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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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My posts in this thread? Yeah I'm sure you do. That's your problem though, not mine. :grin:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
JohnRainy said:
Hunter Biden got a fake job because he's the son of a made member of the American ruling class...


If that's all there is to it we have a case of implied influemce trading involving the then vice president and a foreign power. This is the best scenario but if either of the Bidens acknowledged the deal in any way things get much worse because Russians would have access to this.

Imagine that Biden becomes the next president and gets a note from the Russians requesting some strategic favours or else the record of his or Hunter's acknowledgement of the deal with some Ukrainian players gets released. This would be a classic case of a compromised leader who can be leveraged by a foreign power

Now - do you, JohnRainy, know if there is any record of either Biden saying something compromising with regards to Hunter's fake job? Assuming you do not - would you like to find out? In fact, do you agree that it is in the best interest of the US of A to pursue the answer?

Your response to the above questions will be appreciated before we take this discussion further




Joe Biden is already compromised, like most US politicians:



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
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Thats why Trump won the presidency. He wasn't a politician before. All these democrats are career politicians in it to get rich.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ZombiWurm]
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Trump won the presidency because they more adequately secured electoral college votes. He lost the popular vote, meaning more people voted for the rich career democrat.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ZombiWurm]
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ZombiWurm said:
Thats why Trump won the presidency. He wasn't a politician before. All these democrats are career politicians in it to get rich.



Trump has been a Democrat, Republican, and an Independent per his voting record. 

What politician, regardless of party, isn't trying to fatten their coffers or enhance their social status?

I've said it before and will continue to do so, "good, honest people don't get into politics.  and if they do, they cease to be good, honest people."

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ZombiWurm] * 1
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ZombiWurm said:
Thats why Trump won the presidency. He wasn't a politician before. All these democrats are career politicians in it to get rich.


And lo and behold Trump did what every scummy politician does and appointed criminals to his cabinet. He drained the swamp so he could find his cabinet at the bottom. People with thatvmindset have just followed his cult of personality like good little sheeple.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
ZombiWurm said:
Thats why Trump won the presidency. He wasn't a politician before. All these democrats are career politicians in it to get rich.


And lo and behold Trump did what every scummy politician does and appointed criminals to his cabinet. He drained the swamp so he could find his cabinet at the bottom. People with thatvmindset have just followed his cult of personality like good little sheeple.


And who did Obama put in cabinet?  That's right, he didn't even promise to drain the swamp.  :lol:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera] * 1
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christopera said:
Trump won the presidency because they more adequately secured electoral college votes. He lost the popular vote, meaning more people voted for the rich career democrat.


So Trump won the election because he won the election?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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ZombiWurm said:
Thats why Trump won the presidency. He wasn't a politician before. All these democrats are career politicians in it to get rich.


 
Every politician , every govt employee , every company owner , every employee and every rich motherfucker who gets out of bed and puts shoes on does it for the money .
  How foolish Do you have to be to think trump or anyone else would do a fucking thing for you  for free ?

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That's right, he didn't even promise to drain the swamp.  :lol:


  Probably didn’t think anyone would be stupid enough to buy it .


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
christopera said:
Trump won the presidency because they more adequately secured electoral college votes. He lost the popular vote, meaning more people voted for the rich career democrat.


So Trump won the election because he won the election?


It was implied that people voted for him, and then he won, because he wasn’t a politician. When in fact he had less votes than the career politician he ran against. So it seems, that more people preferred the career politician. Does that make it more clear?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera] * 1
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christopera said:
Trump won the presidency because they more adequately secured electoral college votes. He lost the popular vote, meaning more people voted for the rich career democrat.


Correct - Trump won the presidency the only way anyone can win it, meaning by securing more electorate college votes than the other candidates.

Edited by Metoo (12/27/19 12:46 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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But it’s undeniable that the career politician was voted for by more American citizens.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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Trump is obviously already compromised in his allegiance to Russia, I don't even think he really won the election. Him and his supporters don't care if they won illegitimately, they'll take any opportunity to seize as much power to abuse as they can. It's always only been about "owning the libs" as in like literally being slave owners to subjugate to work while they're the main ones to reap the benefit. All of those cocksuckers need to get fucking crucified imo.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr] * 2
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DontFearThePeepr said:
Trump is obviously already compromised in his allegiance to Russia, I don't even think he really won the election. Him and his supporters don't care if they won illegitimately, they'll take any opportunity to seize as much power to abuse as they can. It's always only been about "owning the libs" as in like literally being slave owners to subjugate to work while they're the main ones to reap the benefit. All of those cocksuckers need to get fucking crucified imo.




Trump won the election far more legitimately than W. Bush won the election :shrug:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera] * 1
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christopera said:
qman said:
christopera said:
Trump won the presidency because they more adequately secured electoral college votes. He lost the popular vote, meaning more people voted for the rich career democrat.


So Trump won the election because he won the election?


It was implied that people voted for him, and then he won, because he wasn’t a politician. When in fact he had less votes than the career politician he ran against. So it seems, that more people preferred the career politician. Does that make it more clear?


But doesn't everyone involved understand the election game?  Isn't it essential to run a campaign that isn't concerned with popular vote and totally focused on the key states in the electorate college?

There is no mystery here, everyone knows the key states to win again in 2020.  Trump might lose the popular vote again and still win. This would be a credit to Trump, but something tells me his haters wouldn't acknowledge this fact.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Tulipslave]
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Perhaps, although Roger Stone apparently had a role in the result of that election as well  :lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr] * 1
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DontFearThePeepr said:
Trump is obviously already compromised in his allegiance to Russia, I don't even think he really won the election. Him and his supporters don't care if they won illegitimately, they'll take any opportunity to seize as much power to abuse as they can. It's always only been about "owning the libs" as in like literally being slave owners to subjugate to work while they're the main ones to reap the benefit. All of those cocksuckers need to get fucking crucified imo.


Any evidence about the Russia claim?

And yes, Trump did win the election. Again, any evidence the election wasn't legitimate?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
But doesn't everyone involved understand the election game?  Isn't it essential to run a campaign that isn't concerned with popular vote and totally focused on the key states in the electorate college?

There is no mystery here, everyone knows the key states to win again in 2020.  Trump might lose the popular vote again and still win. This would be a credit to Trump, but something tells me his haters wouldn't acknowledge this fact.



Right, it's like sheep herding. However, not sure how well this might be a testament to what democracy is supposed to be or how it reflects the nature of the citizens who are living in a so-called "free society".


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Any evidence about the Russia claim?

And yes, Trump did win the election. Again, any evidence the election wasn't legitimate?


No, it's just a hunch. If there was actual evidence available it would have probably gotten much more attention. It's either been covered up really well or never happened. I have my suspicions still, one reason I guess I could mention is the new evidence about the afghan war. This is information that was suppressed for almost 2 decades. Just because it isn't directly known at this moment doesn't negate any possibility that it might turn out to be true.

I think the machines could have been hacked or that there was a weak point where the Russians were able to hone in on and change the results, this is actually corroborated by people who were involved directly with the election process itself. It was noted that the count results from the machines would have to be sent along through a point which could have been vulnerable.

The way they managed to get the results in very quickly during election night is also very suspicious to me. You could say this is because the technology makes it easier to round everything up, but that also makes it all the easier to have gained access to affect the results. It also had to be done quickly since he needed to be the first to that amount of electoral votes. So it wouldn't surprise me if this was an aspect which they had focused on tbh.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: DontFearThePeepr] * 1
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DontFearThePeepr said:
qman said:
But doesn't everyone involved understand the election game?  Isn't it essential to run a campaign that isn't concerned with popular vote and totally focused on the key states in the electorate college?

There is no mystery here, everyone knows the key states to win again in 2020.  Trump might lose the popular vote again and still win. This would be a credit to Trump, but something tells me his haters wouldn't acknowledge this fact.



Right, it's like sheep herding. However, not sure how well this might be a testament to what democracy is supposed to be or how it reflects the nature of the citizens who are living in a so-called "free society".



USA is not a Democracy, by definition. :shrug:

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