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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said:
Are we allowed to take shots at other races of people here too, or just white people? Just wonderin



I'm not taking a shot at any race.  I'm taking a shot at racists.  Saying someone isn't "supreme" isn't "taking a shot."


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Enlil]
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You also misread my post. Anyway, at least we have another here who agrees white supremacy isn't an issue in America.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa]
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how many levels of irony at this point


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Eminence]
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I totally agree that white supremacy isn't an issue in the U.S. It is such a tiny minority of people that we can pretty much disregard those idiots.

Racism is alive and well, though.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Enlil said:
I think that's because most people realize that whites aren't supreme at very many things.  Other than dancing and basketball, I can't really think of anything.




jazz music?



As long as Daryl Hall still breathes, we've got Jazz on lock.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said:
Still waiting on shivas.wisdom to answer whether or not they also attack any of the other racial supremacist groups that are actually blatantly racist.



And I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that I support throwing homemade bombs at average Trump supporters. :shrug:

To answer your question though, because I can actually back up my opinions, is yes: in principle antifascists and anarchists are opposed to all forms of violently oppressive ideologies. We support Muslims, but oppose ISIL; we support Palestinians, but oppose Hamas; we support POC, but oppose reverting to segregation and nationalism. Of course, I can't speak for everyone, but these are definitely my views and experiences.

In practice, we can't be everywhere, and so generally the focus is turned towards those who pose the greatest threat to our communities. In North America, this usually takes the form of white supremacy (although resisting environmental destruction is another focus). When was the last time a black supremacist shot up a white church?


Anyways, I've answered your question so now do you think you can back up your claim or is this just going to be a one way street?

shivas.wisdom said:
Eminence said:
Asante said:
Eminence said:
you defend the degenerates that throw home made bombs at average Trump supporters and set buildings on fire because you are so easily triggered by words



Where's Shivas.Wisdom doing that? He very clearly distinguishes between the wheat and the chaff of antifascism.



You haven't seen his other posts on this topic have you?



Please quote me where I state I support throwing home made bombs at average Trump supporters.

I have always been very clear that I don't support any antifa action outright, nor do I believe antifascists above reproach or error; you just seem to always ignore this.




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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
I totally agree that white supremacy isn't an issue in the U.S. It is such a tiny minority of people that we can pretty much disregard those idiots.

Racism is alive and well, though.



I wouldn't say it is a non-issue that can be disregarded as people are being killed or otherwise harmed, but I do believe resistance towards the State is a bigger issue than standing down the KKK or similar ilk. The US, and other governments, kills more innocent people (both directly and indirectly) in a year than grassroots fascists have in their entire existence.

I think the important aspect of non-platforming is preventing the political establishment from linking up with grassroots fascists by forcing the later to remain militant and prevent their entrance into the mainstream political sphere.

It should be obvious why the average person would prefer to contest groups like the KKK over heavily armed and armoured police forces who hold a monopoly on acceptable violence, but without responding to State oppression we will always reach dead ends.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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There are no innocent people.  We all deserve to die.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Enlil]
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You can take my life from my cold dead hands.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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I've seen you trying to make excuses for it happening. Also a few posts ago you pretty much said "if you are at a rally with nazis expect to be treated as one." I'll keep that in mind if I ever see Antifa.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Eminence]
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Oh yeah..there's apparently an Antifa music video (and Sumerian records signed them for some reason :facepalm:) and surprise surprise...the ratings are horrible and the comments are full of nothing but people talking shit about Antifa :lol:



And here's their super edgy lyrics

You just got knocked the fuck out
The punishment fits the crime
So keep your hand held high and you’ll find out why
That this raised fist ain’t afraid to fly

77 since the 88
Had to look at my phone 'cause I couldn’t believe the date
It's 2017 but in a 40’s trend
With a racist president that's “making everything great again”
But tell me when that this was fucking okay
All the streets and the screens popping triple K’s
You want the peace? uh-uh, nah that won’t fly here
'Cause if you blink they're pushing you back 300 years
Call it what you want but it's an eye for an eye
I’ll mark you with a down right down - right up right
They’re trying to censor that they’re the fucking oppressor
And all you say is that it's wrong when they’re swinging at Spencer?
Brand yourself like a bull when it sees red
“Make the lie big” that's what he said
Fuck him and fuck you too, and appreciate
that if you preach hate, then expect hate

You just got knocked the fuck out
The punishment fits the crime
So keep your hand held high and you’ll find out why
That this raised fist ain’t afraid to fly

Lowest of the low, rats out of their holes
We never used to let these dickheads have any control
Speech is “free” but it comes with a price
And if you’re speaking out some bullshit I'll give you advice
Hit 'em with a left a left and a right
Got 'em dropping like flies with the stars in their eyes
So fuck them and fuck you too and appreciate that
if you preach hate, then expect hate

You just got knocked the fuck out
The punishment fits the crime
So keep your hand held high and you’ll find out why
that this raised fist ain’t afraid to fly

What makes you think that this is okay?
What makes you think you’re the superior race?
What makes you think that this is alright?
Goodnight alt-right

If you preach hate, then expect hate
Nazi punks fuck off

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Antifa represents the primal last ditch effort of a self aware working class in the twilight of their first world status.

Our capitalist overlords have ruined progress since WW2, and since fascists want us to turn the clocks back to 1937, its only just that these valiant worker champions suckerpunch whomever they deem nazis whenever possible.

Edit: seems this wasnt very renaissance-like. But surely there was brutality in 15th century Europe.



Are you an antifag?


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
and since fascists want us to turn the clocks back to 1937,





Who are they?  :popcorn:


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Yeah, that isnt my genuine opinion. Context, comrades.




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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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You quoted yourself?  What a copout.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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Yeah because our resident chuds can't read.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Eminence] * 2
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Eminence said:
I've seen you trying to make excuses for it happening. Also a few posts ago you pretty much said "if you are at a rally with nazis expect to be treated as one." I'll keep that in mind if I ever see Antifa.



Making excuses for what?

Also, the actual quote was "If you are comfortable marching with fascists, don't be surprised if you are mistaken for one.". There is a subtle, but significant, difference between the two.

You have a habit of putting words in my mouth. Still waiting on you backing up this claim of yours :

shivas.wisdom said:
Eminence said:
Asante said:
Eminence said:
you defend the degenerates that throw home made bombs at average Trump supporters and set buildings on fire because you are so easily triggered by words



Where's Shivas.Wisdom doing that? He very clearly distinguishes between the wheat and the chaff of antifascism.



You haven't seen his other posts on this topic have you?



Please quote me where I state I support throwing home made bombs at average Trump supporters.

I have always been very clear that I don't support any antifa action outright, nor do I believe antifascists above reproach or error; you just seem to always ignore this.



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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Yeah because our resident chuds can't read.



This makes no sense.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: lowbrow]
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Antifa managed to fuck up Hamburg.

They've become the biggest recruitment tool for the far right.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: lowbrow]
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Antifa is the biggest cowards on the planet if they all disappeared or just moved to some island the world would be a better place. That music video was the most pathetic thing and the definition of cringe. The comments are hilarious I hope the video stays up.

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