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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-04-25/macron-woos-yellow-vests-tax-cuts-immigration-and-warning-over-threat-political

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/political-islam-seeks-secession-from-france-macron-142956

https://aawsat.com/english/home/article/1696261/macron-political-islam-threatens-france

Well, what do we have here?  Is Macron turning into a far-right nationalist leader now? 

Talk is very cheap and I highly doubt much is going to change in France, at least it buys some more time from the angry natives.


Where do you find this crap?

Do you just google ‘’macron Islam” and pick 3 random links?


Macron recently gave a speech and covered many different issues, I'm sorry that aspect of his speech triggered people like yourself.


I don’t even know what speech you’re referring to. Not everyone who disagrees with you is triggered.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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Socialist party, PSOE wins elections in Spain

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/apr/28/spain-election-turnout-increases-as-voters-head-to-polls-for-third-time-in-four-years-live-updates


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Socialists win the Spanish election says a delighted Grauniad hack.

I notice they failed to congratulate the Vox Party on winning their first 24 seats, another reminder for the Globalists and their Anarcho/Commie allies that the resistance is continuing to make gains.

England and Wales have local council elections on 2nd May, I'm looking forward to the results.

The mainstream parties are desperate to avoid the Euro elections on 23rd May, so expect another attempt by Quisling May to force through a (non)Brexit agreement before then. She may succeed this time as the MP's we have in parliament will always put their interests before the national interest.

If the vote goes ahead the Brexit Party will win. UKIP will win a few seats, but best of all will be Tommy Robinson, standing as an Independent winning a seat in the EU parliament.

Last night Tommy had to cancel a meeting in Salford due to his family being threatened. He must now move them  to  a another new address, but with the police able to dox him to the Commies, this will probably happen again.

If this fails they can always arrest him on some fake charge, but I think that would ensure his election.

Democracy can be so inconvenient to the Globalists, no wonder they always want to overthrow it.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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The Ecstatic said:
Socialist party, PSOE wins elections in Spain

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/apr/28/spain-election-turnout-increases-as-voters-head-to-polls-for-third-time-in-four-years-live-updates


You beat me to it.  This thread can finally die as the socialist left are the ones who are rising.  :smirk:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Just wait until Corbyn takes office.

Also holy shit I saw the funniest video of Macron getting pelted with shit by protestors on twitter, let me see if I can find it.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Will Scarlet] * 4
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Will Scarlet said:
If the vote goes ahead the Brexit Party will win. UKIP will win a few seats, but best of all will be Tommy Robinson, standing as an Independent winning a seat in the EU parliament.


Why do you think it's good that a convicted fraudster who goes under an alias (based on a football hooligan) will possibly represent our country?  He seems like a dick to me.

Will Scarlet said:Last night Tommy had to cancel a meeting in Salford due to his family being threatened. He must now move them  to  a another new address, but with the police able to dox him to the Commies, this will probably happen again.


Nothing Tommy isn't afraid of doing himself.  What's sauce for the goose...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/05/journalist-makes-police-complaint-about-tommy-robinson

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Will Scarlet said:
If this fails they can always arrest him on some fake charge, but I think that would ensure his election.


They usually succeed in arresting him on real charges.  I suppose he makes that easy for them by committing actual crimes though...

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Guy1980]
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That bullshite doesn't work any more Guy1980, the government and the corporate media have used every weapon in their arsenal, including attempted murder, and the working class still support Tommy Robinson.

Go for it Tommy, the people are on your side mate. The more dirty tricks they use against you, the stronger your support will be.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Will Scarlet] * 2
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Will Scarlet said:
That bullshite doesn't work any more Guy1980


Which bullshite?

I'm working class, and Tommy Robinson in no way represents me.  He's a self aggrandising, populist fraud.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Sunday’s vote was a humiliation for the People’s party (PP), the traditional conservative party of government in Spain, as the anti-feminist, anti-immigration Vox party won 24 seats in parliament, the most significant victory by a far-right party since the end of Franco’s dictatorship. PP’s leader, Pablo Casado, admitted the election results were “very bad” after the number of seats in parliament held by his party more than halved from 137 in 2016’s vote to 66.



“The right wing is just like old dictators” as “white nationalism” aka being white is race crime on facebook, amazon has a digital book fire for milquetoast authors like jared taylor or rooshv. Yea we, the right, are the dictators the authoritarians. Not leftist like in canad that are jailing fathers for callig their 14 year old  son a boy and refusing hormone “therapy” followed by castration. Cant you see the right is the evil ones 100 years ago just nevermind the horrors going on right now.

Neocons good bye. Hello spanish paleocons.



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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: JHOVA] * 4
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Here's a non-biased article about the BC court case, for those interested: https://www.thestar.com/vancouver/2019/03/12/misgendering-kids-and-preventing-transitioning-can-constitute-child-abuse-following-bc-supreme-court-ruling.html

To summarize: The 15 year old kid, assigned female at birth, has identified as a male since they were 11 years old. He has suffered from continued gender dysphoria that has resulted in suicide attempts. Along with the support of his mom and multiple doctors and health-care workers, he wanted to start testosterone hormone therapy in the summer of 2018. However, his father opposed the treatment and took the issue to court.

It sets a precedent suggesting that seeking medical assistance is a health decision and not a political or moral one that a parent can stop.

Even if we take the reactionary talking point that trans people are mentally ill, access to hormone therapy has decades of research showing it to be one the most effective treatments for gender dysphoria. That means in your scenario, this father is denying his son life saving medical treatment for gender dysphoria, because of his moral views.

Sounds pretty scummy to me.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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interesting how i never see the right wingers here mention widespread white nationalism/neo nazism etc being a problem.

Pentagon Links More U.S. Military Members to Neo-Nazi Group

Bomb squad detonates 'Mother of Satan' explosives after man charged with keeping bomb materials in fridge

Coast Guard officer accused of stockpiling hit list hasn't been charged with terrorism

ACLU Warns of “Fascist Militia” Holding Migrant Border Crossers at Gunpoint

Master Sergeant Cory Reeves Exposed as White Supremacist Organizer


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Yes, glad to see the results in Spain for the socialists but the far right also had gains too. I think the socialists got a bigger share of the vote because of the threat of the far right.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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medical assistance? hahaha thats what you call chemical castration. what a good solution that still results in 40% suicide. i say go for it liberals. your ruining your own future and leaving it to the right and Christians to replace you. between chemical castration and abortion you guys really hate living in this world. :rofl:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
medical assistance? hahaha thats what you call chemical castration. what a good solution that still results in 40% suicide. i say go for it liberals. your ruining your own future and leaving it to the right and Christians to replace you. between chemical castration and abortion you guys really hate living in this world. :rofl:


Actually dealt with vasectomy before really "finding out" about trans people
so personally made my reproductive decisions as an adult without influencing factor of trans matters

but this is the area where hormone therapy for people under 18 does not sit well for me
it is possible to reverse infertility from hormone therapy,
but like with reversing a vasectomy, it is better to simply preserve a sperm sample before beginning the procedure and using artificial insemination if you later have a partner with whom raising children seems desirable

going through ordeal to find out you can't be a biological parent anyway strikes me as less desirable than simply having young trans people wait to transition



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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tantrika]
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yea it did not work out so well for David Reimer.

He was lied to and experimented on by John William Money a jewish psycologist. This demon never had children and advocated for consensual pedophilia with 11 year old boys and 30 year old grown men. Truly a disgusting person who has ruined many young boys lives.

just today JF was talking about canadas state enforced anti-heterosexual indoctrination programs.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tantrika] * 3
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Tantrika said:
Actually dealt with vasectomy before really "finding out" about trans people
so personally made my reproductive decisions as an adult without influencing factor of trans matters

but this is the area where hormone therapy for people under 18 does not sit well for me
it is possible to reverse infertility from hormone therapy,
but like with reversing a vasectomy, it is better to simply preserve a sperm sample before beginning the procedure and using artificial insemination if you later have a partner with whom raising children seems desirable

going through ordeal to find out you can't be a biological parent anyway strikes me as less desirable than simply having young trans people wait to transition

:shrug:


This case was definitely one of the more extreme examples. I agree that allowing children to make significant life altering decisions carries a greater risk that they will not fully grasp the consequences, than waiting until adulthood.

Still, in this case the kid was trying to kill themselves because of their gender dysphoria, and hormone treatment is the most effective treatment we currently have for reducing the risk of suicide from gender dysphoria. Multiple doctors, healthcare professionals, and psychiatrists also testified that the kid was aware of the long-term consequences of hormone therapy.

It shouldn't be the first option for transgender children, but at the point where gender dysphoria is so severe that the risk of suicide means they may not make it to adulthood, this is the best treatment we have at this time. Multiple studies have found that hormone therapy together with acceptance of trans identities can lower the risk of suicide to that of the control group - which is a pretty effective reduction.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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On a more relevant note: Portugal has found an antidote to right-wing populism

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Not too long ago, Portugal stood on the brink of catastrophe: harsh austerity policies and the erosion of labour rights pushed by the conservative government lead to significant rises in poverty and unemployment. The economy dwindled due to the lack of peoples’ spending power.

Today, everything has changed:

    “Nowadays, Portugal is considered a prime example among European countries: the economy is booming, unemployment is dropping and investments are rising.”

What are the reasons for this turnaround? What makes Portugal special when compared to other countries?



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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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From your link:

"The Pentagon has acknowledged it’s investigating four additional military members for their ties to the white nationalist movement known as Identity Evropa, bringing the total number of the group’s members known to be under investigation to 11. "
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So there is roughly 2 million combined active and reserve troops, and there is 11 troops  under this investigation? Are there more investigations with a boarder swath of military  personnel? No human institution is immune from shitbags, but statistically  it doesnt seem like an epidemic.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
    “Nowadays, Portugal is considered a prime example among European countries: the economy is booming, unemployment is dropping and investments are rising.”

What are the reasons for this turnaround? What makes Portugal special when compared to other countries?


Answer from the article (for those that don't click on links):  SOCIALISM.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
shivas.wisdom said:
    “Nowadays, Portugal is considered a prime example among European countries: the economy is booming, unemployment is dropping and investments are rising.”

What are the reasons for this turnaround? What makes Portugal special when compared to other countries?


Answer from the article (for those that don't click on links):  SOCIALISM.


The economy isn't "booming", it's barely even recovering from big declines in GDP from previous years.

https://tradingeconomics.com/portugal/gdp-growth

"growth was confirmed at 0.4 percent in the 4th quarter of 2018"

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