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Psilocybe mescaleroensis
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Hi everyone.  I'm interested in hunting this species.  I live about 15 miles from Mescalero, and from the description below, I can visualize exactly the area these shrooms thrive in--about 7000 feet altitude, where the scrub pine/savannah is changing into the more alpine mountain region of southern New Mexico. 

My question:  When would be the best time to have a chance of finding these rare shrooms?  At 7000ft here, we are talking freezing temps at night until about mid june, with 75 degree days.  What temperature range would be the best to search in, and would my chance increase greatly a day after heavy thunderstorms? (Which start in mid-June in the mountains here)

Pans are quite common here in the high altitudes in wet summers, where farmers are grazing cattle on forest service land.  So, for the Mescaleroensis species, do you think the best time would be, say, 40~50 degree nights, moderately warm days, with lots of moisture? 

Thank you everyone, I appreciate the advice.  I know how to find the desert actives, but I'm a rookie at shrooms. 

"Grows scattered to gregariously on dead grasses, in grasslands and savanna near ponderosa pine woodlands, often near gopher holes. Found in the summer and fall in the Sierra Blanca range of New Mexico, near Mescalero, New Mexico. So far it has only been collected in or near the type locality."

I's love to find a few of these and post a ton of pics, if I'm lucky enough!


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Re: Psilocybe mescaleroensis [Re: starfire_xes]
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Sounds about right to me, but I think it's a relatively rare species and not a lot is known about it. It'd be dope if you manage to document it and take notes of environmental conditions.

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Re: Psilocybe mescaleroensis [Re: o8u]
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Yea, well, I am RIGHT HERE where it grows, and I know exactly the terrain--the buffalo grass, ponderosa pines, the gopher holes, hell I can drive and in 20 minutes be standing in a field exactly like is described, right around Sierra Blanca (White Mountain) on the Mescalero reservation. 

The problem is, it is usually pretty dry and hot in the summer, until the thunderstorms hit. 

At that time you can sometimes find Pans (and Gyms according to a friend of mine) but I've never really tried.  I know there is a shitload of shrooms of all different sizes, types and colors growing after thunderstorm season starts.


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Re: Psilocybe mescaleroensis [Re: starfire_xes]
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I noticed that I posted three years ago about this search, but it never fruited.


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Re: Psilocybe mescaleroensis [Re: starfire_xes]
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There are two recorded finds of this species, both in August.  You should start looking after the first rains, especially if they are in July, and keep looking until October.  Check 2 - 14 days after rain.

Let me know if you find some.

Here is a find from Arizona:

http://mushroomobserver.org/92234

When I was in Mexico I studied the holotype, which is in Xalapa.  http://mushroomobserver.org/162774

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