Are people still going on about the "untested" vaccine?

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durian_2008 said:

Whatever is our ideology, whatever was supposed to go on the blank safety data sheet, whatever would have turned up in the normal review process, you took the we-know-not-what, based on your faith, politics, or subjective worldview. No matter who turns out to be right.

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I do agree with you here.

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BREAKING: European Parliament MEP calls EU Covid vaccine purchases “biggest CORRUPTION SCANDAL in history”
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/10/12/breaking-european-parliaments-mislav-kolakusic-calls-eus-covid-vaccine-purchases-biggest-corruption-scandal-in-history/

"no one in the world except maybe two or three people, knows what it contains.'

“This is about secrets, protected patents.”

“Don’t think that any kind of government or European agency knows exactly what is in that product,” he continued.

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durian_2008 said:

Without any flying spaghetti monsters, this is enough.

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BREAKING: European Parliament MEP calls EU Covid vaccine purchases “biggest CORRUPTION SCANDAL in history”
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/10/12/breaking-european-parliaments-mislav-kolakusic-calls-eus-covid-vaccine-purchases-biggest-corruption-scandal-in-history/

"no one in the world except maybe two or three people, knows what it contains.'

“This is about secrets, protected patents.”

“Don’t think that any kind of government or European agency knows exactly what is in that product,” he continued.

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... member of the European Parliament, Rob Roos, asked during a session:

    Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market? Did we know about stopping immunization before it entered the market?”

Pfizer’s Janine Small, president of international developed markets, said in response:

    “No … You know, we had to … really move at the speed of science to know what is taking place in the market.”

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Koch's postulates are the following:

    The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
    The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
    The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
    The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.

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durian_2008 said:

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Koch's postulates are the following:

    The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
    The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
    The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
    The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.

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Regarding postulate 1, the microorganism in question will result in false positives after enough PCR amplifications.

Regarding postulate 2, David Baltimore, of furin cleavage point notoriety, could not describe how viral material would be isolated and purified in video, which I posted, here.

No one in this discussion, here, can demonstrate any knowledge beyond rote compliance.

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So now your argument is that we can't prove that SARS-CoV-2 causes COVID-19

feevers said:

Listen, not a single person knows the ingredient list of these experimental vaccines except for the people that have googled it. This is proof of the heinous conspiracy between Google and Big Pharma. When will the LIES and CORRUPTION end?...The data from the original vaccine trials, as well as countless government/university/independent research studies since then have been public for like 2 years now.

It's pretty hilarious watching attention-seeking public officials openly screaming about how uniformed they are, while the antivaxx hoard gobbles up every word of it and demands more.

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FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years to Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data

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FDA asks for 55 years to complete FOIA request on Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine

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Federal Judge Tells FDA it Must Make Public 55,000 Pages a Month of Pfizer Vaccine Data

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Regarding postulate 1, the microorganism in question will result in false positives after enough PCR amplifications.

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The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.

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Regarding postulate 2, David Baltimore, of furin cleavage point notoriety, could not describe how viral material would be isolated and purified in video, which I posted, here.

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The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.

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No regrets.

durian_2008 said:

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... member of the European Parliament, Rob Roos, asked during a session:

    Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market? Did we know about stopping immunization before it entered the market?”

Pfizer’s Janine Small, president of international developed markets, said in response:

    “No … You know, we had to … really move at the speed of science to know what is taking place in the market.”

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Koch's postulates are the following:

    The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
    The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
    The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
    The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.

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Regarding postulate 1, the microorganism in question will result in false positives after enough PCR amplifications.

Regarding postulate 2, David Baltimore, of furin cleavage point notoriety, could not describe how viral material would be isolated and purified in video, which I posted, here.

No one in this discussion, here, can demonstrate any knowledge beyond rote compliance.

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durian_2008 said:

feevers said:

Listen, not a single person knows the ingredient list of these experimental vaccines except for the people that have googled it. This is proof of the heinous conspiracy between Google and Big Pharma. When will the LIES and CORRUPTION end?...The data from the original vaccine trials, as well as countless government/university/independent research studies since then have been public for like 2 years now.

It's pretty hilarious watching attention-seeking public officials openly screaming about how uniformed they are, while the antivaxx hoard gobbles up every word of it and demands more.

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FDA Says It Now Needs 75 Years to Fully Release Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Data

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FDA asks for 55 years to complete FOIA request on Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine

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Federal Judge Tells FDA it Must Make Public 55,000 Pages a Month of Pfizer Vaccine Data

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Also, conspiracy is an entry in the legal dictionary.

What kind of attention do conspiracy theorists get? Fined $2500 and a billion dollars.

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And if you google the reason why, it's because the branch of the FDA that processes FOIA requests has 10 employees and is currently processing 400+ requests, with new requests that come in every day and can take years to complete. Data from clinical trials in America require extensive redaction due to HIPAA and privacy laws, there were like 44,000 pfizer participants who each have an entire chart worth of information that needs redaction.

An under-funded government program is not somehow evidence of a pharmaceutical conspiracy, it's just how america functions. If you weren't playing dumb (I assume it's playing?), you'd acknowledge the endless data we have on the efficacy of the vaccines, and the extent of the original pfizer trials published.

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What kind of attention do conspiracy theorists get? Fined $2500 and a billion dollars.

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Really?

Being a conspiracy theorist has been the most profitable grift on the internet for the last 2 and half years. There are countless nobodies who got huge and rich just by being brave enough to lie to people about covid and contribute to hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths, and they get worshipped by the antixax death cult:

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As far as I can tell, you started by posting a reasonable question about a vaccine given a satisfying answer, then posted some rules from the 1800s that can be used to identify some pathogens that cause some diseases

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Was the new method pcr testing, and do you think that testers speak excellent English?

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Are you able to hold down a job?

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durian_2008 said:

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Are you able to hold down a job?

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They are.

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feevers said:

Not just covid, germ theory itself is fake as fuck bro.

Think about it, when's the last time you actually saw a germ?

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durian_2008 said:

do you think that testers speak excellent English?

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feevers said:

Are you able to hold down a job?

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durian_2008 said:

They are.

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As far as I can tell, you started by posting a reasonable question about a vaccine given a satisfying answer, then posted some rules from the 1800s that can be used to identify some pathogens that cause some diseases

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