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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: luvdemboomers]
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I some contract work out of my shop.  Mostly food testing and some development work.  I've got a benchtop centrifuge that works great.

A simple water extraction of pods gives me a tar.  The goodies are in there but its not what i want.  To get a dry powder I've switched to pH 11.5 ammonium hydroxide, mix at room temperature overnight, centrifuge/filter out solids.  Dry the liquid.  Seems pretty good but still not as potent as I need. 

Theres got to be an easy way to get rid of the nausea causing fraction ... thats all i really need to do


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What is now proved was once only imagin’d    -William Blake

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: Lucis]
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Fennario said:
Connoisseur said:
No legs in comparison to H or what are you comparing it to?

I don't see how this is possible




Heroin lasted forever for me, I never found the appeal or most pill opis compared to good heroin, never got as high from any pill even doing 160mg OC's in a day would be pale in comparison to 0.3grms of good dope.

Heroin would last forever it seemed like, usually a good sized push would last 3-5 hours for me.  Morphine would give me a huge rush, then fade away and just make me really itchy for about 30 mins.

I was shooting quick dissolve morphine barrels which turn to liquid with just a bit of water on them.



wtf man the problem is you're shooting and doing it way too oten. the oxycodone high lasted me like 8-10.

When I take 20g of Kratom I feel the effects for up to 12 hours, though the high itself only lasts like 4

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: Coacervate]
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Well think about this 160mg is only half of the 300mg of H you were doing by weight and who knows if possibly other things were in the H besides H

If you did 100mg IV of OC and 100mg of H IV would would that stack up?

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: Connoisseur]
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I think they are pretty similar mg per mg but H is obviously never pure

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: morrowasted]
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Clearly not but still :shrug:

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: Connoisseur]
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H makes you feel heroic? hmmm if its anything like hydrocodone for me at least it feels like the greatest warm empathy blanket of love and free of anxiety. I'm not sure that heroic is the right description however interesting to know the history behind the name. I feel opiates heal emotional trauma as well as physical I feel my depersonalization healing when I use and I feel I take something a way from the high and I use occasionally interesting maybe its because im dissociated I dont feel the need to be so dependent on it?


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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: Patlal]
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I can tell you right now I'm allergic to it.


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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: 2141zach]
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2141zach said:
H makes you feel heroic? hmmm if its anything like hydrocodone for me at least it feels like the greatest warm empathy blanket of love and free of anxiety. I'm not sure that heroic is the right description however interesting to know the history behind the name. I feel opiates heal emotional trauma as well as physical I feel my depersonalization healing when I use and I feel I take something a way from the high and I use occasionally interesting maybe its because im dissociated I dont feel the need to be so dependent on it?



It made some of the first people who took it feel heroic

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: Connoisseur]
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Connoisseur said:
2141zach said:
H makes you feel heroic? hmmm if its anything like hydrocodone for me at least it feels like the greatest warm empathy blanket of love and free of anxiety. I'm not sure that heroic is the right description however interesting to know the history behind the name. I feel opiates heal emotional trauma as well as physical I feel my depersonalization healing when I use and I feel I take something a way from the high and I use occasionally interesting maybe its because im dissociated I dont feel the need to be so dependent on it?



It made some of the first people who took it feel heroic



Thats cool I can see that in a way, do you know who those people where? have a source unless you already posted it and I didn't see it. Or is it more a tale thats been past down?


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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: 2141zach]
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2141zach said:
H makes you feel heroic? hmmm if its anything like hydrocodone for me at least it feels like the greatest warm empathy blanket of love and free of anxiety. I'm not sure that heroic is the right description however interesting to know the history behind the name. I feel opiates heal emotional trauma as well as physical I feel my depersonalization healing when I use and I feel I take something a way from the high and I use occasionally interesting maybe its because im dissociated I dont feel the need to be so dependent on it?



Opiates and opioids heal emotional and physical trauma temporarily. Nothing good can come of chronic, abusive opioid usage.
All opioid users feel like they have found a cure to there problems, they use occasionally and don't abuse it, until the high and euphoria gets so awesome they can't stop.
Story of every opioid addict that ever existed. :shrug:

But, that's how opiates and opioids work; the way they interact with our opioid receptors, our endogenous opioid system naturally provide pain relief, rewarding successful behavior for us to survive and flourish (orgasms, laughter, love, etc) and how we feel internally.
They are literally chemicals that mimic our reward system.


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Pain is temporary. It may last for a minute or an hour or a day or even a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it will last forever.

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: daz01]
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daz01 said:
2141zach said:
H makes you feel heroic? hmmm if its anything like hydrocodone for me at least it feels like the greatest warm empathy blanket of love and free of anxiety. I'm not sure that heroic is the right description however interesting to know the history behind the name. I feel opiates heal emotional trauma as well as physical I feel my depersonalization healing when I use and I feel I take something a way from the high and I use occasionally interesting maybe its because im dissociated I dont feel the need to be so dependent on it?



Opiates and opioids heal emotional and physical trauma temporarily. Nothing good can come of chronic, abusive opioid usage.
All opioid users feel like they have found a cure to there problems, they use occasionally and don't abuse it, until the high and euphoria gets so awesome they can't stop.
Story of every opioid addict that ever existed. :shrug:

But, that's how opiates and opioids work; the way they interact with our opioid receptors, our endogenous opioid system naturally provide pain relief, rewarding successful behavior for us to survive and flourish (orgasms, laughter, love, etc) and how we feel internally.
They are literally chemicals that mimic our reward system.



Arnt most hard drugs? granted opiates are pretty interesting in that regard both stimulating and sedating.


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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: Lucis]
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Fennario said:
Connoisseur said:
No legs in comparison to H or what are you comparing it to?

I don't see how this is possible




Heroin lasted forever for me, I never found the appeal or most pill opis compared to good heroin, never got as high from any pill even doing 160mg OC's in a day would be pale in comparison to 0.3grms of good dope.

Heroin would last forever it seemed like, usually a good sized push would last 3-5 hours for me.  Morphine would give me a huge rush, then fade away and just make me really itchy for about 30 mins.

I was shooting quick dissolve morphine barrels which turn to liquid with just a bit of water on them.



That's because OC's last so short especially IV, that's why you can take subs only 12 hours after your last OC dose, whereas you have to wait 24 hours from your last heroin shot.

OC's IV for me last not very long, the high itself only lasts 30-90 minutes and you have to keep shooting it up and shooting it up.

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Re: New Painkiller May Be A Safer, Non-Addictive Alternative to Morphine [Re: 2141zach]
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2141zach said:
Connoisseur said:
2141zach said:
H makes you feel heroic? hmmm if its anything like hydrocodone for me at least it feels like the greatest warm empathy blanket of love and free of anxiety. I'm not sure that heroic is the right description however interesting to know the history behind the name. I feel opiates heal emotional trauma as well as physical I feel my depersonalization healing when I use and I feel I take something a way from the high and I use occasionally interesting maybe its because im dissociated I dont feel the need to be so dependent on it?



It made some of the first people who took it feel heroic



Thats cool I can see that in a way, do you know who those people where? have a source unless you already posted it and I didn't see it. Or is it more a tale thats been past down?




The head of Bayer's research department reputedly coined the drug's new name, "heroin," based on the German heroisch, which means "heroic, strong.' Bayer scientists were not the first to make heroin, but their scientists discovered ways to make it, and Bayer led commercialization of heroin.

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