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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Hence why i stated, that all Muslims, be them good, or bad, push to change the way that laws and politics work, within any given adopted country, to better suit their own beliefs and ideologies.




Starter said:
100% true. Watch this: 1.33 to 3.09





:cheers:

Starter said:
Bullshit. He, like you, found it news that conservatives accept the science of Climate Change. To Leftists it's almost impossible that conservatives will accept Climate Change, because the Left has hijacked and monopolised the issue as a way for global socialism i.e. wealth redistribution to the third world based on carbon taxes. The Left also wants to open Western borders for hundreds of millions of Climate Change refugees. The Syrian war was the result of drought through climate shift. It was the catalyst to spark a brutal war not seen since the Spanish Civil War. There is much published on this.

Climate Change is accepted by the military and by all with the sense to see the cultural threat of hundreds of millions of third world invaders seeking to parasite a better life in the West. The solution is to build borders of deadly force and to harden the hearts of the population against the threat. The threat has already bought in third world regressed cultures of Islam's rape and plunder, third world diseases, and the trouble of their failed states to our nations.

The planet is vastly over populated and Climate Change is nature's way of arbitrating a correction because humans refuse to regulate themselves. Part of the regulation is to not allow successful nations be invaded by the failed.



Some interesting points on CC there. I think we all agree that the science of CC is real :thumbup:

I'd never looked at it from the perspective of the far left, using it as a weapon to open the borders to Climate Change refugees. Pretty shocking really, but some thing i have no doubt they would orchestrate and push for.

Edited by Bubbles85 (02/29/16 07:21 AM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
Wow.  Just wow.

How do you propose to provide revenue for social programs if not by taxing and spending?

Isn't the idea that social programs make everyone more prosperous according to socialists?

If you're about to say; just print it! 

#1 inflation is a tax

#2 I've never seen you talk about changing the monetary system.



You can tax a country into economic collapse. You can't 'tax your way to prosperity'. There is much more to it than that, which is why nobody has made that argument. I certainly would never suggest printing money to pay for things lol! I would rather tax to pay for things :wink:... As far as changing the monetary system, I would certainly advocate some reforms in the way banks handle money. For instance, they shouldn't be able to loan money they don't have.

Federal, State, and Local government spending combined accounts for roughly 40% of American GDP as it is. The government is the greatest 'job creator' in America. Without taxation and government spending, our economy as it stands right now, would collapse.

If tax money is spent on useless goods, like 100's of nuclear warheads we will likely never use, or bases in Afghanistan that we know will never be used when construction begins, continued to be built long after we've left the area, and then paid to be demolished, etc... certainly, we can be taxed into oblivion. It's silly Republican policy that would tax you into the poor house, bro :wink:


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FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
I certainly would never suggest printing money to pay for things lol!



No one has suggested that either.  More :cuckoo: from the right.

Bigbadwooof said:
If tax money is spent on useless goods, like 100's of nuclear warheads we will likely never use, or bases in Afghanistan that we know will never be used when construction begins, continued to be built long after we've left the area, and then paid to be demolished, etc... certainly, we can be taxed into oblivion. It's silly Republican policy that would tax you into the poor house, bro :wink:



:thumbup:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Bubbles85, it's a concerning development.
Upwards of 145 million Asians affected by a 1 metre rise in sea level. Much of that number will be from Muslim Bangladesh, a very backwards and poor third world. The Left would want to foist them on Europe, the US and Oceania (Australia and New Zealand). The Refugee Council, and the Greens, are mainstream Leftist organisations in Australia with international Leftist connections. It's a frightening scenario to further turbo-charge Islamisation into the West under the labeling of environmental refugees.

http://www.greencrossaustralia.org/our-work/climate-adaptation/climate-change-refugees-%E2%80%93-the-human-impact.aspx

Asia is most affected

Major coastal cities and/or areas with major river deltas where dense populations live and agriculture is productive are most at risk from sea level rise. Most of these areas are in Asia.


https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/docs/current/2010_party_election_policies.pdf

8.) ENVIRONMENTAL REFUGEES The Greens would plan for climate change refugees with a particular focus on the Asia-Pacific region. They would ensure that Australia adopts a definition of environmental refugee in its assessment criteria and works in the UN system for inclusion of a definition in the United Nations Refugee Convention.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Bigbadwooof said:
I certainly would never suggest printing money to pay for things lol!



No one has suggested that either.  More :cuckoo: from the right.

Bigbadwooof said:
If tax money is spent on useless goods, like 100's of nuclear warheads we will likely never use, or bases in Afghanistan that we know will never be used when construction begins, continued to be built long after we've left the area, and then paid to be demolished, etc... certainly, we can be taxed into oblivion. It's silly Republican policy that would tax you into the poor house, bro :wink:



:thumbup:



If I had a money printer I might though. I'd at least print $2,700 to donate to Bernie.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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On the off chance you live in Oregon, the state will reimburse up to $50 for a political campaign contribution when your file your taxes.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Thanks for the read :cheers:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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Muslims gangs in UK raping young white girls.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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in the interview it's said this has been goin on since the early 90's. It seems much more organized crime rings than the organized religious activities as you're presenting it.

Organized crime rings can form from any sort of shared bond of criminals but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond. So this means that the root issue here is still criminality rather than a shared religion.


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Give no fucks, take no orders, smash the prisons and the borders. Circle that A motherfucker!

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
in the interview it's said this has been goin on since the early 90's. It seems much more organized crime rings than the organized religious activities as you're presenting it.

Organized crime rings can form from any sort of shared bond of criminals but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond. So this means that the root issue here is still criminality rather than a shared religion.




"but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond"

They are bonded genetically, culturally, and religiously. They don't even see themselves as criminal in nature.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
airclay said:
in the interview it's said this has been goin on since the early 90's. It seems much more organized crime rings than the organized religious activities as you're presenting it.

Organized crime rings can form from any sort of shared bond of criminals but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond. So this means that the root issue here is still criminality rather than a shared religion.




"but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond"

They are bonded genetically, culturally, and religiously. They don't even see themselves as criminal in nature.



I see myself as criminal...

So sexy, it's criminal...

:freewilly:


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
FARTS
"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
qman said:
airclay said:
in the interview it's said this has been goin on since the early 90's. It seems much more organized crime rings than the organized religious activities as you're presenting it.

Organized crime rings can form from any sort of shared bond of criminals but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond. So this means that the root issue here is still criminality rather than a shared religion.




"but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond"

They are bonded genetically, culturally, and religiously. They don't even see themselves as criminal in nature.



I see myself as criminal...

So sexy, it's criminal...

:freewilly:



Cuz of the mushrooms and shit. :cookiemonster:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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qman said:
airclay said:
in the interview it's said this has been goin on since the early 90's. It seems much more organized crime rings than the organized religious activities as you're presenting it.

Organized crime rings can form from any sort of shared bond of criminals but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond. So this means that the root issue here is still criminality rather than a shared religion.




"but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond"

They are bonded genetically, culturally, and religiously. They don't even see themselves as criminal in nature.



Bullshit, yes they do stop pushing some fake narrative based on your personal racism. Everyone is connected genetically, culturally and religiously but not everyone is criminally connected. Therefore the issue isn't the other bonds but the criminal bond that must make a connection for organized crime to happen. The root issue is organized crime no matter how you'd like to spin it or connect it to a shared race or religion qman.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay] * 1
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I'll catch up with the discussion properly soon but just wanted to post a couple of relevant things..

Radikale Rechte

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After falling for years, xenophobic extremism in Germany is on the rise

ANTI-MIGRANT violence in Germany has become so severe over the past year that it is a miracle that no refugee has yet been killed. In one case, inebriated thugs threw a Molotov cocktail through a window into a room where an 11-year-old refugee would have been sleeping, had he not crept into bed with his mother in another room. Another xenophobe fired a gun into a refugee home and hit a Syrian man in the leg. Elsewhere, someone lobbed a hand grenade into a processing centre for asylum seekers. It did not go off.

There were 13,846 “right-extremist” crimes in Germany in 2015, according to preliminary estimates, about 30% more than in 2014. Of those, 921 were violent. This year the pace has accelerated, especially in the former East Germany. On February 18th about 100 people in Clausnitz, in the eastern state of Saxony, tried to block a bus carrying 20 refugees, including children. In another Saxon city a cheering crowd interfered with firefighters dousing flames in a building being converted into an asylum home. One police chief warns of a “pogrom atmosphere”.

Fears of a xenophobic backlash in otherwise-tolerant societies have been rising since the refugee crisis began, and not only in Germany. Right-wing populism is also growing in the Netherlands, as well as in Sweden, which like Germany entered the crisis with liberal asylum policies that are now being tightened. But Germany has taken by far the most refugees, with 1.1m arriving last year alone. And because of its history, Germany is extra-vigilant about extremism on the far right. The supreme court will soon consider an attempt by the 16 federal states to ban the NPD, a party that looks and smells like a neo-Nazi party. Germany also has a small subculture of violent, explicitly neo-Nazi networks.

When it comes to less extreme populism on the right, however, Germany is an exception in the European Union: it has no far-right party as firmly established as France’s National Front or Austria’s Freedom Party. Germany’s political mainstream long seemed to have been inoculated by the Nazi past. As recently as 2014, a biannual survey of right-wing attitudes in Germany found that xenophobia, chauvinism, anti-Semitism and authoritarian longings were declining. Rightist worldviews were held by just 2.4% of the population, down from almost 10% in 2002. Yet even at the time, Andreas Zick of the University of Bielefeld, a co-author of the study, said the middle was fragile: xenophobia could increase again in a crisis.

It probably started growing in 2014, even before refugee numbers surged, when the “Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident” movement, or Pegida, began weekly marches through Dresden. After waning last spring, it has waxed again with the refugee crisis. Meanwhile the populist Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, founded in 2013 to oppose euro-crisis bail-outs, has veered to the xenophobic right.

Pegida and the AfD have similar supporters. Pegida marchers tend to be older middle-class men anxious about social decline and cultural alienation, says Hans Vorländer, co-author of a new book on the movement. Pegida and the AfD have not merged, he says, only because their leaders loathe each other. But the AfD has ridden the anti-refugee backlash to score more than 10% in national polls. It is likely to do well in three regional elections on March 13th and to enter the federal parliament in 2017. Mr Zick thinks it has a potential voter share of 20%. Germany seems at last to be like the rest of Europe in having an entrenched populist party on the right.

Worse, the data Mr Zick is collecting for his next study, due in May, suggest that the middle of society is becoming radicalised. This is most evident in the rise of verbal aggression. A leader of the AfD recently suggested that border guards should “make use of their firearms” to keep refugees out. Facebook and Twitter are abuzz with hate speech. This “radicalisation of rhetoric blurs the boundaries between physical and verbal violence,” says Mr Vorländer.

Heiko Maas, Germany’s justice minister, is worried. He has invited his counterparts in the 16 states to a summit on March 10th to think up strategies against extremism. But as refugees continue to arrive, Germany’s tolerance and moderation are being tested as never before in its post-war history. The firewall it has built between respectable conservatism and the extreme right may be breaking down.





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War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote] * 1
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Migrant crisis: Russia and Syria 'weaponising' migration

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Russia and Syria are deliberately using migration as an aggressive strategy towards Europe, the senior Nato commander in Europe has said.

US Gen Philip Breedlove said they were "weaponising" migration to destabilise and undermine the continent.

He also suggested that criminals, extremists and fighters were hiding in the flow of migrants.

Migrants are continuing to accumulate in Greece, after Macedonia stopped allowing more than a trickle through.

New figures suggest last year's total of one million seaborne migrants could be matched well before the end of the year.

The International Organization for Migration (IOM) said nearly 129,500 migrants had arrived by sea so far in 2016, plus another 1,545 by land. It said 418 had drowned or were missing.

The European Commission has now adopted plans to disburse €700m (£543m; $760m) of emergency humanitarian funding between 2016-18 to help tackle the crisis, says humanitarian aid commissioner Christos Stylianides.

The crisis has caused tensions to surge, with Greece struggling to cope with the influx and the European Commission criticising Macedonia for using tear gas on a crowd of migrants on Monday morning.

"The scenes we just saw are not our idea of managing the crisis," said EC spokesman Margaritis Schinas.

In the Jungle camp of migrants in Calais, France, the demolition of the southern half of the camp continues - in what the government has termed a humanitarian operation but which critics say will just leave hundreds of desperate migrants without shelter in winter.



Europe seems to destabilising itself anyway. As I've said repeatedly before, concentrating the problem in Greece is not going to help anything, that is unfortunately what is happening now. Merkel has come out and said this herself.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
qman said:
airclay said:
in the interview it's said this has been goin on since the early 90's. It seems much more organized crime rings than the organized religious activities as you're presenting it.

Organized crime rings can form from any sort of shared bond of criminals but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond. So this means that the root issue here is still criminality rather than a shared religion.




"but the catch is they must be criminals to form this bond"

They are bonded genetically, culturally, and religiously. They don't even see themselves as criminal in nature.



Bullshit, yes they do stop pushing some fake narrative based on your personal racism. Everyone is connected genetically, culturally and religiously but not everyone is criminally connected. Therefore the issue isn't the other bonds but the criminal bond that must make a connection for organized crime to happen. The root issue is organized crime no matter how you'd like to spin it or connect it to a shared race or religion qman.



"The root issue is organized crime"

If this was the case the members of the organization would also include a diverse group with non-Muslims, women, senior citizens, ect, but that's NOT the case.

"spin it or connect it to a shared race or religion"

It's NOT "spin" when the reality is that Muslim men inside of the EU are 100% responsible for these sex rings.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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But Italian organizes syndicates did not? Asian syndicates in America and in Asia do not. Your assumptions are incorrect from the get go. These gangs do share a race religion but they're acting together on a criminal bond that must be treated as so. Tackling the issue thru race or religion tends towards intolerance and xenophobia of a larger group disconnected or in opposition of the criminal acts.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
But Italian organizes syndicates did not? Asian syndicates in America and in Asia do not. Your assumptions are incorrect from the get go. These gangs do share a race religion but they're acting together on a criminal bond that must be treated as so. Tackling the issue thru race or religion tends towards intolerance and xenophobia of a larger group disconnected or in opposition of the criminal acts.



If there were 57 Polish organizations of men (in Germany) going around kidnapping, torturing, and murdering young German children, I would be the first to say this is because of their Polish bond, and the German people would be completely RATIONAL and NOT xenophobic about their feelings on this issue.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: qman]
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You're just going to ignore the fact that it takes criminal bonds above and beyond that of the polish bond to make these events possible. The events that are in fact the issue. And then pretend that it's rational. Yeah okay that's non sensical


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay] * 1
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airclay said:
Tackling the issue thru race or religion tends towards intolerance and xenophobia of a larger group disconnected or in opposition of the criminal acts.



So what you're saying is, you may not question why groups of Muslim and Asian men, are racially targeting and raping, only white females, because that makes you intolerant and xenophobic to the entire Muslim or Asian population.

This is exactly the reason we've had two decades, of consistent and unquestioned abuse, of young white females in the UK, by these gangs and I'm sorry to say it, but the perpetrators of these crimes, fucking know it as well.
:huxleyfacepalm:

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