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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
What kind of fucking degenerate doesn’t lick buttholes.




I keep trying, but my lady is hesitant about the butts-stuffz

:shrug:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
What kind of fucking degenerate doesn’t lick buttholes.



One in a face mask.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Leck Mich Im Arsch



Grimm's fairy tales were originally like this, and so were my grandparents on both sides.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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Mozart mischief "lick me in my asshole" composition that sounds like male merriment :P


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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Someone will say that I am digressing. (Probably, someone who will not click on the links and movies, to know what I am talking about.)

None of the traditional people in my life were literally traditional. So no one should assume that I am giving these criticisms as the result of a conservative upbringing.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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The election and diehard following of Trump through all its debacles showed thar not monogamous fidelity but being a slutty unprincipled money whore is a conservative value.

its the lefties that are idealists about social values like finding that one woman and treating her good all her life, rightwingers grab em by the pussy at coke fueled decandence parties then buy em off the day after.

Jesus was a leftie, the reason the christians vote rightwing is because its foretold that in the end days the devil has overtaken the religion and they will alkl fall for the antichrist because they know not whats right anymore.

being sexually virtuous is traditional in the sense that its customary in many social animal species, its not politically partisan.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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I don't consider him or his appointees apt examples of patriarchy.

In practice, there are no conservatives.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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Quote:
What kind of fucking degenerate doesn’t lick buttholes.






It's the one thing all men can or should agree on.


The to be fair It's very low on my priority list these days

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted] * 1
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"Controversial new research suggests SARS-CoV-2 bears signs of genetic engineering"

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"Alex Washburne is a mathematical biologist who runs Selva, a small startup in microbiome science based in New York. He is an outsider, although he has worked in the past on virological modelling as a researcher at Montana State University. For this study, Dr Washburne collaborated with two other scientists. One is Antonius VanDongen, an associate professor of pharmacology at Duke University, in North Carolina. The other, Valentin Bruttel, is a molecular immunologist at the University of Würzburg, Germany. Dr Washburne and Dr VanDongen have been active proponents of an investigation into the lab-leak theory.

The trio base their claim on a novel method of detecting plausibly lab-engineered viruses. Their analysis, published on October 20th on bioRxiv, a preprint server, suggests sars-cov-2 has some genomic features that they say would appear if the virus had been stitched together by some form of genetic engineering. By examining how many of these putative stitching sites sars-cov-2 has, and how relatively short these pieces are, they attempt to assess how much the virus resembles others found in nature."




Scientists since the beginning of the pandemic have disagreed about whether COVID had a natural or lab origin. There was a vigorous debate from people who spent their lives studying viruses. According to Fauci, a meeting held to discuss the lab leak among top scientists resulted in no definitive conclusions (says Fauci, "It was a very productive back-and-forth conversation where some on the call felt it could possibly be an engineered virus").

A few new studies recently leaned towards a natural origin in a wet market. Now, this new research seemed to lean towards a lab leak. Most questions remain unanswered, and we don't have most of the data needed to make an assessment. It is yet to be peer reviewed but could open the way to similar research. The article contains a number of responses from scientists about the idea, some in support, some cautious and curious, some against.

Last time I posted about this, koods suggested it was a conspiracy and should be banished from the thread. But isn't it funny? Koods has no training in genetics and viruses. These scientists who are experts in genes are now disagreeing with koods. So at the very least, shouldn't you admit we should hear from these people who spent their lives studying this? This thread is for discussing all the science, not just the science you like personally.

It appears we can know for sure if this is true or not by further study, if they find these features in a natural virus. So science can solve this.

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Any conclusion that sars-cov-2 was engineered will be hotly contested. China denies the virus came from a Chinese lab, and has asked for investigations into whether it may have originated in America. Dr Washburne and his colleagues say their predictions are testable. If a progenitor genome to sars-cov-2 is found in the wild with restriction sites that are the same, or intermediate, it would raise the chances that this pattern evolved by chance.




The claim that covid had signs of being engineered was made before by other scientists - the earliest claim I've seen is that made by Norwegian virologist Birger Sorensen in May 2020, who argued that the furin cleavage site on COVID was evidence it was engineered.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: CreonAntigone]
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The trio base their claim on a novel method of detecting plausibly lab-engineered viruses.



Have they tested this method or are we just supposed to assume it actually works


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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Covid escaped from a lab, why wouldn't it have engineered points


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For most of the normies out there, an operating system is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.

And I don't know what the mantis is praying for
But he's probably just thanking the Lord
That he don't live in a home
And he don't got a phone
And he don't sit around all angry and bored
(He's just a bug)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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The trio base their claim on a novel method of detecting plausibly lab-engineered viruses.



koods said:
Have they tested this method or are we just supposed to assume it actually works



Computer modeling.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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And is the modeling accurate? Where is the study that tests the model?


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
And is the modeling accurate? Where is the study that tests the model?



Th model definitely isn't confirmed. It's a new computational method that seems to be more exploratory in nature. We can't say for sure if they've accurately identified any signs of engineering yet. They're just identifying areas of the genome that should be further studied.

The test of the model would be in whether the features that they identify really are unique to COVID and not found in natural sources - in the observational data.

The economist article cites a number of scientists who find the story interesting, but one who rejects the conclusion, Edward Holmes, says these features are not abnormal. If he's right, it would provide more evidence of a natural origin instead.

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But Edward Holmes, an evolutionary biologist and virologist at the University of Sydney, said that every one of the features identified by the paper was natural and already found in other bat viruses. If someone were engineering a virus they would undoubtedly introduce some new ones. He added, “there are a whole range of technical reasons why this is complete nonsense.”





So I think this experimental method will be seen to be credible or not if we can identify the progenitor viruses that suggest these particular changes came about naturally. If they couldn't find this in any natural virus before covid? It would suggest the model is credible. It can be tested. Let's see if Edward Holmes can identify a natural pre-covid virus with these same features.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
And is the modeling accurate? Where is the study that tests the model?



That's what we said.

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