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Re: The horrid grip of nicotene [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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The wiki page says it can damage the heart.  Thought I read about kratom isolates can do that as well.

Does not seem well understood.


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Re: The horrid grip of nicotene [Re: Morel Guy]
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Where does it say that?


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Re: The horrid grip of nicotene [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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Is it this?

'Cardiovascular[edit]
Ibogaine causes long QT syndrome at therapeutic doses, apparently by blocking hERG potassium channels in the heart.'

Im not sure that means 'damage', I would have thought it a temporary risk that goes away when the ibogaine wears off, and is only really dangerous to those with actual heart conditions.

Iboga does all kinds of far out shit to the body.  You do not need sleep for about 5 days after you take it, I read somewhere that they think it blocks oxygen to the cerebellum, while simultaneously protecting it from oxygen deprivation, which kind of evokes a type of near death experience in some users.

It is intense as hell, for sure, but Im super glad I did it, and my heart sure didn't suffer, unless you can climb mountains with a damaged heart and I dont know about it.


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Re: The horrid grip of nicotene [Re: VroomerMcZoomers]
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Sounds like damage.

I dunno.

Not into risk taking all that much at this time.


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Re: The horrid grip of nicotene [Re: Morel Guy]
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First build is still going strong.  Very impressive!

That subvod was crap.  $32 lesson.  Their juice was out of whack prices too.


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Re: The horrid grip of nicotene [Re: Morel Guy]
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I smoke natural tobacco or high end tobacco tins.  I really enjoy Latakia blends.  I don't smoke cheap cigs and rarely smoke cigs.  Always american spirits when I do or whatever I can get in the funny farm (wasn't bad stuff it was kinda cigar like)...and LOVED IT.

The first cotton and coil build is still going strong.  Gotta about an liquid ounce remaining of the second juice mix (it was 100 ml).  Can't touch the first juice blend because it's just too much pg and pretty potent nicotine.  12mg is my sweet spot and when I don't use tobacco the amount of pg in my 12mg mix is just right.

Haven't used tobacco in some days.  It gets easy to have those 3 or 4 pipes a day.  But I really want to trance in bed at night after a tobacco pipe or 3 or 4 and having abstained for weeks.


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Re: The horrid grip of nicotene [Re: Morel Guy]
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Got around to rebuilding the tank coils.  It was getting about time.  Had a fairly strong smoky taste on the first build.  Read the cotton could be too tight.  So I rebuilt it (yep trashed the barely used coils cause the cotton was in tight) and it's still got a slight smoky thing going.  I don't know how to get the cotton in there any looser.  Not sure how I did such a perfect job the first time at it.


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