Asante said:

Eminence said:

you defend the degenerates that throw home made bombs at average Trump supporters and set buildings on fire because you are so easily triggered by words

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Where's Shivas.Wisdom doing that? He very clearly distinguishes between the wheat and the chaff of antifascism.

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Asante said:

I was just addressing the notion that you brought up that compares Trump and Hitler.

I have done it myself, but now felt the need to highlight a crucial difference between the two.

Mentally, you dress up for a Nazi rally and you dress down for a Trump rally.

Its a big difference, that of Order and Chaos.

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Eminence said:

Asante said:

Eminence said:

you defend the degenerates that throw home made bombs at average Trump supporters and set buildings on fire because you are so easily triggered by words

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Where's Shivas.Wisdom doing that? He very clearly distinguishes between the wheat and the chaff of antifascism.

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You haven't seen his other posts on this topic have you?

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mescalator said:

These guys are ironically the biggest fascists around. I've just been going through lots of vidoes of them getting owned by patriots, which is satsfying. They don't have any arguments and everyone who disagrees with their far left views is somehow a Nazi who is a worhty target for violence.

Does anyone on this site actually agree with ANTIFA?

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The Ecstatic said:

Being violent against fascists makes YOU a fascist.

Just ask the Allied powers of WW2.

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akira_akuma said:

all of this crap is "fascism-lite"...i mean, Trump supporters? REALLY? they aren't fucking fascists. hell, some of them probably don't even know what the fuck it is, and just claim it because it's meme worthy.

the antifascist belittling are over those whom are trying to beat up Trump supporters for simply supporting their NON-FASCIST president. i think that's why they are being belittled. because they don't know what the fuck they are doing, in that regard.

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shivas.wisdom said:

Admittedly, the beginning of Trumps presidency was a clusterfuck of aggression from both camps, and I can't say I necessarily support every action claimed by 'antifa', but I also don't know enough to be willing to denounce them either.

But let me assure you that, at least in the anarchist circles I run in, a distinction is held between your average Republican, and the crypto-fascist (sometimes out and out fascist) members of the alt-right. Part of antifascist action is intelligence gathering, and familiar faces are popping up at every "free speech protest". This is actually an intentional tactic used by legitimate fascists (and other political movements), entryism.

Show me the antifa counter demonstration, seemingly against your average Trump supporters, and I will show you the fascist elements within. Guilty by association, I suppose. If you are comfortable marching with fascists, don't be surprised if you are mistaken for one.

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shivas.wisdom said:

Show me the antifa counter demonstration, seemingly against your average Trump supporters, and I will show you the fascist elements within. Guilty by association, I suppose. If you are comfortable marching with fascists, don't be surprised if you are mistaken for one.

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This is exactly what I was talking about. Trying to justify any random person getting maced or having bottles thrown at their heads just because they're associated or even just standing near other people who YOU consider fascist. People that are going to free speech rallies are considered "fascist" to you?

shivas.wisdom said:

Show me the antifa counter demonstration, seemingly against your average Trump supporters, and I will show you the fascist elements within.

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Average trump supporters? How about normal people just trying to go to work?

Attacking a women

Pepper spraying a women who is just talking to a reporter

Targeted the woman who filmed this video

Antifa protestors pepper spray and throw rocks at homeless people, because they got pissed at Antifa for leaving their trash all over the place

Yeah fuck those fascist homeless people for wanting clean streets where they live
When average fucking street urchins are attacking Antifa and telling them to get the fuck out... MAYBE IT'S TIME TO SIT BACK AND REFLECT A LITTLE BIT ON TERRIBLE LIFE CHOICES


The list goes on and fucking on. Shall I continue?
Go ahead and try to justify those. Go on.. show me all the fascist elements within
The only real fascists in this country are "Antifa". Bunch of over-privileged cunts. Antifa is nothing but a really bad joke.

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QUOTED FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING TRUTH.

The fact that a number of antifa are a bit of a disgrace, which is mirrored among the fascists, I think in the Reich a lot of neonazis would find themselves on the same one way track to Poland as the antifa, does not negate the fact that their uniting factor is an opposition against fascism.

Antifascism is a movement born out of need to counter upsurging force of fascism, national socialism and other totalitarianism, which is why you also have Antifa fighting ISIS, antifascism is more a form of antitotalitarianism, and Antifa are a riotous autonomous and decentralized branch thereof who are willing to get on the barricades and physically confront and drive back this force of oppression.

That the Shroomery would have a thread devoited to an almost unanymous belittling of antifa is a CRAZY development. Its completely opposed to the values that the community held dear in the early years.

Rallying against antifascists?

I know you got another civil war coming and are ramping up to rage it out in the streets but, really?


If we have to choose sides between Antifascism and being opposed to Antifascism, I'll choose Antifascism.

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"born out of need to counter upsurging force of fascism"

Give us a break, these ANTIFA fools are "protesting" conservative speakers like Ann Coulter and Ben Shapiro, that's pathetic.

"That the Shroomery would have a thread devoited to an almost unanymous belittling of antifa is a Crazy development"

No it's not, believers of freedom value free speech, we value non-violent protests, we value the exchange of ideas, these morons in ANTIFA are the opposite of those human rights, that's why we stand up to those losers.

"Rally against antifascists"

But they're not antifascists, they're the complete opposite, open your eyes.

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Antifaschistische Aktion, Antifascistische Aktie, Antifascist Action or Antifascistisk Aktion — abbreviated as Antifa (German/Dutch/English) or AFA (Scandinavian) — is a far-left, extra-parliamentary, anti-fascist network in Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Australia, Canada, and the United States of America whose stated goal is to "smash fascism in all its forms".[1] Some of its members are influenced by the theory of triple oppression, and all of its members claims to oppose sexism, racism, and classism. The point of the organization is to exchange information and to coordinate activities between local groups.

The group's activities have included handing out flyers, organizing demonstrations, direct action, and property destruction. They believe that physical aggression and violence are necessary to achieve their goals, due to the violence and aggression minority groups face at the hands of fascists and the far-right[citation needed]. In line with their ideology, and as a consequence of being constantly monitored by the police, the group has no central authority. This means it has a flat organization consisting of many independent groupings, without a board or leader. AFA works with other anti-racist groups all over Europe.[2][3] It is also described as a heterogeneous group which in the late 1930s and early 1940s was mostly made up of social democrats, communists, and progressive Christians following the collapse of Nazi government and civil society after World War Two.[4]

Germany
The first German movement to call itself Antifaschistische Aktion was proclaimed by the German Communist Party (KPD) in their newspaper Rote Fahne in 1932 and held its first rally in Berlin on 10 July 1932, then capital of the Weimar Republic. During the early 1930s amidst rising tensions between Nazis and the communists, Berlin in particular has been the site of regular and often very violent clashes between the two groups. In May 1932, the communist paramilitary organisation Rotfrontkämpferbund had been banned and, following a skirmish between Nazi and communist members in the parliament, the Antifaschistische Aktion was founded to ensure that the communists had still a militant wing to rival the paramilitary organisations of the Nazis. After the forced dissolution in the wake of the Machtergreifung in 1933, the movement was revived during the 1980s

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Eminence said:

See...any sane person is against fascism. But you defend the degenerates that throw home made bombs at average Trump supporters and set buildings on fire because you are so easily triggered by words. That's why "Antifa" is a laughing stock. None of you even know what you're doing, and none of you are the slightest bit intimidating! I would "Sieg Heil" to your face just to watch you get slapped down instantly

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What a tough guy.

In my mind's eye I'm seeing a fat hillbilly with a buzz-cut and a flannel with the sleeves cut off.  Probably sitting around in a Sonic parking lot and mad-dogging anyone who doesn't look like they're from there.

shivas.wisdom said:

Show me the antifa counter demonstration, seemingly against your average Trump supporters, and I will show you the fascist elements within. Guilty by association, I suppose. If you are comfortable marching with fascists, don't be surprised if you are mistaken for one.

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shivas.wisdom said:

I have always been very clear that I don't support any antifa action outright, nor do I believe antifascists above reproach or error; you just seem to always ignore this.

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Asante said:

I opened my eyes in the swimming pool today, and I saw a Jewish gentleman with the concentration camp serial number tattoo on him. Not making that up for dramatic effect.

"Fascist" has an entirely different meaning when World War II was your home front, than when it was a horrid conflict overseas. The remnants of the Reich are all around us, here.

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