Bigbadwooof said:

Enlil said:

America has a long and proud tradition of invading foreign countries and raping the women there.  Hell, the tradition predates the formation of the United States.  I don't see how this is any worse.

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Worse or not, it's not a comparable situation at all. Americans were not invited to come rape other ppl's women, and if we had been invited, and acted like that, we would have been booted, or gone to war.

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qman said:

Shit getting real in Germany.

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Bubbles85 said:

Icelander said:

If you want to be a guest in my house leave your religion at the door.

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We can all but dream

Although i contest all religion, there is only one that is causing more trouble for the citizens of Earth than all of them combined.



Sure there's plenty of Christian fuck tards in places like Africa, but in the West, their shit be pretty straight.

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Icelander said:

Bubbles85 said:

Icelander said:

If you want to be a guest in my house leave your religion at the door.

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We can all but dream

Although i contest all religion, there is only one that is causing more trouble for the citizens of Earth than all of them combined.



Sure there's plenty of Christian fuck tards in places like Africa, but in the West, their shit be pretty straight.

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Not in my opinion.  Christians left out of check would decide your fate if you're  gay, or want and abortion, and on and on.

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Actually, in England, there are more Anglicans now in favor of same sex marriage, than there are that oppose it.
Most of the opposition in the UK, comes from the leadership of the Church of England and the majority of those people are a bunch of old coffin dodgers, who are not in check with modern England

Tipote said:

Or rather that everything is political. eg. if you bomb a people, those people will resist you whether that means peaceful demonstrations, armed uprisings or even terrorism. religion can be a useful tool especially in these situations.

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Tipote said:

i agree. both of them are pretty out of touch but slowly things are changing

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Holly shit, that last video is shocking. Fucking perverted scum bags. Fuck Islam

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and this is why this thread has been goin for so long, because you can't stop within the realms of rational thought, you continuously fall back into xenophobic rhetoric damning giant swaths of people that have nothing to do w what you're talking about.

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Lmao! You want leftists to hang their head for following the agreements made in the Geneva convention? Fine fine fine. We are so sorry for being men of our word. Now you must hang your heads for denying climate change, and imposing austerity on those very same women at every turn.

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Who gives a shit about the Geneva convention when your homeland is being invaded by a bunch of people that aren't even official "refugees"?

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Enlil seems to be likening the refugee/migrant influxes to invading armies, hes starting to sound like Starter! Doesn't sound like our lovable mod.

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Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

Or rather that everything is political. eg. if you bomb a people, those people will resist you whether that means peaceful demonstrations, armed uprisings or even terrorism. religion can be a useful tool especially in these situations.

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But the people who protest in the UK (i.e radicalized Mulims) "because i assume that is who you are referring to here" Are not being bombed, or mistreated. They have full equal rights in the UK and are actually treated very well.

They need to shut the fuck up imo.

If they hate democracy and the UK so much, fucking move out.

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Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

i agree. both of them are pretty out of touch but slowly things are changing

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Islam's not just pretty out of touch, it's very out of touch. Compared to western reform on many modern issues, it's down right monolithic.

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Icelander said:

And sometimes its not always about religion, its about politics. Or rather that everything is political. eg. if you bomb a people, those people will resist you whether that means peaceful demonstrations, armed uprisings or even terrorism. religion can be a useful tool especially in these situations.


Oh I agree. We had a hand in all this imo but it doesn't change the reality that those religious beliefs are dangerous. The less of them the better. I don't want any more religious crazies here then we have already. I'm totally against importing them unless they are willing to abandon their religious beliefs. I'd feel bad about saying that if I could find something really positive about these religions.  I wish it was otherwise.

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Starter said:

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and this is why this thread has been goin for so long, because you can't stop within the realms of rational thought, you continuously fall back into xenophobic rhetoric damning giant swaths of people that have nothing to do w what you're talking about.

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Typical leftist cowardice and BS from airclay who not only declares no borders, he absurdly claims the regressed third world Muslim culture deserves a place in Europe; and for that matter the West proper. Ignoring the countless brave Europeans over the centuries that fought the Mohammadens which ensured the West existed. His pitiful guilt spin on xenophobia here and past ad nauseum is bereft and banal. Only a fool buys into these shoddy emotive accusations of e.g. Islamophobia/racist labelling whilst ignoring the consequences of allowing in inferior cultures.

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do you know about the thousands of the muslims that fought for the Allies during the war?

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Lmao! You want leftists to hang their head for following the agreements made in the Geneva convention? Fine fine fine. We are so sorry for being men of our word. Now you must hang your heads for denying climate change, and imposing austerity on those very same women at every turn.

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Bigbadwooof, they’re invaders and illegal and in breach of the laws you exalt. Untold numbers are not refugees let alone Syrian. As for your obfuscation i.e. raising irrelevant topics: first, women in Australia have full rights under this conservative government; second, I suggest you cease your Americo-centric view, as Australia’s conservative government accepts anthropogenic Climate Change.

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What laws are refugees breaking?
Do you accept misogyny is widely present amongst aussies? Have you heard of Tony Abbott? LOL
BBW wasnt talking about australia, true. He wasn't saying that Australia denied climate change It doesnt make him US-centric in his thinking. Hes often the first to say that conservative means different things in different parts of the world.

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They’re just criminal opportunists who should be repelled with deadly force to send the necessary signal to their fellow further interlopers that the penalties are harsh and ruthlessly enforced.

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all of them are criminals?

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Enlil seems to be likening the refugee/migrant influxes to invading armies, hes starting to sound like Starter! Doesn't sound like our lovable mod.

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Tipote, Elil shares much with your social justice warrior ideology and this has been evidenced to me by his ban bias. This is why he is lovable to you. I have provided facts, links, statistics, math, and rather than debate the issues the path of his least resistance is censorship - I expect this of intellectually weak Leftists. Fact: the immigrants are an invading army as they’re mostly fighting age males with rape and plunder their key objectives. Worse, they’re enabled by a fifth column and hence the rise of the Right to correct this treachery.

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Your fact is just not a fact. "rape and plunder their key objectives" lol
As a memeber of the far-right, you must love this.

Enlil is hardly lovable to me. We have had our clashes too actually. He is certainly the best mod on this subforum, Prisoner #1 is a fucking douche IMO. Enlil does not subsribe to -isms and actually is more or less fair. I'm sorry you are so butthurt about your ban

I find your posts almost funny, almost.

Tipote said:

Bubbles85 said:

Tipote said:

Or rather that everything is political. eg. if you bomb a people, those people will resist you whether that means peaceful demonstrations, armed uprisings or even terrorism. religion can be a useful tool especially in these situations.

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But the people who protest in the UK (i.e radicalized Mulims) "because i assume that is who you are referring to here" Are not being bombed, or mistreated. They have full equal rights in the UK and are actually treated very well.

They need to shut the fuck up imo.

If they hate democracy and the UK so much, fucking move out.

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So only the bombed people have a right to complain? People in the UK whether they are muslim, christian, fucking jedi, can still protest on behalf of someone.

We can connect to these people being bombed and demonstrate in solidarity.

Those muslims within the country that protest have more direct ancestral links to the region. Just because they are in the West maybe even for many generations, doesnt mean they will forget their roots and family history. But as i've said, this not the more necessary component. It is being human.

About democracy.. many people - not just muslims- are disappointed and not represented in our democracy. Our version of democracy is very flawed and democracy is dangerous without an educated and informed populace. Muslims or non muslims still protest and demonstrate as part of the democracy. Yes you can find many who choose other means but if people are demonstrating its because they are following democratic protocol.

Maybe all poor people should leave the UK too then because they aren't represented properly by their democracies?

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Tipote said:

Enlil seems to be likening the refugee/migrant influxes to invading armies, hes starting to sound like Starter! Doesn't sound like our lovable mod.

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