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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1] * 4
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What I want to know is how so many trump supports can't see the irony in supporting the NRA and gun rights but not supporting weed legalization. The hypocrisy in that just blows my mind. Hell Trump just gave a shout out to the NRA and the Evangelicals at CPAC. In a lot of ways, they're the exact same thing. If your gonna argue that guns sitting in your house don't kill people, how can you argue that some dude sitting in his basement smoking weed is furthering the opiod epidemic.

Really its not about weed or guns, its the whole message. Trumps doing the same thing Obama did, making himself out to be someone who supports all people and all freedom, but is really just biased towards a certain sect of people. For a bit I thought Trump would be an entirely different kind of republican president, not letting himself get bogged down by the social issues and focusing strictly on the economics issues. I get that issues like immigration are a bit more complicated, although I agree with some of his policies on immigration. All I'm saying is, how hard is it for a president to just let shit like abortion and weed not become this huge fucking issue. At the very least leave it up to the states. I know the right wing supporters of the shroomery love to claim that its only the left that makes these social issues out to be an issue, but thats a load of bullshit

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: OliverJames]
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So basically it might be the same as Obama's presidency?


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Deathby69] * 1
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that's...what he is saying. :facepalm:

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma]
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Sorry, queen. I meant to reply to the OP. :lol:


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Deathby69]
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use the reply to feature, gramps.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Deathby69] * 2
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psilynut said:
But , but, but , Obama is what conservatives are going to say.



Prisoner#1 said:
yogabunny said:
Prisoner #1 - what's your excuse this time? Can you actually come up with ANYTHING that does not involve mentioned the name Obama?







:lol:

Deathby69 said:
So basically it might be the same as Obama's presidency?



By doing nothing Obama did more to support the legal cannabis movement than any other President before him. Sure he could have and probably should have done more, but It's not like he could have gotten anything passed by the republicans in congress anyways.

I'm still wondering where all the always Trumpers have gone... Senor Doobie? Qman? Perhaps we should just assume their silence means they are starting to realize that they were conned into voting against their own interests and freedoms. Probably sitting alone in a dark room with tears rolling down their cheeks, wondering why their savior would betray them like this.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin] * 1
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they are silent because they can't do propaganda to work against this latest information.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma] * 6
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akira_akuma said:
they are silent because they can't do propaganda to work against this latest information.



Well that's disappointing. I held these shills in higher regard. If they can't spin this wtf is Bannon paying them for?

From the Jeff Sessions thread a few weeks back:
Senor_Doobie said:
An attorney general's personal opinion on whether states should legalize marijuana is irrelevant to his job as US AG.  He doesn't dictate policy.  It's not in his job description...

So, is he going to go into states and start cracking down on pot?  I doubt Trump is interested in doing that.



Sean Spicer said:
(legal marijuana) is a question for the Justice department.




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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Prisoner#1] * 4
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I thought you were patriots, where's your fucking spine?

Are you just going to dally around and stick your thumbs up your asses proclaiming 'well legalization isn't that important..' as your countrymen are thrown into for-profit prisons for a victimless crime?

What the fuck do you stand for? A potato and a stock option?


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: twighead]
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Show me the way. How does one who wants to see the law changed on a state and federal level (dual level you see - very important point)

advocate or what have you, beyond ranting on forums and like pris said, sending 5 bucks to norml (bleh -norml!)
lmao.  It seems there is not a neat and cozy answer that I am aware of besides the beginning step of voting locally for someone with a sound stance on the subject - but also a sound stance on the others, a rare commodity to find in someone running.

Like I said, show me the way and I'll do what I can.  Rallying like a goofball on speed with seriously misguided intentions in a huge group in Washington is not my forte, and frankly usually is twisted and not seen for the advocating of policy change that is expounds and why it is the right thing to do , but is fodder for further propagation, or falls flat on its face as soon as the day is over with only a sticker reminding you that your awesome (which you are).


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
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trestreseis said:
Check it though; it would be low key; like I would just suggest to people that they take firearm safety and use classes and then if they were interested help them acquire a firearm legally. Then if enough people were down with that then I'd look for the process to which individuals can legally organize into a local militia (it's not as crazy as it sounds; matter of fact this is straight up old school founding father patriot shit and I've seen and heard of a few militia organizations people set up that were often formed or led by ex-military or police who knew what they were doing.

And the properties would likely be disconnected so it's not like it would be a giant group all in one camp; it'd be more just like a bunch of individuals that actually had the sense of a community and was trained and equipped to defend the freedom of the community and to protest actions by the government that they deem to be corrupt or wrong.  :



David Koresh thought the same thing.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: The Blind Ass] * 2
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someone should eliminate all the people involved in the drug war, and marijuana scheduling...literally. there's no arguing against that prospect. these people require destruction. their laws never made sense and was never righteous, moral, nothing of the sort.

it should never have existed. Pris is being absurd. if he's going to talk shit, well, this is what he should do instead...stfu, and go and eliminate the people responsible. the rest of America (you know, the country that invented this nonsense) should to.

you people are essentially responsible for people who, in their zeal for attaining political brownie points, made up, essentially, the worst decision ever made in legal history, and i call it the worst, because it literally had no precedent and had no cause to be done.

it's a kind of stupidity, that produces this, that cannot be summed up in words. it is ineffable.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma]
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'Ineffable.' Cute. :heart:

Oh well. Not like I was going to get every single thing in my wish-list for a candidate. I was hoping, but...My infinitesimal territory of the demographic pie doesn't lend itself to politicians clambering all over each other asking what I want.

Still, we'll see what actually happens, how far Trump/Sessions go.

And, when I say 'Oh well' what I really mean is 'oh, shit, that would suuck.' But it wouldn't change my support for Trump (unless he completely closed down all dispensaries, and I doubt very seriously). Good weather, walk outside. Bad weather, stay inside.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
you people are essentially responsible for people who, in their zeal for attaining political brownie points, made up, essentially, the worst decision ever made in legal history, and i call it the worst, because it literally had no precedent and had no cause to be done.



How am I responsible for something that happened decades before I was born? Maybe Pris is old enough to be responsible idk, but I think most people here are much too young to have had any chance to stop the controlled substances act from passing, or the marijuana stamp act back in the 30's.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
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The Blind Ass said:
Show me the way. How does one who wants to see the law changed on a state and federal level (dual level you see - very important point)

advocate or what have you, beyond ranting on forums and like pris said, sending 5 bucks to norml (bleh -norml!)
lmao.  It seems there is not a neat and cozy answer that I am aware of besides the beginning step of voting locally for someone with a sound stance on the subject - but also a sound stance on the others, a rare commodity to find in someone running.

Like I said, show me the way and I'll do what I can.  Rallying like a goofball on speed with seriously misguided intentions in a huge group in Washington is not my forte, and frankly usually is twisted and not seen for the advocating of policy change that is expounds and why it is the right thing to do , but is fodder for further propagation, or falls flat on its face as soon as the day is over with only a sticker reminding you that your awesome (which you are).



Depends where you live - the pathway to federal legalization/acceptance at this point seems to be state by state legalization, as most senators from legalized states seem to recognize their constituents will in this matter at a federal level. So if the state has already legalized, lobbying efforts should be made to the standing members of government to make sure they are ready to strongly resist any attempts to undermine state law. As has been done in California.

If you're in a state that hasn't legalized - then I would think one of the most effective things you could do is to organize, first at the personal level - then at the organizational/NGO level - then at the business level.. lobbying the state's congress on the benefits thereof - and perhaps even working with legal allies to draft rough example legislation. I feel like the inclusion of more 'professional' advocates, like legal/medical professions into the pro-cannabis movement was pretty instrumental where it's passed... Opponents to cannabis like to paint it as a lazeabout's drug - so successful allies are instrumental in smashing that appearance.

And honestly - I think it does matter to be vocal about your stance, maybe not so much on a forum but talking to people you know. I know I've moved at least a couple dozen or so people from so-so/anti-legalization into the pro-cannabis camp.. and I've also had the pleasure of voting in legal cannabis in two states :awesome: and I am sure that a lot of street level discussion was a reason for its eventual passing.


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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
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Dr. P. Silocybin said:
akira_akuma said:
you people are essentially responsible for people who, in their zeal for attaining political brownie points, made up, essentially, the worst decision ever made in legal history, and i call it the worst, because it literally had no precedent and had no cause to be done.



How am I responsible for something that happened decades before I was born? Maybe Pris is old enough to be responsible idk, but I think most people here are much too young to have had any chance to stop the controlled substances act from passing, or the marijuana stamp act back in the 30's.



well, some people would argue that the sins of the father....

some would argue nations are entities, in and of themselves, in the sense that all the people (of a nation) collectively belong under a banner.

several reasons why i chose the words.

if it wasn't for America's existence, as far as anyone can tell, there'd have been no absurd laws that make literally no sense and come from nothing.

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: twighead]
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I totally agree

Although I also think its going to regardless of what anyone does. I'm in my early 20s, and just about every single person I know either wants weed to be legal themselves, or has absolutely no issue with it being legal whether they smoke it or not. I can say with absolute surety that the majority of the younger generation wants it be legalized, and they are legitimately fighting for it. Universities all around the US have groups that rally and raise cash to help fund research into the benefits of cannabis. The recent pass for medical in Florida was pushed by the how active the youth were there on this issue. Its not even a "liberal state" thing, you go down south and the young people, and even some adults, fucking love weed. Seriously, the only people keeping the stigma going is the older generation that have been brainwashed to believe its poison. In my line of work I'm commonly around older people, 60+, and I've heard them speak about this issue numerous times. They dont really have anything to back up their reasoning, other than that "weed is very bad". Its just a "bad thing" in there mind, done by "bad people" who carry out "bad acts." Its actually infuriating, and I dont even currently use cannabis in any form

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
Dr. P. Silocybin said:
akira_akuma said:
you people are essentially responsible for people who, in their zeal for attaining political brownie points, made up, essentially, the worst decision ever made in legal history, and i call it the worst, because it literally had no precedent and had no cause to be done.



How am I responsible for something that happened decades before I was born? Maybe Pris is old enough to be responsible idk, but I think most people here are much too young to have had any chance to stop the controlled substances act from passing, or the marijuana stamp act back in the 30's.



well, some people would argue that the sins of the father....

some would argue nations are entities, in and of themselves, in the sense that all the people (of a nation) collectively belong under a banner.

several reasons why i chose the words.

if it wasn't for America's existence, as far as anyone can tell, there'd have been no absurd laws that make literally no sense and come from nothing.



Yea ok, because The British empire was a shining beacon of world wide human rights and tolerance... Alcohol is illegal in Arab nations because of the US?

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
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i am speaking figuratively about the laws in question in this thread...not literally, referring to things outside of this thread. :shrug:

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Re: Sean Spicer hints at crackdown on legal marijuana [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
if it wasn't for America's existence, as far as anyone can tell, there'd have been no absurd laws that make literally no sense and come from nothing.



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