qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

And lets all pretend like qman isnt equivocating the merits of those ideas, lest he gets offended and reiterates the pointlessness of his point: "I only said a DEGREE of truth!"

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But this statement is 100% truth?  "our oligarchic capitalist system shut out the 99%"?    No, but there is "a DEGREE of truth" to it.

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Way to completely miss the point.

The Ecstatic said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

And lets all pretend like qman isnt equivocating the merits of those ideas, lest he gets offended and reiterates the pointlessness of his point: "I only said a DEGREE of truth!"

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But this statement is 100% truth?  "our oligarchic capitalist system shut out the 99%"?    No, but there is "a DEGREE of truth" to it.

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Way to completely miss the point.

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The Ecstatic said:

Only one of them IS a reasonable explanation for the problem I posited a sentence earlier:

The neoliberal concensus has failed the average person.

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qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

Only one of them IS a reasonable explanation for the problem I posited a sentence earlier:

The neoliberal concensus has failed the average person.

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I stand by my original statement, there's a degree of truth to both statements.

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qman said:

I don't think it's any mystery that the capitalists/globalists are using unrestricted migration of all sorts of people into the US/EU to meet their goals.

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shivas.wisdom said:

qman said:

If that migration happens to lower the standard of living for 99% of the existing population (which it has) they don't really care at all, hell they even have economically poor liberals defending their policy.

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Today I learned I'm part of the 1%

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

I don't think it's any mystery that the capitalists/globalists are using unrestricted migration of all sorts of people into the US/EU to meet their goals.

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What goals are you referring to?  Affordable agriculture so food is prices are reasonable?

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Wow, I didn't know cutthroat capitalists were so concerned about Joe Six-Pack having potentially lower food expenses, they don't sound as bad as you have describe them in the past.

qman said:

Wow, I didn't know cutthroat capitalists were so concerned about Joe Six-Pack having potentially lower food expenses, they don't sound as bad as you have describe them in the past.

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The Ecstatic said:

You act like the agriculture industrt wouldnt pass any increase in labor costs on to the consumer. Or that their massively subsidized industry paying out shit wages is some altruistic plan to keep veggie prices low.

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"pass any increase in labor costs on to the consumer"

If we following that line of reasoning, why in the world do capitalists ALWAYS seek the lowest cost of labor?  Because basic math tells us that businesses are not always able to pass on their higher costs without losing some on the margin.

Did you already forget why the border has remained open?  It wasn't for cultural enrichment or to help poor people.

The Ecstatic said:

It must suck to carry such a precarious political ethos that you have to carry the following two positions and ignore the glaring contradiction:

"The globalists are funneling immigrants into our country to destroy white people."

"The globalists are funneling immigrants into our country to keep prices low."

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You're obviously having a hard time picking up on the sarcasm, I never argued that capitalists were truly looking to keep prices low for consumers.

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

qman said:

Wow, I didn't know cutthroat capitalists were so concerned about Joe Six-Pack having potentially lower food expenses, they don't sound as bad as you have describe them in the past.

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Cutthroat capitalists are not concerned about Joe Six-Pack.  Food will be sold regardless of price because people need it to stay alive.  Which is why I asked what goals you were referring to.

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The Ecstatic said:

Then what was the point of that post?

A fake gotcha for fal?


So convoluted. Just say what you actually think. Its no accident that the alt right folks are constantly having to hedge their positions and retreat to gray areas.

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The Ecstatic said:

Thats sarcasm, too, right? Because I've never seen you make that argument. Maybe I'm way too high right now, but it seems to me (and I'd wager most others here) that the only argument you make endlessly is that we need to get immigrants out at all costs. Now you claim youve actually been doing the opposite, at least when it comes to the agriculture industry.

Maybe someone else can back up your claim. Idk

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qman said:

...why in the world do capitalists ALWAYS seek the lowest cost of labor?

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qman said:

Did you already forget why the border has remained open?

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