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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
No one is being forced to know them but that is just a life of isolation in this globalised world. Perhaps you would prefer ethnically pure states?

actually about the german vote.. it should be remembered that while Merkel lost many votes, there were many votes that went to leftist groups in Germany who support the acceptance of refugees. That is not to say that people arent pissed off about refugees, but that this isnt unanimous.


"Perhaps you would prefer ethnically pure states?"

I think the vast majority of EU citizens don't want Africans and Muslims invading their homelands, I don't think German's mind if a citizen from a bordering nation enters their country, bringing in third world people has been a proven failure.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
Bubbles85 said:
I'm not dyslexic and i don't make many spelling mistakes as far as I'm aware?


yeh you do quite a bit but its not a big deal, i pointed it out because it was funny considering the discussion topic.
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You do make them too. Every poster does.


true
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I rush to post some times, but most of what i say is at least easy to understand.


yeh, more or less.
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Edit. Just wanted to add, that it was the civilisation of Great Britain, the people, that are responsible for the industrial revolution and the success of the country. Not just resources.


I agree.. and it was also the sacrifices made my colonised peoples. Vast wealth was taken from other countries, this is just a fact. Empire is Empire.


Didn't colonized people also have the same opportunities as the British, why did they end up in the predicament they found themselves in? :lol:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Malkuthian]
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Malkuthian said:
viktor said:
circastes said:
Might as well tend to my thread! :smile:

German far-right makes historic gains

"NIGHTMARE for Merkel: Leader humiliated as Germany sends a crushing message in polls"

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/652280/Angela-Merkel-CDU-German-elections-defeat-regional-elections-immigration-refugee-policy


Man, that's scary news. Hopefully the German government will stop listening to people like Tipote and Malkuthian before the Nazis come back into power.


You don't even know what political actions I suggest...

I have only reasoned against lies, hate and misconceptions, I haven't said that many words about my own political viewpoint. You know very little about this, if anything at all.

But your doing like everyone else and assuming that because a person does not agree with you regarding some statements, he is a part of "the other side". I.e. straw man bullshit, again. This is the reason why I don't participate more in the thread; there is no room for debate, there is only room for defense against lies based on stereotypes. You think you know "my type", because that's easier than having to accept that the world isn't that black and white. It seems you need to oversimplify stuff to be able to create a concept easy enough for you to understand. You do the same thing when speaking about "Muslims" or "refugees"....


134 pages into the thread and you still haven't offered a solution. Let's hear it then.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85 said:
Industrial Revolution
From Wikipedia

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The Industrial Revolution began in the United Kingdom and most of the important technological innovations were British.



Everyone in the world, including Tipote, knows that the Industrial Revolution was a British phenomenon.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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Good times in East London, what a fucking shitfest disaster. :facepalm: 


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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whoa, a Britons First propaganda video of them protesting mosques and such...OOOOOOOOOO

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
whoa, a Britons First propaganda video of them protesting mosques and such...OOOOOOOOOO


Yeah, it's all staged actors performing. :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Good times in East London, what a fucking shitfest disaster. :facepalm: 




This looks like the Christians are severely in the wrong. Also, the background music makes the video seem a lot worse than it is.


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Edited by Bigbadwooof (03/15/16 12:53 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
akira_akuma said:
whoa, a Britons First propaganda video of them protesting mosques and such...OOOOOOOOOO


Yeah, it's all staged actors performing. :huxleyfacepalm:


going to a mosque to incite hatred toward Muslims, telling them "ME FIRST ME FIRST" is liable to bring out the worst qualities in people.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
qman said:
akira_akuma said:
whoa, a Britons First propaganda video of them protesting mosques and such...OOOOOOOOOO


Yeah, it's all staged actors performing. :huxleyfacepalm:


going to a mosque to incite hatred toward Muslims, telling them "ME FIRST ME FIRST" is liable to bring out the worst qualities in people.


Actually, I can't tell what's going on exactly. If they're just protesting with picket signs and shit, then they do have the right to be there, and speak their mind.


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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 2
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missing the point, however.

the video is of the Britain First group doing what the usually do, go to mosques and Muslim neighborhoods and rabblerouse as loudly and vindictively, to aggravate crowds. it's like some one went someplace predominantly white and was like "white people you've taken the land! it's not yours! you're thieves and you're bastards!"

and all that rabblerousing would do what, you imagine? do you not think people would show up to voice their grievances to your boisterous presence. people don't have to simmer down just because someone else is loud with a crowd. now i don't agree with some of the sentiment being pushed on the Muslim side there either...but i do think they (some, not all, probably) are meeting rabble with rabble and simply trying to get a rise out of them by saying what they (the Muslims) think it is that they (the Brits) wanna hear to confirm their "paranoia". i really do think some of the people who are saying "it's our country now!" really DO mean it as if they're "taking over" but that's just obviously dumb pandering to a very small minority, whom obviously always doesn't have a clue how easily the Brits would formal remove them all...they are the minority though. most of the Muslims i see in their video however do not say things like that, and some though, that do, i think just are 'saying it', to basically piss them off, you know, from a high place (mod mentality).

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
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akira_akuma said:
qman said:
akira_akuma said:
whoa, a Britons First propaganda video of them protesting mosques and such...OOOOOOOOOO


Yeah, it's all staged actors performing. :huxleyfacepalm:


going to a mosque to incite hatred toward Muslims, telling them "ME FIRST ME FIRST" is liable to bring out the worst qualities in people.


You may have a moral or ethical objection, but they are perfectly within their right to do so. People morally object to gay pride parades too.

I think I'm with Enlil 100% when he says that freedom of speech is the foundation upon which all other freedoms rest. Paraphrasing, but that seems to be the case in my mind. All authoritarian regimes have the same attitude toward free speech, and there is a reason for that. I hate watching my generation belittle just how precious the right to free speech is. Moreover, I find it appalling that this rhetoric is by and large coming from the left.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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ignoring what i just said will not help your case. yeah, i've already stated they are within their rights, look above...i just said that you've already missed the point of what i said, with that conjecture. maybe address the point, which i tired to make clearer. if it's not clear enough, -- or unless you have anything to say to it, -- please let me know what you think.

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Moreover, I find it appalling that this rhetoric is by and large coming from the left.


left, right, none of that matters here? by left, do you mean stupid private coddle collage insipid SJWs? that is not a "left" thing, not in any way...it's an 'extremism'. a sort of cultural Marxist slant on "liberty" which is a misnomer on their part, to be titled such as. because they are obviously, well, the catch-phrase is 'regressive' (although it only seems to have come to define the SJW/Feminist (/Muslim -- because people like to conflate all enemies in one giant super turd for them to battle, apparently, instead of being rational) even though by definition, for example, conservative values, as opposed to progressive values (liberal values), are purely 'regressive' -- only literally: Conservatism: 1 "Commitment to traditional values and ideas with opposition to change or innovation" -- ie, they are literally, by rote requirement, regressive in the instance of change, or in otherwords, progressivism, or eg liberalism...and yet the conservatives are the ones mainly throwing the term around. it's preposterous, but it's culturally defined now, isn't it? at least on the internet, but we all know how quick those things catch on nowadays.

Edited by akira_akuma (03/15/16 03:43 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
yeh you do quite a bit but its not a big deal, i pointed it out because it was funny considering the discussion topic.


Dude, you've done it again. You insist on adding the extra "O" to the word too in my post and then spell shit wrong your self :lol: You repeatedly spell words incorrectly in your reply's, so you're damn straight it's not a big deal if i do it as well.

So, no. Not funny. Maybe if you could spell properly your self, but clearly you can't.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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viktor said:
Bubbles85 said:
Industrial Revolution
From Wikipedia

Quote:
The Industrial Revolution began in the United Kingdom and most of the important technological innovations were British.



Everyone in the world, including Tipote, knows that the Industrial Revolution was a British phenomenon.


I know right. Clearly just another BS attempt to try and make out like Britain and the rest of the developed World "yet again" some how owes the Third World and the people who live there. Its getting fucking old :facepalm:


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Edited by Bubbles85 (03/15/16 05:54 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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What made me laugh was Tipote's assertion that the British "stole technology" from the colonies.

Just so unbelievably :facepalm:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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The Rise of the Far Right is a fundamental reaction to the collapse of society brought on by authoritarian Statist government. 

Societies Rot From the inside.  The outright rejection of religion, family values, the family structure, and morals at some level causes the rot to permeate through the lower levels of society; however, one must note that the rot has first eroded the structure of a people's government, leading to tyranny, loss of freedom, rights, and liberty, and ultimately, the destruction of the middle class.

In the end, the people are left with a controlling, authoritarian, iron-fisted government This is the essence of statism, whether it arises from Capitalist or socialist government/economic systems.

The concept of 'Opium of the Masses,' attributed to Karl Marx, is well seen as one of the basic means of destruction of a society in order to institute an authoritarian, all-powerful government structure.

This was realized in the rise of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, all of whom used destruction of family structure to cement their control of the people.

In the US, we see this happening in the destruction of the black families in the inner city.  Was that the purpose of Lyndon Johnson's 'New Society' ?  After all, it was Johnson who said, and I quote this, "I'll have those niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years"


Note that this can happen from government using the 'Opium of the MaSSES' TO CONTROL the people, as happens in the middle eaST. 

Those are the reasons the first line of the first amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Notice it says Congress; it says the people have free exercise of Religion at their choice.  What do we have in the US?  People attacking people to try to suppress their freedom of religion under the guise of 'Offending Someone'  This leads to the aforementioned decay of society as a whole.

That is the reason I think the far right has risen; it is a reaction against the controlling governments.  And the same thing is happening in the US.
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Edited by starfire_xes (03/15/16 07:02 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
qman said:
Good times in East London, what a fucking shitfest disaster. :facepalm: 




This looks like the Christians are severely in the wrong. Also, the background music makes the video seem a lot worse than it is.


I think BOTH groups did some wrong, that's why I called it a shitfest disaster.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
I think BOTH groups did some wrong, that's why I called it a shitfest disaster.


Agreed.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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Good post Akira. I feel like SJW leftism is alienating a lot of people who would otherwise support left-wing politics. It is so childish, and I hope it comes to an end soon.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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