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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: relic]
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*yawn
Ok whatever mate you win congratulations!
I don't really give a shit but anything that reduces big centralized government and puts more power in the hands of local communities is something that I will be supporting.
Your statistics are also whack as you know. it's not a third of the population not everyone turned up to vote.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Sorry, but the vest majority of people still put value on borders, national sovereignty and citizenship.  That fact does not make them racist.


Ya, that's why they only want a wall on the side of the country where more dark skinned folk come from.  Why is no one calling for a Canadian wall?


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Sorry, but the vest majority of people still put value on borders, national sovereignty and citizenship.  That fact does not make them racist.


Ya, that's why they only want a wall on the side of the country where more dark skinned folk come from.  Why is no one calling for a Canadian wall?


Hmm, because both borders are equal in nature?  No, immigration coming from the southern border is obviously a much larger problem.  Nice try.

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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: qman] * 2
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We have to protect our SOVEREIGNTY at every BORDER at all costs. Even if we have to spend 10 times as much money fighting immigrants as I assume they cost us, it’s worth it.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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$200,000,000 for troops to be involved in a political stunt?

Hey, whatever it takes to make sure brown people don’t use welfare.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Sorry, but the vest majority of people still put value on borders, national sovereignty and citizenship.  That fact does not make them racist.


Ya, that's why they only want a wall on the side of the country where more dark skinned folk come from.  Why is no one calling for a Canadian wall?


Hmm, because both borders are equal in nature?  No, immigration coming from the southern border is obviously a much larger problem.  Nice try.


If only you would apply that same logic when arguing economics - the small shit doesn't matter compared to the big shit.

Yet here we are talking about immigrants.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Exactly.

Proportionality is monumental when it comes to which border to defend, but it’s absolutey irrelevant when it comes to the reasoning behind defending the border in the first place.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Exactly.

Proportionality is monumental when it comes to which border to defend, but it’s absolutey irrelevant when it comes to the reasoning behind defending the border in the first place.


Well, most US citizens do place value on border enforcement, citizenship and national sovereignty.  So the expenses to maintain it is very well worth it.

But again, I'm trying to explain this to someone who is an advocate for open borders, talk about a waste of time.

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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: qman] * 3
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Yeah we’ve already been through this. You’d rather spend $10 to keep brown people out instead of give them $1 if they get in.

Your reasoning? The budget.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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:awesomenod:

Seems to the case with most conservatives here because, welp, they're not racist or anything...


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: relic] * 1
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2in1 said:
*yawn
Ok whatever mate you win congratulations!


it's not about me winning, mate, it's about accuracy and honesty; two things sorely lacking in a lot of political matters and discussions.

i hope you get the rest you need so you can be more accurate in the future. 


2in1 said:
I don't really give a shit but anything that reduces big centralized government and puts more power in the hands of local communities is something that I will be supporting. 


you should care about more than that and i suspect you do but in the end?  :shrug:

2in1 said:
Your statistics are also whack as you know. it's not a third of the population not everyone turned up to vote.


i guess since you're so tired you missed the part where i gave you the math...

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relic said:
if 51.89% voted to leave and turnout was 72.21%, then just a little over a third of the electorate [37.46%] voted to leave.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Yeah we’ve already been through this. You’d rather spend $10 to keep brown people out instead of give them $1 if they get in.

Your reasoning? The budget.


That's some fuzzy math you have going on there.

The fact of the matter is, border enforcement provides an excellent return on investment for developed nations.

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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
:awesomenod:

Seems to the case with most conservatives here because, welp, they're not racist or anything...


Don't tell my you bought into his fairytale math and then made a false conclusion. :facepalm:

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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Yeah we’ve already been through this. You’d rather spend $10 to keep brown people out instead of give them $1 if they get in.

Your reasoning? The budget.


That's some fuzzy math you have going on there.

The fact of the matter is, border enforcement provides an excellent return on investment for developed nations.


What’s the return on the $200,000,000 we spent sending troops to Texas, only to turn them arouns before the caravan even approaches?


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: The Ecstatic]
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They put up a couple miles of of very expensive razor wire.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Yeah we’ve already been through this. You’d rather spend $10 to keep brown people out instead of give them $1 if they get in.

Your reasoning? The budget.


That's some fuzzy math you have going on there.

The fact of the matter is, border enforcement provides an excellent return on investment for developed nations.


What’s the return on the $200,000,000 we spent sending troops to Texas, only to turn them arouns before the caravan even approaches?


The revised number is now $72 million, this is what happens when we don't have the existing infrastructure in place to deal with border enforcement.

Either way, what's the next available option here, open the doors and hand out that money to people wanting to come here?

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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: qman] * 1
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Of course. And I’m sure the required infrastructure to defend thousands of miles of border is extremely cheap.


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Of course. And I’m sure the required infrastructure to defend thousands of miles of border is extremely cheap.


Then why have a country, why have citizenship?  Just open the doors and pay for millions of third world migrants wanting to have a higher standard of living at US citizens expense.  I'm sure you can sell that concept to the American public. 

At the end of the day, border enforcement is cheap relative to developed nations dealing with millions of illegals flooding into their homelands.

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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
qman said:
The Ecstatic said:
Yeah we’ve already been through this. You’d rather spend $10 to keep brown people out instead of give them $1 if they get in.

Your reasoning? The budget.


That's some fuzzy math you have going on there.

The fact of the matter is, border enforcement provides an excellent return on investment for developed nations.


What’s the return on the $200,000,000 we spent sending troops to Texas, only to turn them arouns before the caravan even approaches?


The revised number is now $72 million


Waiting for the trump tweet where he brags about saving $128 million


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Re: Farage: The EU is becoming a German lead union that wants to be militarized [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
:awesomenod:

Seems to the case with most conservatives here because, welp, they're not racist or anything...



Democrats have always been the racists and continue to be.

Recently I have seen people in this forum show their disdain for Catholic Mexicans.

Further, the Mexican people in Tijuana do not even like the Caravan.

The left is obsessed with race and identity. Age too.

I have seen some people here pledging that old people can't run a country because they are "technologically inferior."

Today's leftists here, and their leaders, are comfortable with racism, ageism, sexism.

They will tell you, "Sit down you bigotted catholic deplorable or we will sick our street thugs on you. Tow the line, or you are out, old man."


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Edited by XUL (11/21/18 10:22 AM)

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