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First Time Candyflip Questions
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Okay so I plan on candyflipping for the first time either this or next weekend most likely.
I'm experienced with psychedelics and have taken LSD a total of 7 times, my highest dose having been 550ug. I've taken MDMA once (somewhere between 125-175mg roughly). I've gotten them from reliable quality deepweb sources and both are indeed very pure and potent.
A friend of mine (who's also experienced and has candyflipped once before) and I want to trip together and take about 250ug of LSD and 150mg of MDMA, but I've got a couple questions first:
1) What's the best timeframe for taking them? LSD first and the MDMA 3 hours after LSD consumption?
2) Does 150mg MDMA provide a noticeable "crash" if one is on LSD or will it be very slight/non-existent?
3) Does the MDMA potentiate the LSD? If so, by how much? I've read it does but others seem to be claiming all it doss is simply overlay effects and "changes" the trip so I'm confused. Does it double/triple the visuals like weed does with acid? How intense will the trip be with the combination of these doses compared to taking around 200-250ug of LSD by itself?
4) When I took MDMA seemed to go by REALLY fast. Obviously, on acid, the opposite is true and time tends to slow down by a whole lot. Does this dose of LSD make the overall trip still go by slowly or will the MDMA's time-dilating effects make it seem go by quick regardless? I hope it'll seem slow because that's one of the things I love about psychedelics.
5) What if I add in a few bowls of cannabis to the mix? Will the MDMA pretty much kill off potential paranoia and allow me to smoke weed to potentiate the acid without* the possibly negative mindaet weed can bring about in combination with LSD or would weed during/right after the peak likely make one freak out either way?


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: MrSpadoodles]
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You've got a lot of questions.
Tonight will be my first time, so I'll comment another day whatever difference I've noticed.

Some people have more anxiety during trips after they smoke, I wouldn't know as I always smoke.


Here's my vague plan (+0  =  hours after first dose)
Will adjust by feel

+0 120ug LSD
+1 100mg MDMA
+5 100mg MDMA
+9  .5mg Xanax  (for sleep)
+11  .5mg if necessary

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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: MrSpadoodles]
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When I candy flip I take a tab of Lucy wait for it to kick in nicely and at the acid peak I eat the Molly. So 3 hrs is good.

The comedown be warned will be shitty.

The MDMA will over power the Lucy.

It will feel like a 3 hour full body orgasm with cool visuals rather than an acid trip.

Time will go by fast because whenever you feel that good, time flies by.

I personally don't like mixing weed with MDMA but I know some people who do.


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: Alexestalex]
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Pretty sure cannabis helps prevent some of the negative effects of MDMA to the brain/ body. Been awhile but I remember seeing some evidence for it.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: musiclover420] * 1
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musiclover420 said:
Pretty sure cannabis helps prevent some of the negative effects of MDMA to the brain/ body. Been awhile but I remember seeing some evidence for it.


Here's something on it.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20174577

Abstract
The majority of MDMA (ecstasy) recreational users also consume cannabis. Despite the rewarding effects that both drugs have, they induce several opposite pharmacological responses. MDMA causes hyperthermia, oxidative stress and neuronal damage, especially at warm ambient temperature. However, THC, the main psychoactive compound of cannabis, produces hypothermic, anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effects. Therefore, THC may have a neuroprotective effect against MDMA-induced neurotoxicity. Mice receiving a neurotoxic regimen of MDMA (20 mg/kg x 4) were pretreated with THC (3 mg/kg x 4) at room (21 degrees C) and at warm (26 degrees C) temperature, and body temperature, striatal glial activation and DA terminal loss were assessed.

To find out the mechanisms by which THC may prevent MDMA hyperthermia and neurotoxicity, the same procedure was carried out in animals pretreated with the CB(1) receptor antagonist AM251 and the CB(2) receptor antagonist AM630, as well as in CB(1), CB(2) and CB(1)/CB(2) deficient mice. THC prevented MDMA-induced-hyperthermia and glial activation in animals housed at both room and warm temperature. Surprisingly, MDMA-induced DA terminal loss was only observed in animals housed at warm but not at room temperature, and this neurotoxic effect was reversed by THC administration. However, THC did not prevent MDMA-induced hyperthermia, glial activation, and DA terminal loss in animals treated with the CB(1) receptor antagonist AM251, neither in CB(1) and CB(1)/CB(2) knockout mice.

On the other hand, THC prevented MDMA-induced hyperthermia and DA terminal loss, but only partially suppressed glial activation in animals treated with the CB(2) cannabinoid antagonist and in CB(2) knockout animals. Our results indicate that THC protects against MDMA neurotoxicity, and suggest that these neuroprotective actions are primarily mediated by the reduction of hyperthermia through the activation of CB(1) receptor, although CB(2) receptors may also contribute to attenuate neuroinflammation in this process.


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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:greenthumb:

Yeah that was what I was thinking of, always felt bad for people who do MDMA but don't like cannabis :lol: I want to say the same might go for alcohol but am not sure.


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Don't worry about me, I've got all that I need. And I'm singing my song to the sky

You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: musiclover420]
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The comedowns are no more difficult then that of a regular LSD trip for me, unless I go way overboard on the MDMA. Which I don't anymore. It's also doesn't necessarily overpower the LSD. It can, but with the proper dosage it just synergizes & amplifies everything. To where it can be confusing, until one realizes that things launched due to the MDMA.


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: Dark_Star]
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what about 5-mapb and real lsd?


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: MrSpadoodles]
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1. You said it.
2. Not for me.
3. Yes.
4. You will have to see.
5. I love smoking weed pretty much all the time.

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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: wigglewak]
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Okay, this seems to pretty much answer all of my questions except by how much MDMA amplifies the intensity of the LSD trip and how the time dilation will be.. would time perhaps go by at the same pace as being sober given that's a strong dose of LSD counteracted by a typical MDMA dose? Or is MDMA's time dilating effect so strong it'll just completely blow LSD's ability to slow time down out of the water?


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The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: MrSpadoodles]
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The last time I candy flipped, I did the molly about three hours into the L, and when they clicked it became more than the sum total. If it goes well you will experience the wonderful effects of LSD time dilation and it may seem to last forever, or fly by. It will probably be a bit of both as MDMA can bring out emotionally intense things in me so it's not all sunshine and roses. Just gotta go ahead and see. I highly recommend waiting until you got your legs in the LSD peak to move ahead on the flip. I'm always inclined to flip it super early but trust me and wait.

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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: wigglewak]
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Candy flipping is awesome but I love kitty flipping  100x  more! Kitty flipping is acid + MDMA + ketamine :homerdrool:


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: Alexestalex]
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Ah, I had the opportunity to get some K just now but I decided on spending my money on a ton of acid instead lol. I love acid :lol:


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The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
- Allan Watts

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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: MrSpadoodles]
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Well you played yourself because K is the best drug on the planet and way more fun than acid :lol:


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: Alexestalex]
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ehhh idk dude, I'd eather be able to get 15 more 110ug tabs than 0.5g of K. I mean, I've never tried it but that's only like 5 doses worth, which is 1/3 as much as the acid and it only lasts about 1-2 hours compared to about 12


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The meaning of life is just to be alive. It is so plain and so obvious and so simple. And yet, everybody rushes around in a great panic as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
- Allan Watts

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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: MrSpadoodles]
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180 hours of tripping vs 10 :shrug:


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- Allan Watts

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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: Alexestalex]
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Huh. Never heard of kittyflipping before. My personal favorite is LSD/Mushrooms + MDMA + opiates with benzos for the comedown.


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: MrSpadoodles]
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To answer your question about time distortion, my experience last night was slowed down from the LSD, the MDMA didn't seem to counteract it at all

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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: Repertoire89]
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Isn't candy flipping the bees knees? :homerdrool:


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Re: First Time Candyflip Questions [Re: Alexestalex]
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The trip derailed into introspection before I even dropped the mdma, so I didn't really have the opportunity to enjoy it properly. Visuals were magnificent, and the whole feeling was amazing, but I was distracted.

Will try it again

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