Bubbles85 said:

Blah blah blah. Move to the Middle East then and preach you're BS over there. Good bye

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Way to debate the issues, Bub!..

Tipote said:

Bubbles85 said:

Blah blah blah. Move to the Middle East then and preach you're BS over there. Good bye

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Way to debate the issues, Bub!..

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viktor said:

Are any of the open borders crowd on here willing to take a refugee or homeless person into their own house? Or is the whole idea that someone else will pay for it?

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Bubbles85 said:

I have nothing further to debate with this member. Her logic is no different to that of the far right.

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Tipote said:

viktor said:

Are any of the open borders crowd on here willing to take a refugee or homeless person into their own house? Or is the whole idea that someone else will pay for it?

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so by that logic if you are unable to take a refugee then they should be denied refuge completely?
I'm sorry but that is some weak ass logic.

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viktor said:

Are any of the open borders crowd on here willing to take a refugee or homeless person into their own house? Or is the whole idea that someone else will pay for it?

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Malkuthian said:

qman said:

Malkuthian said:

But you seem perfectly okay with this when speaking about groups of your own choosing.
Why is that?

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I point out specific facts from those groups based on evidence in the real world, that's the difference.

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Well, I can do the same. Crime statistics in America compared to Sweden is really bad. Etc.
Here's some examples:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22671036#22671036

If you can claim that it's okay not to accept Muslims because their culture is bad,
then I can, with exactly the same rhetoric, claim that it's okay not to accept Americans because their culture is bad.

When I do this you flame about bigotry.
When you do this it's okay.

Why is there a difference?

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"claim that it's okay not to accept Muslim because their culture is bad"

Not that it's "bad", it doesn't mix in with Western culture. 

They shouldn't come into the West because there's not enough work available and governments can't afford to support them. The reasons are purely economic.

night_shift said:

viktor said:

Are any of the open borders crowd on here willing to take a refugee or homeless person into their own house? Or is the whole idea that someone else will pay for it?

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As if refugees want to be treated like pets and are just looking for a home to take them. This is disgusting.

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qman said:

Malkuthian said:

Well, I can do the same. Crime statistics in America compared to Sweden is really bad. Etc.
Here's some examples:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22671036#22671036

If you can claim that it's okay not to accept Muslims because their culture is bad,
then I can, with exactly the same rhetoric, claim that it's okay not to accept Americans because their culture is bad.

When I do this you flame about bigotry.
When you do this it's okay.

Why is there a difference?

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"claim that it's okay not to accept Muslim because their culture is bad"

Not that it's "bad", it doesn't mix in with Western culture. 

They shouldn't come into the West because there's not enough work available and governments can't afford to support them. The reasons are purely economic.

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night_shift said:

qman said:

night_shift said:

viktor said:

Are any of the open borders crowd on here willing to take a refugee or homeless person into their own house? Or is the whole idea that someone else will pay for it?

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As if refugees want to be treated like pets and are just looking for a home to take them. This is disgusting.

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How much personal sacrifice are you willing to make to accommodate "refugees" into your community?

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Do you mean in case there was international agenda to accommodate people? In this case, my couch is free most of the time and it could serve as a crashing point.

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"my couch is free most of the time"

Maybe you truly believe that you would let strangers live in your house for free and totally inconvenience your life, but I don't buy it. You wouldn't last 48 hours.

Malkuthian said:

American culture "does not mix", whatever that means, with Swedish culture either.
Is that argument reasonable?

And there's enough work for here Americans, just not for Muslims?
or what?

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Malkuthian said:

qman said:

Malkuthian said:

Well, I can do the same. Crime statistics in America compared to Sweden is really bad. Etc.
Here's some examples:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22671036#22671036

If you can claim that it's okay not to accept Muslims because their culture is bad,
then I can, with exactly the same rhetoric, claim that it's okay not to accept Americans because their culture is bad.

When I do this you flame about bigotry.
When you do this it's okay.

Why is there a difference?

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"claim that it's okay not to accept Muslim because their culture is bad"

Not that it's "bad", it doesn't mix in with Western culture. 

They shouldn't come into the West because there's not enough work available and governments can't afford to support them. The reasons are purely economic.

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American culture "does not mix", whatever that means, with Swedish culture either.
Is that argument reasonable?

And there's enough work for here Americans, just not for Muslims?
or what?

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viktor said:

Tipote said:

viktor said:

Are any of the open borders crowd on here willing to take a refugee or homeless person into their own house? Or is the whole idea that someone else will pay for it?

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so by that logic if you are unable to take a refugee then they should be denied refuge completely?
I'm sorry but that is some weak ass logic.

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The logic is that if you want other people to pay to let refugees into their territory, i.e. their country, then you should be willing to let refugees into your territory, i.e. your house.

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qman said:

The reasons are purely economic.

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LOL

qman said:

"my couch is free most of the time"

Maybe you truly believe that you would let strangers live in your house for free and totally inconvenience your life, but I don't buy it. You wouldn't last 48 hours.

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Tipote said:

Its a moral duty to help genuine refugees. We've been over this time and time again. This problem has only grown to such proportions because no one wanted to deal with the issues years ago. Thats also why you have places like the Calais Jungle.

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Bigbadwooof said:

Malkuthian said:

American culture "does not mix", whatever that means, with Swedish culture either.
Is that argument reasonable?

And there's enough work for here Americans, just not for Muslims?
or what?

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American culture mixes great with Swedish culture. We love hot blondes, coffee, and PewDiePie... What am I missing here?

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