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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
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Are you talking about when I said I wonder what their reasoning for not getting the vax is ?

Because your quotation has nothing to do with it

The article mentioned fears of fertility as a potential cause but I was saying I'd be interested to hear from the people quitting about their reasoning.

So idk why you even made that post besides being overly emotional

You think I care if you think I'm a tard?

I don't.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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:lol:

You're funny. Are you having a temper tantrum


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Ya you fucking idiot. You say I wonder what made them leave, insinuating the nurses were leaving because of the mandate, kind of like the title.

But the nurses didn't leave because of the mandate, the nurses won't work because their jobs cut cut bad because of fucking idiots like you who for one won't get the vaccine and it's destroying out medical system, and two are aggressive and disrespectful the the people in the hospitals because your so full of conspiracy and iggnorance.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
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I've done neither of those things

Idk if you're reading the wrong article or what the deal is

The article specifically says they left because of vax mandates

Either way idc about dealing with your antics


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
    #27465056 -

Fear of fertility? Where....?

This is from the childbirth ward article. Where 14 people as dumb as you resigned, probably because some idiot like you worked their and polluted easily influenced minds.

"No labor means no labor.

Lewis County General Hospital in Lowville, NY, will temporarily stop delivering babies, after maternity-ward employees quit rather than be forced to get the COVID-19 vaccine, according to reports.

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Six employees in the unit resigned over the vaccine mandate, and another seven are undecided about getting the shot, the county health system’s CEO, Gerald Cayer, said Friday, according to WWNY.
“If we can pause the service and now focus on recruiting nurses who are vaccinated, we will be able to reengage in delivering babies here in Lewis County,” he said, according to the station.
Cayer said 27 percent of the hospital’s workers — 165 employees — haven’t gotten the shot.
The state has ordered all health-care workers in New York to get their first shot by Sept. 27 or face termination. After the August announcement by former governor Andrew Cuomo 30 hospital workers resigned.


And it also doesn't clarify that those last 30 were in the same hospital. That could be all of newyork.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
    #27465059 -

Oh you meant the first article.

Right here.

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Rumors on social media caused some young women to fear that the mRNA vaccines such as those made by Pfizer Inc. and Moderna Inc. could affect their fertility. That’s not true. But it’s a worry that’s taken firm hold in some circles, even after the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists said publicly that there is no evidence the vaccine harms fertility.


So that was your point?

Good job bud.

In the trashcan.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
    #27465063 -

Maybe go take a chill pill and let your mind level out

There are two articles there

I understand most people here don't like me because I don't agree with their view and voice it

:shrug:

I'll throw all your posts in the garbage as well mr. garbage man


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27465064 -

Enkidu said:
:lol:

You're funny. Are you having a temper tantrum


Ya think

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Yeatster]
    #27465071 -

I can't be frustrated? I'm sorry ya lil baby boys never heard a bad word b4, I'm sowwy. Let me change your little dipey poo.

If your response is that I'm frustrated so be it .Ide rather be a little upset, and let me say it again, more so I'm disappointed, than fucking stupid.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
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I'd guess they aren't obese, no pre-existing health conditions, young, and they want to have kids, and obviously there is no long term research on fertility issues.

That might have something to do with their choice as opposed to they are just stupid.

Maybe they have already had covid.

Maybe it's something else.

I don't really know why those people will quit even if the article offers THEIR potential reasoning including why it shouldn't be a worry.

But apparently the people not getting vaxed don't trust the people telling us what to do. And even some people who are getting vaxed don't trust them either.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27465104 -

That's nice that you have multiple business one of which you don't pay taxes on. I'm happy for you.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Maybe isn't what I like to build believes on, or even have small talk about. Esspecially such a negative, highly impact full, uneducated maybe.
For what?

Maybe someday my dick grows to be 12', maybe I win the lottery, Maybe I fall off a cliff, maybe I trip and drown in a puddle.

Maybe we should write a story about every couple dozen people that decide to do THINGS!
  :hewut:



For someone whose so convinced convinced maybe I don't see why you wouldn't understand that MAYBE, this mandate is actually the efforts of years long bipartisan contributions for the worldwide superpowers to MAYBE get everyone with that "hate the government which has done us so wrong"(which I agree with) mentality, to willingfully reject the vaccine, therefore in the long run KILLING THEMSELVES.
I think that's more likely that whatever reasoning you have for whatever the fuck it is you believe in that causes you to malfunction so.

Your maybes have no conclusion. Your maybe point to the vaccine being the problem when that's all you have, is maybe, when clearly plenty of studies advocate for the vaccine.

My question is has the government succeeded in trying to eliminate people like you? Almost maybe. Now whether or not they're doing this intentionally, idk, but this seems to be as true as the fact the vaccine is the best thing we got to fight this battle you seem to want to lose....


But mores why would the government want to get rid of a bunch of incapable tards...? Maybe they thought all the smart psychadelic warriors were like you, but instead they are much better informed than they thought. And the avid psychadelic users/modern shamans are actually well too aware of what's going on. I use the psychadelic shamans as an example because they tend to be so truly aware of the world and capable to make changes, the govs worst nightmare. But instead the attacks go forth to the more conservative. Notice how one of your articles focus is in Texas, not surprising. Because most "conservatives" are tied to the past, and tend to have the incapabilites to adhere to changes, hence the name. And this mandate is a change, esspecially when it comes from a Democrat president. And it's crazy how this has become political, and it so sadly is. Most of my family is conservative, qnd more than a vaccine, more than a mandate, the last thing they want is to take orders from "sleepy joe"

Well I'll I'll you what, all politics are a scam, and if you don't think the left and right big wigs don't work together to enslave me and you, your nuts.

And I think as much as the left can be associated with liberalism and "modernism", non rural communities and all it has to offer, I think conservativeism and the republican mindset has alot to offer, maybe even more in a primal since

Maybe it's natural selection and your just that stupid and your are not the fittest survivor, but the least worthy of mercy...


My point is, when you say "the people telling us what to do", I don't know if your talking about Joe, or if you think Trump would have been better, or if you think anyone in the fed gov gives a shit about you. But I don't think it makes a difference at all. You should be looking at research from unbiased providers.

But based on every post you've made, you clearly can't do that.

Not mad, just dissapointed.
:billythumbdown:.




You should be fucking happy for me, it's alot of work. And for every dollar I don't pay in taxes I give at least 1 back to the community. Not in the form of currency, but I think you feel me. And really that's more like a non profit. All proceeds go back into the business to make more donations.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33]
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That was why I said I was curious what their reasoning is.

So i didn't need to speculate.

Unlike you, I actually want to understand what's going on.

To be honest, I wasn't able to read the entirety of that post.

Me saying I was happy for you was genuine.

I don't like seeing people struggle.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27465130 -

Enkidu said:
Funny koods, because I actually don't lie or make things up.

You called me a liar when I called you out on something you said (a lie)




I didn’t say what you claim I said.


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
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Enkidu said:
That was why I said I was curious what their reasoning is.

So i didn't need to speculate.

Unlike you, I actually want to understand what's going on.

To be honest, I wasn't able to read the entirety of that post.

Me saying I was happy for you was genuine.

I don't like seeing people struggle.



I dont think you can be curious without speculating, you, not everyone, you. All you do is jump to conclusions. And don't say you don't speculate because the two links you posted after that clearly you were trying to correlate and form a point.

It just never formed.


If you actually wanted to understand you would read things and form opinions.

Instead of posting click bait from mainstream media sites.

Endookie: "I don't trust the government mannn"

Endookie: "look what the new York and Washington post is saying mannn."

Fucking lol. You make me sick.

Edited by QM33 (09/12/21 09:53 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Enkidu]
    #27465166 -

Enkidu said:
That was why I said I was curious what their reasoning is.

So i didn't need to speculate.

Unlike you, I actually want to understand what's going on.

To be honest, I wasn't able to read the entirety of that post.

Me saying I was happy for you was genuine.

I don't like seeing people struggle.


Their reasoning varies but always results from some combination of neuroticism and poor cognition.

I can tell you this: I work on a unit in a particular big city hospital that is highly prestigious. Not saying this to brag, but to help illustrate a point. All of the people I work with are very bright. All of them are highly educated. And all of them got vaccinated by choice.

Anyone can go to some bumfuck community college or private "pay for a degree" school and slap the letters RN behind their name. As long as you keep your license up, which is very easy to do, you can call yourself a nurse. You don't even have to be working as a nurse- you don't even have to be working at all. A LOT of RNs are not working as RNs anymore. To confuse matters further, a lot of people lump unlicensed staff (CNAs, UAPs) in with nurses because they honestly couldn't tell you what differentiates one from the other in terms of what their job actually consists of. Or maybe they work some clinic job that doesn't require critical thinking.

There is no mass exodus from nursing. People burn out of the field at a fast rate. That has been true for a long time. Nurses have been quitting due to poor working conditions that exist in for-profit medical facilities.

I can assure you that the few "nurses" who did not get vaccinated and lost their jobs, wherever they are, will not be missed. They can go be journalists or whatever other kind of job neurotic people are well suited to

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
Nurses have been quitting due to poor working conditions that exist in for-profit medical facilities.


The medical facility in question is non-profit.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Yeatster] * 2
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Yeatster said:
morrowasted said:
Nurses have been quitting due to poor working conditions that exist in for-profit medical facilities.


The medical facility in question is non-profit.


I'm just going to be forthright with you and say that I'm not going to look into any of the details of this because I genuinely don't believe I need to in order to make a judgment call. There is no "interesting reason" that nurses are quitting because they don't want to get vaccinated. They're not privy to any secret information.  More than likely most of them are part of conservative religious social circles outside of work. These are not the kind of people who went into nursing because they had a curiosity about biology, physiology, infectious disease etc

I guess the simplest way to say it is that some people who are born into cults (southern baptist churches, pentecostal Churches, Churches of Christ, Jehovah's witness, Mormons etc) just happened to decide to go into nursing. And they just happened to have found a job where they can get by without really knowing jack shit about medicine and disease. And these people are just doing exactly what one would expect them to do

Edited by morrowasted (09/12/21 10:56 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted] * 2
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I'm still amazed all these people keep fishing for a reason to not take the vaccine when they refuse to acknowledge the plethora of reasons to take it. It's a pretty clear demonstration that they can't be trusted to make their own decisions. I'm hoping young children get approval pretty soon, and then school mandates for vaccination get put in place so the kids don't have to suffer because their parents are negligent jackasses. The time for people to have the chance to make good choices has pretty much come and gone at this point. Now they need to do the right thing whether they chose to or not.

Enkidu's a great example of why reason, explanation, and addressing concerns won't promote vaccination on a large enough scale. Just look how resistant she is to changing her mind in response to reasonable arguments, even admitting she's not being reasonable (pretty insightful actually). We all spent a lot of time reasoning with her, and it didn't change her vaccination status, which is the only meaningful thing that will change outcomes for the pandemic. Way too many people aren't interested in any information or understanding that doesn't support or develop support for their position. They don't want to learn while they feel their beliefs are being challenged and aren't willing to follow through with the reason and change their minds, they just want to feel validated while they rebel and will only use information to help them avoid feeling shame and guilt. Enkidu's whole decision making process is dominated by fear, paranoia, and defense mechanisms, and there is no way to use those to encourage reasonable decision making without exercising authority to limit the freedom of bad decision making. If people are afraid of things caused by the pandemic, then they should make a choice that will stop the spread of the disease to curtail that fear, and they're ding the exact opposite of that. It's time to lay down the law and stop this shit. It's not possible to be free with an uncontrolled pandemic threatening the country, and we right now we need laws mandating vaccination to protect our freedom as much as our safety. If people sincerely want to understand things to inform reasonable understanding and decision making, then they can struggle through it in their leisure time after they've gotten vaccinated.

EDIT: uh, I meant "he" not "she". not sure why I had it in my head that enkidu's a girl. my bad.

Edited by Mr.GuessWork (09/12/21 01:03 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: QM33] * 1
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QM33 said:
Maybe if you read it you would know you fucking tard.



QM33 said:
Ya you fucking idiot.



:ban:

Enkidu, too...please.

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