Bigbadwooof said:

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

Bigbadwooof said:

Here's a story of a Turkish immigrant you should read, Qman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/business/a-windfall-for-chobani-employees-stakes-in-the-company.html?_r=0

Zappa would do well to read it also, given his recent silly comment on the value of employees.

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nice one, i was going to post this. Great story.

also..this just in.. London just elected its first Muslim mayor.

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No surprise at all, considering that native Britons are now a minority in their own capital city.

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I actually was posting this mostly to address Zappa's comment that employees don't matter.

Your comment is pretty irrelevant to the post I made regardless. The real point here is that this immigrant came to their country, and along with his employees, built his company from the ground up, then split the wealth accordingly. He made millionaires out of working class people. He gave back to the community that his success was built upon. He demonstrated an appreciation for his fellow man.

If you're going to post countless articles/videos attacking immigrants, maybe you could step back, and appreciate an article which illustrates a silver lining to your perceived plight.

Edit: Just realized you were responding to Tipote. Regardless, I am leaving my post. We ought to celebrate such extraordinary people as the man in my post.

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Bubbles85 said:

I was pointing out that these people, people born over seas, are now the majority in our capital city. A phenomenon that has occurred in less than 20 years.

Also, Some parts of London are now almost 50 per cent Islamic. Some thing that will have had a clear impact on the results of this election.

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Malkuthian said:

Bubbles85 said:

I was pointing out that these people, people born over seas, are now the majority in our capital city. A phenomenon that has occurred in less than 20 years.

Also, Some parts of London are now almost 50 per cent Islamic. Some thing that will have had a clear impact on the results of this election.

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Oh, was that what you were doing.
I thought you were using this as an argument to show why Sadiq Khan was elected and to show that he does not represent the "native" population.

Or was the context in which you brought up the Islamic presence in Britain not relevant at all?

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Bigbadwooof said:

If you're going to post countless articles/videos attacking immigrants, maybe you could step back, and appreciate an article which illustrates a silver lining to your perceived plight.

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Bubbles85 said:

Bigbadwooof said:

If you're going to post countless articles/videos attacking immigrants, maybe you could step back, and appreciate an article which illustrates a silver lining to your perceived plight.

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Also, i don't post countless articles/videos attacking immigrants. I am opposed mainly to Islam and mass immigration. (note: not immigration, MASS immigration)

Just like you seem to oppose Islam and mass immigration in many of your posts.

The only difference, is that you consider your self liberal, so no one tries to dirty up your name for it. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me ...

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The Ecstatic said:

Would you have opposed the mass immigration of Irish to this country?

Why or why not

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I wouldn't, because Irish people are fucking hilarious. Plus, I like the pope, as I've said. We'll take a few more Catholics

Bubbles85 said:

Malkuthian said:

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

also..this just in.. London just elected its first Muslim mayor.

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No surprise at all, considering that native Britons are now a minority in their own capital city.

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Well, it seems he's appreciated by white peoples as well...
It's not like white people didn't want him but he won anyway.

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White people are not the only people i consider native to Britain. We have had black people living here for centuries and they're as British as any white native.

Other ethnic minority's (not really minority's at all now) have only been coming to the UK for a few decades.

I was pointing out that these people, people born over seas, are now the majority in our capital city. A phenomenon that has occurred in less than 20 years.

Also, Some parts of London are now almost 50 per cent Islamic. Some thing that will have had a clear impact on the results of this election.

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qman said:

Tipote said:

Bigbadwooof said:

Here's a story of a Turkish immigrant you should read, Qman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/business/a-windfall-for-chobani-employees-stakes-in-the-company.html?_r=0

Zappa would do well to read it also, given his recent silly comment on the value of employees.

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nice one, i was going to post this. Great story.

also..this just in.. London just elected its first Muslim mayor.

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Most Muslim's must hate him.

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Bigbadwooof said:

Tipote said:

Bigbadwooof said:

Here's a story of a Turkish immigrant you should read, Qman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/business/a-windfall-for-chobani-employees-stakes-in-the-company.html?_r=0

Zappa would do well to read it also, given his recent silly comment on the value of employees.

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nice one, i was going to post this. Great story.

also..this just in.. London just elected its first Muslim mayor.

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Well, I'm not exactly rooting for Islam, so that really has no impact on me lol. I hate all religion. When I say hate, I mean utterly loathe. Islam is probably at the top my the list of religions I hate, also. Christianity is a verrry close second. I like the pope though. So there's that.

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Tipote said:

Bigbadwooof said:

Tipote said:

Bigbadwooof said:

Here's a story of a Turkish immigrant you should read, Qman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/business/a-windfall-for-chobani-employees-stakes-in-the-company.html?_r=0

Zappa would do well to read it also, given his recent silly comment on the value of employees.

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nice one, i was going to post this. Great story.

also..this just in.. London just elected its first Muslim mayor.

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Well, I'm not exactly rooting for Islam, so that really has no impact on me lol. I hate all religion. When I say hate, I mean utterly loathe. Islam is probably at the top my the list of religions I hate, also. Christianity is a verrry close second. I like the pope though. So there's that.

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Its not really about Islam, I know your feelings on religion. your article and this news are just both examples that muslim immigrants are integrating and assimilating which qman et al struggle to acknowledge is mostly a positive experience.

The Pope is awesome.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I would say that the article is demonstrative of the fact that yes, Muslims can integrate (of course). Let's not extrapolate too far from there though. When they start forming ghetto's and creating prayer towers in Western societies, I don't consider that integration.

My half brother's dad is from Kuwait. He was a Muslim, and he came to America to study. He used to beat the shit out of my mom, and wouldn't let her out of the house. He was very abusive. His friends were the same way to the women they were with. None of them integrated, and none of them graduated.

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Bubbles85 said:

Malkuthian said:

Bubbles85 said:

I was pointing out that these people, people born over seas, are now the majority in our capital city. A phenomenon that has occurred in less than 20 years.

Also, Some parts of London are now almost 50 per cent Islamic. Some thing that will have had a clear impact on the results of this election.

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Oh, was that what you were doing.
I thought you were using this as an argument to show why Sadiq Khan was elected and to show that he does not represent the "native" population.

Or was the context in which you brought up the Islamic presence in Britain not relevant at all?

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So you believe that a 50% Islamic population in many parts of London, has had no impact on the out come of a Muslim being elected London mayor?

You do realize that only people who actually live in London can vote for this right?

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The Ecstatic said:

Would you have opposed the mass immigration of Irish to this country?

Why or why not

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Bigbadwooof said:

Bubbles85 said:

Bigbadwooof said:

If you're going to post countless articles/videos attacking immigrants, maybe you could step back, and appreciate an article which illustrates a silver lining to your perceived plight.

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Also, i don't post countless articles/videos attacking immigrants. I am opposed mainly to Islam and mass immigration. (note: not immigration, MASS immigration)

Just like you seem to oppose Islam and mass immigration in many of your posts.

The only difference, is that you consider your self liberal, so no one tries to dirty up your name for it. Kind of hypocritical if you ask me ...

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Fair enough. I think most liberals around here are not on the same page as me, as far as this issue, but I may be wrong. I don't know how open boarders became some sort of liberal virtue. I think it is a delicate matter that must be handled accordingly. There is a reason we don't just let anyone from Iraq/Afghanistan pick up and move to the US. We should apply a similar assessment of all migrant people.

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Tipote said:

Sorry.. but if youre going to keep using that 50% figure, can you back it up please?

Yes, London is about 45% white british https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London#2011_Census

but it is about 12% islamic, not 50%. That is your perception, not reality.

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Malkuthian said:

Bubbles85 said:

Malkuthian said:

Bubbles85 said:

I was pointing out that these people, people born over seas, are now the majority in our capital city. A phenomenon that has occurred in less than 20 years.

Also, Some parts of London are now almost 50 per cent Islamic. Some thing that will have had a clear impact on the results of this election.

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Oh, was that what you were doing.
I thought you were using this as an argument to show why Sadiq Khan was elected and to show that he does not represent the "native" population.

Or was the context in which you brought up the Islamic presence in Britain not relevant at all?

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So you believe that a 50% Islamic population in many parts of London, has had no impact on the out come of a Muslim being elected London mayor?

You do realize that only people who actually live in London can vote for this right?

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Did I say they have no impact?
No. Of course they have a lot of impact.
But those 50% you are talking about seem to be a lie though... Yet another one.

The point I was making is that the elected person seems to be a good representative of the native population. Based on his view on politics I would say he does not seem to represent Muslims the way you describe "them" in this thread... Could you please explain whats problems you have with his politics?

I cannot see what point you think you are making by stating that it's no surprise the he was elected when "50%" of the voters are Muslims. It doesn't seem relevant at all.

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Bigbadwooof said:

The Ecstatic said:

Would you have opposed the mass immigration of Irish to this country?

Why or why not

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I wouldn't, because Irish people are fucking hilarious. Plus, I like the pope, as I've said. We'll take a few more Catholics

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The Ecstatic said:

Bigbadwooof said:

The Ecstatic said:

Would you have opposed the mass immigration of Irish to this country?

Why or why not

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I wouldn't, because Irish people are fucking hilarious. Plus, I like the pope, as I've said. We'll take a few more Catholics

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I phrased the question in past tense, implying youd be an average person in 1850 or so.

Still yes?

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Bubbles85 said:

The Ecstatic said:

Would you have opposed the mass immigration of Irish to this country?

Why or why not

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People have every right to oppose any immigration that promotes racial segregation. Mass immigration is the biggest cause of this.

Racial segregation is a huge issue with the Muslim population in Britain, who fight to conserve their religious ideologies, by way of living completely separate lives from the rest of the country.

Many are simply refusing to integrate and mass immigration has allowed that to happen.

This is well documented. With many polls, such as from ICM confirming that fact.

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