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was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst?
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I'm rediscovering Nirvana's lyrics to be a lot more pussy-whipped than actually teen-angst. The industry portrayed them as this teen-angst band just because of their song title "Smells like teen spirit". That song was actually based on Kurt's ex girlfriend telling him that he smelled like Teen Spirit which was a popular deodorant then. In other words he hasn't gotten over that ex. Looking at their lyrics it reveals that Kurt was a pussy-whipped man. I never knew what he was saying to begin with then which I liked, but now I'm reading their lyrics that it has become clear that women had a negative impact on Kurt. Look at the stories floating around regarding his 2 exes before Courtney. Look at one of his live shows mentioning his ex girlfriend "Tobi" on the song "Lounge Act" played live in Brazil (after the song). Ultimately, his demise came from a bimbo (Courtney Love). She may have played head games with him. Anyone disagree? Anyone in their 20's would have such game, especially if you were with a bimbo that you married and you just started making money. What a suicide.

Edited by CLIT (10/08/14 02:26 AM)

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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: CLIT]
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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: Faustoid]
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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: Faustoid]
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Kurt is that you?

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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: CLIT]
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I dig Nirvana's music (especially the album Bleach) but never understood how he was some kinda hero or sumptin...

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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: Dilsnique]
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He had a lot of angst in many cases.

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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: DeltaCepheid]
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So do a lot of the heavier bands. The argument here is that nothing about Nirvana was teen-angst other than the song title of their popular song had "teen" on it. Yet that song has nothing to do with being a teen as I mentioned but rather it was a song title that was derived from what Kurt's ex girlfriend (Tobi) told him how he smelled like which was the deodorant popular at that time called Teen Spirit. The story went like that...

Also, why Nirvana was supposedly considered the last big rock band ever? I thought lots of rock bands post Nirvana sold more records than Nirvana in a shorter period of time (ex: Creed, Nickelback, Linkin Park, Bush, etc.). Maybe it's nothing more than PR fodder?

Edited by CLIT (10/10/14 01:31 AM)

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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: CLIT]
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I've had a lot of bump ins with some pretty heavy hitting drugs and nothing comes as close to emotionally crippling me than girl issues. I'm sure Kurt was the same way, he was in his mid-20s, there was no teen angst to write actual passionate songs about. Just heroin and ladies, and ladies seem to have fucked with him more.


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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: Snotfish] * 1
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none of his songs were teen-angst but it fell in that category due to the song "Smells like teen spirit" which had NOTHING to do with teen-angst at all. I explained where that title came from at the start of thread.

And I agree with you, especially when one is still young, inexperienced or who does not know how to cope. I think women are just as affected as men which is why women are the way they are BECAUSE of men (?), which in turn gets into a cycle of things. It just goes on and on. There's a reason why men do the shit that they do and women do the shit that they do. It's because of each other, the opposite sex, etc.

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I've had a lot of bump ins with some pretty heavy hitting drugs and nothing comes as close to emotionally crippling me than girl issues. I'm sure Kurt was the same way, he was in his mid-20s, there was no teen angst to write actual passionate songs about. Just heroin and ladies, and ladies seem to have fucked with him more.


Edited by CLIT (10/15/14 05:38 AM)

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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: CLIT]
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was cobain damaged by Ritalin or was it responsible for actually helping him get creative? I would assume it had activated his dopamine system at some point. This article stated he was on Ritalin as a child:

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/MN0000095243/biography

I don't think Adderall was around in his day since it came out in the late 80's I think? Ritalin was around in the 70's so that may have been the first line treatment kinda like what Vyvanse or Adderall are now the first line treatment (Ritalin as well).

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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: CLIT]
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Teen spirit can work as an analogy for both meanings. Your understanding of teen angst does not meet most others. Yes Nirvana was full of it. Nirvana is a weird band as both the last great rock band due to the changing landscape of the music industry in the last 25 yrs but also the first great band of the new landscape.


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Re: was Kurt Cobain's lyrics more pussy-whipped angst than actually teen-angst? [Re: airclay]
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His lyrics are way more than either of those things man. You can't define his turmoil from just Courtney Love. I mean he had freaking chronic stomach ulcers, clearly he was dealing with some crazy shit man. Although he was definitely pussy whipped by a bimbo lol. Not the best ingredient for an already chaotic recipe...


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