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Re: Demons and magic [Re: teknix]
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teknix said:
Peyote Road said:
King solomon was said to know how to make use of the demons.



Peyote Road said:
it feels like ever since I developed psychoses my mind got trapped in darkness and that creates a sort of fatal attraction to the demonic. Its like I can't turn away from the darkness. i try to turn back to God but I feel like I am too demonic now myself to go back to the light.



Heart chakra meditations man, learn to move that energy to wherever they are, they really don't like it and this form of energy has many protections placed upon it, so you don't give it to them, more like shine it at them.




I used to do that, I was always felt a very heart oriented person. But now it feels like my mind and heart have been disconnected, so I can no longer move the loving, powerful heart energy into my mind. That is my biggest problem, heart and mind are completely opposed to each other.


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The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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You've got to rage against the dying of the light (metaphorically)

Find your pineal and move the heart energy there. It could take months of meditation 2 hours a day to clear out the fog, but it will work eventually, just have to be persistent. If you you point the heart energy to your nostrils and and slowly breath in air through them, you will fill the air entering your body with heart energy. Hold that air in your lungs and activate the heart chakra, I mean make it shine. Blow the air out of your mouth after you held in it your lungs for around 10 seconds and then do it all over again.

This should circulate that energy throughout your body, and with your higher chakras being blocked, it will add a bit of power behind your intention to move energy into those blocked locations.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: teknix]
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My attention span is about 5 seconds, there is no way I am gonna be able to meditate for 2 hours every. Meditation can also be dangerous for me, as often when I start to meditate energies will intensify and I will feel like I am going crazy. I've had to stop doing most of the spiritual practices I used to do because they make me feel more crazy.


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The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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I was involved in a lot of things that attracted demons, drugs, psychedelics, the occult, loneliness and poor self esteem, sexual lust



Have you repented from these?

Step one: Stop digging.

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I am afraid to give it up because without I feel like I will have no identity and that is why I choose to remain in darkness. 



The Bible says to fear God.

Jesus said in Luke 14
If anyone comes to me, and doesn’t disregard his own life, he can’t be my disciple.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: flickedbic]
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No I was never able to truly repent and I understand why now I think. I got stuck believing myself to be a false identity, the ego if you will and I lost contact with my true self. All my attempts at repentance failed because I did not know how to get rid of the false ego, which was entirely constructed out of sin and thus could not repent. It became hardened and solidified in a sinful shape and no matter how hard I would try to turn it back to God it would steadfastly refuse. Hence I felt as though true repentance was impossible. No matter what I would do, I would never experience real peace. This made me convinced I was evil at heart and fundamentally unacceptable to God, because no matter how many times I would try to repent or confess my sins I would never feel any real freedom.

I never repented from lust because I used masturbation as a means to relieve my psychological pain and the pain of having brain damage. I did not want to give it up. I also used sexual energy as a motivating force to accomplish things in life and I did not want to give that up either. Actually, I remember trying so hard to be pure and failing over and over that I eventually gave up and decided that the way to go would be getting a girlfriend or even just having a one night stand so I could satisfy the desire that had plagued me for so long. This turned out to be a fatal decision, because learning how to pick up girls turned out be a much longer, more complicated process than I anticipated. I had to go and approach hundreds of girls and over time I did begin to learn how to flirt with them and they did start to become interested in me but the problem was, all this approaching and flirting with girls provided fuel for my masturbation addiction.

I dont understand why some people are allowed to have sex with so many woman and seem perfectly health, whereas I have to pay so dearly for my crimes.

Now I feel like it was a terrible mistake and being balanced and pure inside, remaining largely unaffected by the passing attractions of the world is the way to go.

Edited by Peyote Road (10/19/17 11:33 AM)

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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You are over thinking, don't give them excuses or rationale and definitely don't justify the torment.

These kinds of things are happening to people all over the world, and to put the blame on yourself is counter-productive and just feeds their justification.

You can start slow, just try to feel love for yourself at first, then try to feel that love in your nostrils. Then breath in through your nostrils. Even when you sit there typing, you can take a second to feel love. That's all it requires.

For me it doesn't require some deep meditative state to do, I don't even close my eyes.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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I choose Satan and Demons. Yahweh is the Darkness. The Bible is filth. teknix has nothing to offer you Peyote Road. I recall my San Pedro trips, they seemed to align me with Yahweh. Yuk. Not good. I never did learn to interact with women, I moved away from people instead. Now I never look at porn and 93%  of the time I don't care about being single. But I fantasize about sex and masturbate with the urge, like its natural and not even worth thinking about. This is simply the healthiest way. Celibacy and religious guilt are disease. Repent to blood thirsty thoughtforms for my own nature? No thanks. Demons don't hurt or bother people. Other things do.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: usulpsychonaut]
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Woa there cowboy, obviously I never intend to accept satan and demons over true divinity!

He's trying to get you to choose a side by putting those thoughts into your thought stream. But the choice must be both conscious and intended. So if one does not intend to accept evil then one didn't accept evil.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: usulpsychonaut]
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I disagree. Demons try to get people to engage in behaviors that opens them up for possession or energy syphoning, like drug abuse, masturbation addiction, self- harm, etc. You say they don't but other things do. What are these other things? Maybe what I am calling demons, you are calling something else.

The Bible teaches the way of peace, a moral life with a spiritual focus and love for your neighbors. Being controlled by carnal passions is a hindrance to one's freedom of mind, whether or not you believe in the Bible. You find similar ideas in many different philosophies.


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The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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Those things are angels. I reject evil. The bible is evil. Pretty much a Jewish supremacist mind control program designed to bring on the Apocalypse. The most powerful Christians around are always oh so keen to put a little square black thing on their head, pray at the wailing wall then drop bombs on innocents, creating apocalypses where ever they can.

This excerpt quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia is very revealing:
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In the same way the Greeks and Romans may have worshipped their divinities, fondly believing them to be good. But the Christian Scriptures declare that all the gods of the Gentiles are demons.



Catholic Encyclopedia: Devil Worship

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The Bible teaches the way of peace, a moral life with a spiritual focus and love for your neighbors.



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The Nazarene is forever condemning, insulting and threatening others:

Matt. 23:33
33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"

Mark 3: 5
5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, "Stretch forth thine hand."

John 2: 15
15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables

In the above verse, the Nazarene is condemning money making in the temple and greed, but by his actions and demands, the Nazarene is the greediest of them all.

The Nazarene makes it plain he comes to bring war on earth and conflict, hatred and enmity among family members; breaking up the family unit and home:
Matthew 10: 34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father and the daughter against her mother and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.



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Re: Demons and magic [Re: usulpsychonaut]
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Define evil usul.

Define Angel usul.

Sounds like you might be trapped in a reversed universe, but I don't play that, because there is no reason to distort true intent.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: teknix]
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It's not about what another has to offer you, it's about what you have to offer yourself.

We have innate forms of energy built into us, which they want to strip from us. Heart energy is an example of this energy, and it is most powerful. It's one of those things many religions are pointing towards, but sometimes it gets distorted by nefarious means.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: usulpsychonaut]
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usulpsychonaut said:
Those things are angels. I reject evil. The bible is evil. Pretty much a Jewish supremacist mind control program designed to bring on the Apocalypse. The most powerful Christians around are always oh so keen to put a little square black thing on their head, pray at the wailing wall then drop bombs on innocents, creating apocalypses where ever they can.

This excerpt quote from the Catholic Encyclopedia is very revealing:
Quote:
In the same way the Greeks and Romans may have worshipped their divinities, fondly believing them to be good. But the Christian Scriptures declare that all the gods of the Gentiles are demons.



Catholic Encyclopedia: Devil Worship

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The Bible teaches the way of peace, a moral life with a spiritual focus and love for your neighbors.



Quote:
The Nazarene is forever condemning, insulting and threatening others:

Matt. 23:33
33 "Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?"

Mark 3: 5
5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, "Stretch forth thine hand."

John 2: 15
15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables

In the above verse, the Nazarene is condemning money making in the temple and greed, but by his actions and demands, the Nazarene is the greediest of them all.

The Nazarene makes it plain he comes to bring war on earth and conflict, hatred and enmity among family members; breaking up the family unit and home:
Matthew 10: 34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father and the daughter against her mother and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.





He was condemning the Jews like the prophets before him, because the Jews are a greedy, evil and materialistic people who fancied themselves as above everyone else. The Jews murder their own prophets. See St. John Chrystostom's homily against the Jews: http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/chrysostom_adversus_judaeos_01_homily1.htm

He said he would  bring sword because he carried the sword of truth. That will always cause division between those who want to live in accordance with truth and those who who wish to remain in falsehood.

You're not proving anything by taking a few Biblical verses out of context.


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The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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HIGH PRAISES TO THE ONE GOD KING YAHWEH!!! CONQUERER AND BREAKER OF LIES AND CHAINS!!!

            PRAISE THE TRUE VICTOR AND ULTIMATE CREATOR JEHOVAH! Usul I ask you Who was it that cast Lucifer from Heaven for his mutiny attempt?  IT WAS THE MIGHTY WARRIOR KING YAHWEH!!!!!!!

          I PLEAD THE BLOOD OF YESHUA OVER PEYOTE ROAD AND HIS LIFE WILL NOT BE CLAIMED BY SATAN IN JESUS NAME!!!

                    ONLY ONE NAME LEADS TO TRUE VICTORY! IT IS NOT THE DECEIVING NAME OF SATAN!

  THAT WHICH REPRESENTS LOVE; YAHWEH


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Admirer of Bushido....... Seeker of Truth, and Knowledge.

    I Will Keep the Fire going,  and the Good Wolf fed.......

                    ( We Are All Threads from God.)

                 
                             

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Threads from God89]
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Get down to your local mall, raise your arms above your head and shout stuff like this for all the sinful shoppers. They need it,  will do them worlds of good.

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You're not proving anything by taking a few Biblical verses out of context.



Fuck context. With mind control and Jewish control magic there is no context. I remember  when 'the psychedelic community' would at least describe allegory. Now this 'community' feeling so much like The Assembly Of God. This endless negative shit from the Bible (bibbal babble) infects the gentile soul with depraved and dysfunctional shit.

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Exodus 29:18

And burn the whole ram on the altar. It is a burnt offering to the Lord. It is a pleasing aroma, a food offering to the Lord.




Yaweh is an entity that delights in, desires, lusts for the smell of burning flesh.

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Exodus 13:2

"Consecrate to me every firstborn male. The first offspring of every womb among the Israelites belongs to me, whether human or animal."

Leviticus 27:29

No person devoted to destruction may be ransomed; they are to be put to death.

Ezekiel 20:25-26

So I gave them other statutes that were not good and laws through which they could not live;

I defiled them through their gifts--the sacrifice of every firstborn--that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.'

Ephesians 5:2

And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.



Not only animal flesh, but human flesh too. Yaweh demands human sacrifice. The entire bible endlessly damns itself.



Define Angels...
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The Truth About Angels

Angelic entities seem to follow the same pattern in dealing with people. Known by different names; "Watchers" "Guardians" "Gatekeepers" their true nature is to keep humanity from progressing in any way especially in the area of spiritual power or knowledge. They are like guards in a concentration camp; the "Watchtowers." Angels are human-hating extraterrestrials and their agenda is to keep humanity spiritually enslaved and without power.

Those who are without and delve into the occult a little too deeply will often meet with unpleasant experiences [again, FEAR is often used as a means of control]. One way or another, those who are without are often deceived into relationships with angels.

Of course there are variations, but here is what to look for- you will see this if you read anything about people's experiences:


The angelic entity intrudes. Most often the creature is uninvited and takes it upon itself to barge in on someone's psyche totally uninvited.
The entity uses love to lower the victim's defenses. This is done deliberately and masks the entity's true intentions. The victim [human beings are emotionally vulnerable- how many serious mistakes have been made at the mercy of our emotions] feels the "love" and is deceived into believing this is a positive visitor.
The entity never explains much or gives the victim any valuable knowledge. Most questions are not answered, if they are, they are in riddles or nonsense. Any information given is either incorrect or incomplete.
Often, the entity will make a statement that it is coming to warn the victim and/or humanity of "erring ways." This many times has to do with anything the entity deems as a threat to their total control, in most cases playing upon the ability for one to defend one's self; humanity's use of mind power for psychic self defense is extremely threatening to these alien predators as their main tool of control is through the mind; their worst worry is should humanity ever discover the truth and attain the same powers of the mind as they possess. They preach a false concept of "peace" and "love" to disarm humanity and create a helpless/defenseless earth. Their own convictions concerning this are made blatantly clear throughout the Christian Bible where they are bringers of torture, suffering, and death. The book of revelation/apocalypse says it all.
The entity in many cases delivers negative prophesy. Most often, this predicts personal ruin, disaster for the victim, his/her loved ones or others who are close. The entity then offers false reassurance that it will remain with the victim through all of this, but does not lift a finger to stop it.
The entity in many cases, such as with ignorant [unknowing] new age people, acts as a healer when channeled. As usual, no knowledge of any value is given and the healer as well as the patient remain cripples and are helpless without the entity's assistance, making them slaves.
I have dealt with these entities and they are anything but benevolent. They are bringers of death, misfortune and their victims of choice are children. I have seen this many times. People who get into angel magick are either extremely arrogant or their personal lives end up in disaster. One guy who was into this sort of thing was severely depressed and into drugs.

When I was a small child, my mother told me her parents had a baby girl several years before she was born. This little girl, when two years of age [they were Christians] would point and say "angel" "angel." Soon afterwards, she hit her head on the streetcar when it jerked to a stop and soon died from complications.

An Christian woman who was expecting a baby was visited by an angel. The angel told her that the baby would be stillborn. Of course, the baby was stillborn.

The angels of apocalypse dump fire, plagues and all other kinds of nasties on humanity.

Angels prey upon children, and take their souls to use for hosting energy that angels and other ET entities feed off of.



Edited by usulpsychonaut (10/20/17 05:04 AM)

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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I defiled them through their gifts--the sacrifice of every firstborn--that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.




This is your God in his own words! He made them sacrifice their own first born sons, so that he would delight in the smell of their burning flesh, and so that They would know that HE WAS THEIR LORD, and your God admits that it was evil!

Get far away from the bible, quick!

Edited by usulpsychonaut (10/20/17 04:57 AM)

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: usulpsychonaut]
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usulpsychonaut said:
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I defiled them through their gifts--the sacrifice of every firstborn--that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD.




This is your God in his own words! He made them sacrifice their own first born sons, so that he would delight in the smell of their burning flesh, and so that They would know that HE WAS THEIR LORD, and your God admits that it was evil!

Get far away from the bible, quick!



Again, you are picking only certain verses and there are various interpretations. For example, the gnostics saw the God of the Jews as being the demiurge , with interpretations ranging from it being good, to neutral to entirely evil. You might be interested in this book https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Truth-Ages-Mark-Cordova/dp/1478719540 which gives an interesting take on this idea with Jesus Christ ultimately defeating the demiurge through trickery and representing the true God.

Believe me, I know how dangerous and powerful Jewish magic is and how skilled they are at mind control and manipulation. I spent six months living with a Jewish Magician and it utterly destroyed my life. I am left with psychoses now and struggle each day to maintain a semblance of sanity and not commit suicide.

But the way of life taught by Christ still strikes me as exemplary. Many philosophers who were not Christian have taught similar approaches to life, at least in regarding outward behavior. And many Christians have found great inspiration in the words of Jesus and lead venerable lives accomplishing much. The Bible did not seem to infect their souls and make them dysfunctional, so how do you explain that?


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The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: Peyote Road]
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I am dysfunctional and unemployed, and surrounded by devout Christians that are productive and very efficient wage earners. They generate massive national wealth via taxes that go toward... No wonder I am dysfunctional and unemployed. I am witness to Jesus seriously not helping. The whole church scene is really bad taste. I protest. Strange that the Shroomery is a church scene. The Christians I grew up with would love to incarcerate drug users. Jesus is Jewish mind control and nothing more.

At this point in my life there is no way out. I haven't achieved anything other than the certainty that my gods are demons and my enemies are angels. I'm lazy. Its too hard too interact with demons and undo Jewish thought forms that enslave me. I will not repent.

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: usulpsychonaut]
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How do you know you're not just delusional? My advice would be forget about Jesus/Satan/Angels and demons for a while and read some philosophy.


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The path of the herbalist is to open ourselves to nature in an innocent and pure way. SHe in turn will open her bounty and reward us with many valuable secrets. May the earth bless you. - Michael Tierra

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Re: Demons and magic [Re: usulpsychonaut]
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Usul, you can be spiritual without being religious, they aren't dependent upon one another.

It's kind of why I ignore your jabs at Christianity, because by personal spirituality isn't based upon religions.

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