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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: JohnnyTripsAlot] * 1
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JohnnyTripsAlot said:
Everything about this is wrong. So blatantly wrong. I know there is no way you believe this and yet you still spew this garbage.  You are the worst type of human and I genuinely hope the universe sends you some type of karma you POS.

your sentences: assertion. Same Assertion. Assertion. Attempted insult.

At least put in a little effort

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus]
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longbus said:
Even just using terms like "antivaxer" pushes the us vs. them mentality which causes strife and hate where it isn't necessary. If this is you "not caring" then you have a funny grasp on the English language...


Koods, why do you have such hatred for the vaccinatedly challenged? The differently non vaccinated? The unvaxxed patriots of Amerika?

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Drug Lord]
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This man is just playing word games

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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Koods wrong again


https://abcnews.go.com/Health/youre-waiting-herd-immunity-covid-19-time-move/story?id=84910302

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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What about that article conflicts with anything I’ve said?

Pretty much sums up everything I’ve been saying


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/04/22 12:09 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods] * 1
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:haha: everyone thinks you're a loser


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never 4get!


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus] * 2
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longbus said:
:haha: everyone thinks you're a loser


You definitely seem like a bigger loser to me than he does :shrug:

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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Klaus Schwab Issues THREAT to Brazilian President for Refusing to Sign WHO Pandemic Treaty
https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/klaus-schwab-issues-threat-to-brazilian-president-for-refusing-to-sign-who-pandemic-treaty

One of the alt explanations for wars in recent generations was that the other side's dictators on the other side of the world were doing good work. Irrigating their continent, creating high living standards, pulling out of Western banking and energy -- like the East bloc (aka BRICS) pulling out of the global health regime.

It's interesting to consider the actual justifications for war, around war anniversaries.


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WEF defector.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/shit-burgers-meat-made-from-human-feces-just-another-natela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upload_(TV_series)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted] * 1
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morrowasted said:
longbus said:
:haha: everyone thinks you're a loser


You definitely seem like a bigger loser to me than he does :shrug:


lol you're loser #2 so that makes sense

:haha:


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never 4get!


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: longbus] * 1
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It's almost like you're trying as hard as you can to appear developmentally stunted. I guess the alternative is that you just actually are that stunted.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: morrowasted]
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a short person


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WEF defector.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/shit-burgers-meat-made-from-human-feces-just-another-natela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upload_(TV_series)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008] * 1
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Plenty of assholes aren't losers. I don't like assholes. I have a mostly neutral disposition towards losers.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
What about that article conflicts with anything I’ve said?

Pretty much sums up everything I’ve been saying




"Although herd immunity through widespread vaccination can be a successful strategy for certain viruses, such as those that cause smallpox and polio, scientists no longer consider it an appropriate management strategy for the virus that causes COVID-19, these experts said."



Paragraph or three later:


"But herd immunity depends on some hidden assumptions. First, that resistant people stay resistant. Second, that resistant (or vaccinated) people cannot transmit the virus. Scientists learned over the past two years that these assumptions do not hold for COVID-19."



"Chiefly, immunity wanes relatively quickly, and vaccinated people can still transmit the virus, especially when confronted with rapidly evolving new variants."



"Rarely does a vaccine offer total and complete protection against infection. On the one hand, tetanus shots can stay durable for over 30 years. But for COVID-19, both infection- and vaccine-induced immunity wanes over time."




Goes against everything you've been saying for well over a month,  including your recent lies about herd immunity in relation to covid.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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I said nothing about herd immunity. I said covid isnt a big deal anymore because almost everyone has aquired immunity. I’ve been saying for years that covid will end up being another coronavirus cold virus. You’ll be able to catch it every few years. Getting more people vaccinated at this point won’t have much public health benefit, but it certainly is appropriate for someone who is seronegative or for people who want short term protection against infection.

herd immunity effects are the main dynamic behind covid waves. Aside from the first wave which ended because of the lockdowns, all subsequent waves end when there aren’t enough people susceptible to getting infected to sustain positive growth.  That’s herd immunity.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/04/22 08:54 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
I said nothing about herd immunity. I said covid isnt a big deal anymore because almost everyone has aquired immunity. I’ve been saying for years that covid will end up being another coronavirus cold virus. You’ll be able to catch it every few years. Getting more people vaccinated at this point won’t have much public health benefit, but it certainly is appropriate for someone who is seronegative or for people who want short term protection against infection.

herd immunity effects are the main dynamic behind covid waves. Aside from the first wave which ended because of the lockdowns, all subsequent waves end when there aren’t enough people susceptible to getting infected to sustain positive growth.  That’s herd immunity.





"Rarely does a vaccine offer total and complete protection against infection. On the one hand, tetanus shots can stay durable for over 30 years. But for COVID-19, both infection- and vaccine-induced immunity wanes over time.

When you get a vaccine, it induces two types of immune response," Dr. Paul Offit, Director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, told ABC News. "One response is to make antibodies, which last three to six months. Antibodies can protect against even mild disease."

Antibodies are proteins that bind to virus particles to inactivate them. They also help prevent people from transmitting the active virus to others since they can bind the virus before it gets to someone new.

Antibody-based immunity against mild disease wanes after three to six months. However, immunity against severe disease remains because of the second immune response.

The second response is to make memory B and T cells, which are longer-lived," Offit said.

Memory cells tend to lay dormant and need a trigger before they start generating antibodies.

The virus that causes COVID-19 has a short incubation period. Most infected people become contagious within the first few days, long before memory cells activate to make antibodies.

Since memory cells eventually act about two weeks in, infections typically won't progress beyond mild illness. But by then, many folks will have transmitted the virus to others."

Edited by Tulipslave (06/04/22 11:35 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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Did you even read the article I linked?


The point is Covid is not over. It's ignorant to think otherwise.

The vaccines wear off. Vaccines would be needed every 6 months to keep major health/hospitalization events from occurring in mass.


All your "logic" surrounding covid is flawed, short-sighted, and selfish.

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Tulipslave]
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Quote:
The vaccines wear off. Vaccines would be needed every 6 months to keep major health/hospitalization events from occurring in mass.


That article is wrong. And you are wrong. You’re focused on the passive neutralizing antibodies and ignoring the cellular immunity you get from vaccines. Memory cells start mass producing antibodies within two days. Acquired T-cells can start attacking infected cells almost immediately. Antibodies have a half life, but the memory cells are forever. The cellular immunity from the vaccine and infection is very durable.

This happens with most vaccines. Smallpox antibodies fade over time and you can get infected, but the cellular immunity prevents serious illness. The polio vaccine isn’t even designed to prevent infection. They prevent infections from progressing into the nervous system. Rabies vaccine doesn’t prevent infections, it prevents fulminating rabies.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/04/22 11:57 PM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
The vaccines wear off. Vaccines would be needed every 6 months to keep major health/hospitalization events from occurring in mass.


That article is wrong. And you are wrong. You’re focused on the passive neutralizing antibodies and ignoring the cellular immunity you get from vaccines. Memory cells start mass producing antibodies within two days. Acquired T-cells can start attacking infected cells almost immediately. Antibodies have a half life, but the memory cells are forever. The cellular immunity from the vaccine and infection is very durable.

This happens with most vaccines. Smallpox antibodies fade over time and you can get infected, but the cellular immunity prevents serious illness. The polio vaccine isn’t even designed to prevent infection. They prevent infections from progressing into the nervous system. Rabies vaccine doesn’t prevent infections, it prevents fulminating rabies.



Clearly you didn't read it.


Quote:
The second response is to make memory B and T cells, which are longer-lived," Offit said.

Memory cells tend to lay dormant and need a trigger before they start generating antibodies.

The virus that causes COVID-19 has a short incubation period. Most infected people become contagious within the first few days, long before memory cells activate to make antibodies.

Since memory cells eventually act about two weeks in, infections typically won't progress beyond mild illness. But by then, many folks will have transmitted the virus to others."


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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: Asante]
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Even if you don't believe in stories of orange clots, that move on their own, an entire economy was being built upon forced participation. Wartime production with no legal liabilities is what made it Project Warp Speed. No arch leftist mega shit lib was willing to accept that risk, originally, depending on who was in charge.

So, you have some concept of self-ownership, afterall.

How would you convince foreign countries.


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WEF defector.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/shit-burgers-meat-made-from-human-feces-just-another-natela
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upload_(TV_series)

Edited by durian_2008 (06/05/22 10:09 AM)

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Re: COVID-19 = SARS-CoV-2 - Novel Coronavirus Pandemic Main Thread - PART 3 (Third Wave 2021-2022 season) [Re: durian_2008]
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Quote:
The virus that causes COVID-19 has a short incubation period. Most infected people become contagious within the first few days, long before memory cells activate to make antibodies.

Since memory cells eventually act about two weeks in, infections typically won't progress beyond mild illness. But by then, many folks will have transmitted the virus to others."



This is incorrect. If you have been vaccinated or infected before, you have memory cells for covid and they only take a day or two to start surprising an infection. That is why the vaccine boosters start boosting antibody levels after only two days


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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