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4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin.
    #23643194 - 09/13/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

New to the forum. Fairly experienced now with Psychedelic mushrooms and now 4-aco-dmt. On one of my recent trips, about 3 quarters of the way through I came to the realization that I'm a Womb Twin Survivor (my mom miscarried my twin brother)

I've been trying to cope ever since. Showing all the signs of classic grief for the last week and a half or so.

This post is going to serve as a form of a therapy for me. Ask away I do alot better at answering questions than posting a long thing of details.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: LoneTwin87]
    #23643271 - 09/13/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Aww well im sorry to hear that, what are some ways you cope? Hopefully positive ways, have you known about being a twin survivor? I take it you have and the psychedelics brought out your suppressed thoughts about it?

Well i hope you enjoy the shroomery! Positive vibrations your way!


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23643273 - 09/13/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Just know that every thing is temporary things will always change and evolve it's a driving force of the cosmos !


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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23643287 - 09/13/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well...talking about it and asking for help (directly) shouldering the grief from trusted friends.

The trip brought it out I had no real idea about it before. When I read up on it after coming down I figured out I matched the symptoms 100%


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: LoneTwin87]
    #23643298 - 09/13/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah psychedelics can definetly decently and will definetly bring forth things in your subconscious and make you look at them face on , for me usually I try to look at it in a different light (perspective) and try to figure out where to go from there


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54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #23643308 - 09/13/16 10:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's a beautiful thing..just knowing. But I'll be okay one minute and not so good the next. That's what I'm having a hard time with.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: LoneTwin87] * 1
    #23643857 - 09/14/16 05:31 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Psychedelics are known for delusion. I have no reason to accept the validity of your statement and neither do you. Ask your parents if you feel that strongly about it. Sorry to be blunt but it honestly doesn't matter. I have an almost 40 year old half brother out there but I give no shits tbh. There's no reason to grieve, which makes me think you're deluding yourself in to this fantasy as a way to cope with other feelings you are having a hard time coming to terms with. Regardless, if you're going to do psychedelics you need to realize that a lot of what is going to come through your head is delusional. I mean give me a break, you got high, said "I have feelings this must be true" then validated that statement by broadly vague descriptions of symptoms online. Psychedelics are beautiful but also a lot of bullshit. Don't forget that.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23643943 - 09/14/16 06:49 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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XLCaps said:
Psychedelics are known for delusion. I have no reason to accept the validity of your statement and neither do you. Ask your parents if you feel that strongly about it. Sorry to be blunt but it honestly doesn't matter. I have an almost 40 year old half brother out there but I give no shits tbh. There's no reason to grieve, which makes me think you're deluding yourself in to this fantasy as a way to cope with other feelings you are having a hard time coming to terms with. Regardless, if you're going to do psychedelics you need to realize that a lot of what is going to come through your head is delusional. I mean give me a break, you got high, said "I have feelings this must be true" then validated that statement by broadly vague descriptions of symptoms online. Psychedelics are beautiful but also a lot of bullshit. Don't forget that.




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There's a lot of psychedelic "bullshit" that comes up during trips that may need rational, sober analysis.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: I Love Lucid]
    #23644337 - 09/14/16 10:56 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

This was confirmed with my mother a few days after the trip.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: LoneTwin87]
    #23644368 - 09/14/16 11:13 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Well maybe that should have preceded "I looked it up online." Regardless, don't grieve, nothing has changed. And surely don't put so much thought in to shit you think when you're tripping. You might have been right that time, but don't expect any kind of pattern. I used to know I was Jesus and the focal center of the known existing universe with telepathic powers and reptilian caretakers, because I tripped too much, now I don't. Get what I'm saying? I don't want to come off as a dick and I'm sorry if I have, it's just something that needs to be said when people take their tripping minds too seriously. The best thing you can do is let your feelings and thoughts wash over you like a wave. Castles made of sand.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23644430 - 09/14/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I'm experienced. I understand what you are saying.  But, it isn't your place to tell me what I should grieve about and what I shouldn't just because you don't give any fucks about your HB.

This hasn't been easy. Unfortunately, losing my womb twin has had a profound effect on my life way before I ever knew I had one and way before any of the psychadelic "bullshit" as you call it.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: LoneTwin87]
    #23644495 - 09/14/16 12:16 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

You're right it's not my place, but you're the one that made the topic open forum so that's your failing if you can't handle judgement. Greiving decades later about someone you never knew, regardless of your relationship with that person aside from parents, just screams to me, "I self-analyzed the wrong thing."


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #23644503 - 09/14/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Very fresh to me, guy. I didn't find this out decades ago. It's been a few weeks.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: LoneTwin87]
    #23644515 - 09/14/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Don't make yourself a victim.


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Re: 4-aco-dmt and Discovery of twin. [Re: Eggtimer]
    #23644528 - 09/14/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Not, grieving is necessary.


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