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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Patlal] * 1
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This is what happened when the video got interrupted



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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Patlal] * 3
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Sure...in this case...but then you have cases like Sammy Yatim happening in the same city :shrug:

That being said, a lot of our police forces don't really have to deal with the kind of shit their bothers to the south have to, every day in some circumstances.


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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: trendal] * 4
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Don't Canadian cops just carry nerf bats?

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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It just seems that people's eyes have been opened to the destructive power of road vehicles, and not just what happens in an unintentional crash.

Pedestrianized areas strategically blocked with bollards might need to be implemented.

Freedom reduces when people show just why we can't have nice things.

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: LobsterSauce]
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So many people are killed by automobiles that it's barely news unless there are some tantalizing details to the story.

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 2
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Crazy_Horse said:
Don't Canadian cops just carry nerf bats?



That's the UK


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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Patlal]
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Bring back the bicycle!

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
trendal said:
Wow! Kudos to the cop for not just shooting the guy :eek:



Yes.

Cops are not too trigger happy up here.




Pussy American cops would have shot him before he got out of the van


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: koods]
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A Palestinean cop would have raped and beat him on the street after taking his wallet. Same with federalis.


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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: ServantOfBaphomet] * 1
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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Patlal] * 4
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That cop is a hero. Watching that really demonstrates how pathetic American cops are.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: koods]
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American cops walk around all day in very rough neighborhoods, all of them start there and they get used to being paranoid from all the shit they see and have heard happen to other cops. It's just.. that way..


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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: ServantOfBaphomet]
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An amercan would have been smart enought to use a gun.

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Crazy_Horse] * 1
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Crazy_Horse said:
An amercan would have been smart enought to use a gun.



:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: sh4d0ws]
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:archiebunker:

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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a lot of places are reporting the facebook post is real
but don't beleive it
prostitution is quasi legal in canada and no one in their right mind would say that before killing a bunch of people
it was a facebook page not a facebook profile as pointed out

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Blend]
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Blend said:
That's pretty fucked man.  I wonder what the motive was.  The articles make it sound like it was done purposefully.  ...



Apparently speculation has begun but runs in a few different directions:
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Those who have decided that mental illness is to blame — based on reports that Minassian belonged to a special needs program in high school and reportedly roamed the halls meowing like a cat — will likely see any evidence of a motive through the lens of mental illness.

Those who have pegged Minassian as a violent misogynist — based on a Facebook post in which he appears to reference the "Incel Rebellion" (involuntarily celibate men) and praises misogynistic Santa Barbara, Calif., shooter Elliot Rodger — have already decided that the incident is a symptom of a dangerous online culture fuelled by fragile masculinity.

And others who have deemed Minassian a terrorist — based on the literal interpretation of what it means to spread terror — will point out our collective reluctance to use the label in cases where the perpetrator does not first yell "Allahu Akbar."

Each characterization has merit, mind you. I'm just not sure there's a point in trying to figure out which one is "correct."



http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/toronto-van-attack-1.4633641

Will be interested in a further look into motivations as the case becomes clearer
the Québec Mosque shooting only recently got to court,
and has supplied some insight into the time leading up to the attack

wonder if this case will stay as high profile or attention paid to it changes based on motivation

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Here is the arrest video.




Clearly he wanted to commit suicide by cop, but the cop had a different plan in mind.



Like the part where there is a group of people just strolling down the sidewalk behind him
it looks like they walked right past the van
then they turn around and start looking at the arrest
then sort of go "oh shit" and shuffle off into the doorway

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: Tantrika]
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The neighborhood were the attack took place is loaded with immigrants


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Psycho drives a van in a crowd of people in Toronto. Kills 9 injures 16 [Re: koods]
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koods said:
The neighborhood were the attack took place is loaded with immigrants



Mentioning as potential motivation or just observation?

Am not particularly familiar with Toronto,
but this event has lead to heralding of the street it happened on as being the most important in the city
http://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-meaning-of-torontos-yonge-street/
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Before there was a Yonge Street, before there was a Toronto, and well before the proliferation of the myth that Yonge was the world’s longest street, there was the Carrying Place Trail.

An Indigenous pathway that became popular among fur traders, the trail allowed for strenuous portaging from the mouth of the Humber River to the Holland, which connected Lake Ontario with Lake Simcoe. It was a channel for coureurs du bois like Étienne Brûlé, and for Jesuit missionaries to bring Christianity to the so-called New World. But 178 years after its first recorded use by Samuel de Champlain’s Huron allies, it was supplanted by the construction of John Graves Simcoe’s new military road, Yonge Street, named after Simcoe’s family friend, British war secretary Sir George Yonge. A long road between Lake Ontario and Lake Huron would allow, Simcoe hoped, for the sustained success and defence of a new temporary capital of Upper Canada—an upstart colony called York, named after the second son of King George III.

This rebranding of Indigenous places using institutions named in toadyish tribute to British figures would mark the first of many times that the street would become a reflection of the city itself. Over the road’s two centuries of existence, that became a reliable koan: As Yonge Street goes, so goes Toronto.



The media narrative seems to currently be leaning towards it being a "misogynistic" attack
drawing on his comments about involuntary celibacy before hitting the crowd

Quote:
The term incel is short for "involuntarily celibate," and the community that uses the label is typically dominated by men voicing frustration online about their lack of sexual relationships, sometimes blaming women for their failures with the opposite sex.

​Toronto police said Tuesday that Alek Minassian, the 25-year-old suspected of driving the van that plowed into pedestrians on a busy stretch of Yonge Street in Toronto's north end Monday, killing 10 people, is alleged to have published "a cryptic post on Facebook minutes before he began driving the rented van."

Minassian has been charged with 10 counts of first-degree murder and 13 counts of attempted murder. Fourteen people remain in hospital.

"Private (Recruit) Minassian Infantry 00010, wishing to speak to Sgt 4chan please. C23249161. The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys. All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!" reads the post.

Facebook confirmed the authenticity of the public post, created under a profile on the social networking site belonging to an Alek Minassian that has since been deleted by the company.

"It's something that we'll take into account in this investigation," Toronto Police Det.-Sgt. Graham Gibson said of the post, before declining to speculate on a motive.

Police said the victims in Monday's attack were "predominantly women."



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/what-is-an-incel-toronto-van-attack-explainer-alek-minassian-1.4633893
:shrug:

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