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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
You're right about that. People who dont think are arriving at those conclusions everyday.


What conclusions?

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: qman]
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Conclusions like "Antifa are just as bad as actual fascists."

Or its fraternal twin: "the people who call out racism are the real racists."


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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The Ecstatic said:
Conclusions like "Antifa are just as bad as actual fascists."

Or its fraternal twin: "the people who call out racism are the real racists."


In many cases those statements have lots of evidence and validity behind them.

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Bubbles85]
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dont forget culture studies

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
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The Ecstatic said:
Conclusions like "Antifa are just as bad as actual fascists."



ANTIFA attempts to shut down free speech.  That is an element of fascist doctrine.
The Ecstatic said:
Or its fraternal twin: "the people who call out racism are the real racists."


What are you talking about?  We are mainly talking about ANTIFA in America.  You know, the ANTIFA that protested a professor's refusal to participate in 'A DAY WITHOUT WHITES DAY' by trying to get him fired.


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: lowbrow]
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the ninjas are mostly idiots probably, but they are really a response to asshole "oathkeepers" and other rabble-rousers who travel across the country starting shit at "free speech rallies".  It's no different than what would happen if berkeley liberals went to montana to promote gun control or something.  Mind your own business and protest where you actually live, and dumbass ninjas won't show up to your rally.

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa]
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It has nothing to do with where they're from. Plenty of people are protesting in their own states/cities.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Conclusions like "Antifa are just as bad as actual fascists."

Or its fraternal twin: "the people who call out racism are the real racists."


It's true in some cases. Antifa is bad and resemble fascists more than the people they're fighting, but not as bad as actual fascists though because they're too stupid to be nearly as threatening. Just a little note on "racism" though..that word barely means anything to a lot of people anymore because it's used in the wrong context constantly. Like how CNN is blackmailing the dude on Reddit who made the Trump/CNN wrestling gif. Calling him a racist and a nazi and only didn't doxx him because he actually bitched out and apologized for it.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Eminence]
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It has everything to do with the craziness in berkeley.  Without the out of town scumbags rolling in, there is no real demand on the ground for these rallies.  Without the skinhead/biker rallies, the dipshit ninjas just stay home and take bong rips instead of throwing m-80s at other dipshits.

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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No, you haven't seen all the videos then. They were doing this dumb shit before Berkley. And the bikers and "skinheads" as you call them were a response to Antifa in the first place I'm pretty sure. Plenty of videos of Antifa coming around and harassing old women as well. Lots of these "scumbags" are actually people from around the area just joining in on these free speech and whatever other rallies they've come to. You are completely wrong to suggest it's just a bunch of people who have no business there trying to stir shit up.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
It has everything to do with the craziness in berkeley.  Without the out of town scumbags rolling in, there is no real demand on the ground for these rallies.  Without the skinhead/biker rallies, the dipshit ninjas just stay home and take bong rips instead of throwing m-80s at other dipshits.


The "protests" at places like Berkeley started way before the "skinheads" rolled into town to counter protest, I think you're confusing the time line story on this issue. :shrug:

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: Eminence]
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Eminence said:
No, you haven't seen all the videos then. They were doing this dumb shit before Berkley. And the bikers and "skinheads" as you call them were a response to Antifa in the first place I'm pretty sure. Plenty of videos of Antifa coming around and harassing old women as well. Lots of these "scumbags" are actually people from around the area just joining in on these free speech and whatever other rallies they've come to. You are completely wrong to suggest it's just a bunch of people who have no business there trying to be stir shit up.


:whathesaid:

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: qman]
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decentralized, cementralized.

Edited by akira_akuma (08/31/17 02:55 PM)

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
It has everything to do with the craziness in berkeley.  Without the out of town scumbags rolling in, there is no real demand on the ground for these rallies.  Without the skinhead/biker rallies, the dipshit ninjas just stay home and take bong rips instead of throwing m-80s at other dipshits.



Bullshit.  They shut down free speech before that when their was no counter protesters.  Remember the riot over Milo Yiannopolis?  There was no counter protesters when that got shut down, and that in turn, ralled up the right to make a trip to commieland(berkely).


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Amanita86 said:
Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: qman]
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qman said:
ballsalsa said:
It has everything to do with the craziness in berkeley.  Without the out of town scumbags rolling in, there is no real demand on the ground for these rallies.  Without the skinhead/biker rallies, the dipshit ninjas just stay home and take bong rips instead of throwing m-80s at other dipshits.


The "protests" at places like Berkeley started way before the "skinheads" rolled into town to counter protest, I think you're confusing the time line story on this issue. :shrug:


Maybe the first ninja protest where they smashed the atms, but without "oathkeepers" and others traveling in to throw fuel on the fire, this shit would have petered out long ago.  At least in the Bay Area.

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
qman said:
ballsalsa said:
It has everything to do with the craziness in berkeley.  Without the out of town scumbags rolling in, there is no real demand on the ground for these rallies.  Without the skinhead/biker rallies, the dipshit ninjas just stay home and take bong rips instead of throwing m-80s at other dipshits.


The "protests" at places like Berkeley started way before the "skinheads" rolled into town to counter protest, I think you're confusing the time line story on this issue. :shrug:


Maybe the first ninja protest where they smashed the atms, but without "oathkeepers" and others traveling in to throw fuel on the fire, this shit would have petered out long ago.  At least in the Bay Area.


So according to your logic, Milo could now speak at Berkeley without any protests or issues IF the "oathkeepers" didn't "throw fuel on the fire"?  You're wrong.

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Maybe the first ninja protest where they smashed the atms, but without "oathkeepers" and others traveling in to throw fuel on the fire, this shit would have petered out long ago.  At least in the Bay Area.


You can't say that for a fact.


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Sui is trying to mod right now.  Kinda like a newborn calf tryin ta stand fer the first time ain’t it..

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: qman]
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No, I'm saying that there is little demand for Milo or Ann in that town to begin with, which was the whole purpose of the publicity stunt in the first place, to get a rise out of the vast majority of locals.  My point was that we wouldn't be having these dueling rallies if out-of-towners would stay home to protest.

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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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They were requested to speak by berkely students.


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Re: ANTIFA [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
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ballsalsa said:
No, I'm saying that there is little demand for Milo or Ann in that town to begin with, which was the whole purpose of the publicity stunt in the first place, to get a rise out of the vast majority of locals.  My point was that we wouldn't be having these dueling rallies if out-of-towners would stay home to protest.


"there is little demand for Milo or Ann in that town to begin with"

Total nonsense, you do realize that there are conservative student organizations at Berkeley? 

You do realize there are plenty of conservative students at Berkeley? 

"publicity stunt...to get a rise"

So now this is a conspiracy by a small group of students? :facepalm:  I'm sorry, but Milo, Coulter and Shapiro speak at LOTS of different universities across the country, these speaking engagements are NOT "publicity stunts". :facepalm:

The violent protests were there way before the counter protesters came onto the scene.

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