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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Repertoire89] * 3
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Repertoire89 said:
Starter said:
It hurt yer feelunz, eh.

Seriously, I stepped in to put this thread back on topic since the moderator sure hasn't, whilst correcting the ignorance on basic Australian parties/terminology.

The key issue of this thread is the allegation there is a rise of the "Right-wing" in Europe, as if they're the ones at fault.

What is happening is the Left has (through treason) flooded Europe in Islamic rapefugees and the centre of the road folks have had a gutful. Now because these every day folks have been ignored and even slagged off as bigots, racists and Islamophobes, they will go where their voice will be heard -- yes, the right-wing.

Now I have already said in this thread the Left has created this emergency. It's absolute chutzpah that the Left blame the right-wing for the friction when it was the Left that invited in millions of undesirable pests that started this shitfest.


Hysterical...

I would say the refugees were let in to create a common enemy, to distract Europe from larger issues. The political establishment in Berlin and Brussels doesn't care about refugees, and I don't care if they consider themselves L or R.

The Far Right does appear to be on the rise, whatever that's worth.


This might be the most intelligent stance on it I've read yet, even as a libtard myself I like it repertoire


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said:
Starter said:
It's typical of the Left to create the emergency and then blame their enemies, which happen to be anyone concerned about the insanity of enabling an Islamic invasion.


Actually this is exactly typical of the right. Fear-mongering, and blaming groups of people.


Nail on the head.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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Yes, this could very well be.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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it wouldn't be just to let them all fucking die at the hands of the storm infused with guns and fervor perpetrated by -- mainly -- the US.

but of course....then again, it would be nice to not have to deal with misery,-- even if it's someone else's misery that one had caused another.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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You been to New Caledonia? I have, as I have across Oceania and South East Asia.
The Kanaks are none too pleased with the French overlords, in whatever guise they may be i.e. making coin while incurring a corporation environmental fail.

https://newcaledoniatoday.wordpress.com/tag/violence/

As for the Aboriginals in Australia, too many wallow in a pity-pit demanding yet more welfare handouts. High time they got on board and took advantage of the many opportunities in employment and education given specifically to the indigenous. You can research these programmes yourself.

Back on track to this thread, it pains the Left to see the Australian border control method working and it angers them that it could be scaled up for the rest of the West to employ. Remember, no one else sits just south of the largest Muslim population in the world and yet keeps the millions of varmints out. Had Australia had the same spineless Euro-weenie Leftist cowardice downunder we'd have long ceased to be.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 3
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Starter said:


The key difference between the Australian colonists and the Islamic scourge invading Europe is the colonists created a first wold nation from what was a stone age, where as the Islamic scourge will destroy Europe and plunge it into a third world.


well it depends on where your standing which of those situations is worse. but what you're saying is that it's ok to villify nationalities and religions as a whole, treat them inhumanely and steal their shit as long as "as you see it" you turn it out for the better?

not even masking his pig-dom, skip the capitalism straight to colonialist pig  :tardpig:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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you were once the varmint. your mind...tiny...cannot grasp this concept, and thus you will always be victim to your own ploy at every turn.

and anyone being treated as secondary citizens will revolt. France isn't "clean" -- not by any respect. nor Australia.

and refugees aren't illegals.

think. use that headmeat up there.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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So let's do a poll on how long it will take Europeans to start building gas chambers again on their horrifically overpopulated continent.

I say 20 years.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: viktor]
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first it was the Jews...then it was the Muslims...next it could be YOU.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
Shins said:
Answer one simple question;  how will you enforce the state collective and make non-consenters join and stay?


here's the thing you're stuck in this authoritarian view of it. This is free association baby, you don't have to involve yourself if you don't want to. Your life might be really expensive or you might successfully live totally self sustainable and not need to cooperate.

stop putting your rules on an idea with "no rules" huh?


What if only a small fraction of the population in a nation  want to join the collective, and the rest want to be anarcho-capitalists?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins] * 1
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what if they wanted to be Babylonian?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins] * 1
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Shins said:
airclay said:
Shins said:
Answer one simple question;  how will you enforce the state collective and make non-consenters join and stay?


here's the thing you're stuck in this authoritarian view of it. This is free association baby, you don't have to involve yourself if you don't want to. Your life might be really expensive or you might successfully live totally self sustainable and not need to cooperate.

stop putting your rules on an idea with "no rules" huh?


What if only a small fraction of the population in a nation  want to join the collective, and the rest want to be anarcho-capitalists?


Here is where the term anarcho capitalist starts to become oxymoronic because an anarchistic collective wouldn't acknowledge the type of private property ideas one would need to make a capitalistic system workable, there are also other problems with business structure in capitalist systems that rely on an authority in "the free market" or the almighty $$$. And if at this point it if the majority are seeking private property and wild west capitalism then you def aren't in line with a good majority of historical anarchism.

I'd thought by now you'd dropped the free state project, it's this "libertarian" utopian project happening that would most resemble what your representing anarcho-capitalism, but it's important to note here that this is not workable unless you already have capital and an outside system based on capital to trade with.

This essay actually might help as well, I've noticed you stick hard to absolute definitions without much historical reference as how they've been represented.

https://aeon.co/essays/what-happens-when-libertarians-try-to-build-a-new-society

It covers Déjacque, who is the first person to publish the term libertarian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_D%C3%A9jacque

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The Free State Project draws recruits with a mishmash of different philosophies, which isn’t surprising given libertarianism’s history. By some accounts, the first thinker to describe himself as libertarian was Joseph Déjacque, a mid-19th-century French anarcho-communist writer. Déjacque’s beef wasn’t just with government, but with capitalist bosses and religious hierarchies. Any kind of authority was an assault on individual autonomy. He even opposed families, with their elevation of husband above wife and parents above children. For about a century, this is what people meant when they said “libertarianism”: a far-left vision of autonomous individuals working as equals.

Then, beginning in the 1950s, a new definition of ‘libertarianism’ emerged in America, defining its love of freedom in ways that directly contradicted Déjacque. The new philosophy drew on the classical liberalism of Thomas Jefferson, filtered through an economic lens that made property rights central. This was the libertarianism of the Cato Institute think tank, formed in 1977 by economist Murray Rothbard, corporate right-wing superstar Charles Koch, and Edward Crane, a leader of the then-fledgling Libertarian Party. Here, the government was faulted not for standing with capital against the people but for getting in the way of progress by promoting socialist welfare systems.



dictionaries are important but historical reference is too


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
what if they wanted to be Babylonian?



or fucking klingon?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay] * 2
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or Jedi, fucks sake?















do you wanna go to WAR?! :kingcrankey:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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I wanna be a fucking Jedi. Lets do this shit.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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the Sioux indians had the right idea about communal living. You had to work to produce something that could be traded to others if you wanted to eat.  If you couldnt work, either someone claimed you and took care of you, or you made off on your own out of the tribe, or you died.  No handouts.  Everybody able bodied had to go to war including the leaders. 

The old and weak had to defend the village when the warriors were gone.  There was no free stuff. :highfive:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: starfire_xes]
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yeah and nothing has changed in that regard.


goddamn, -- people are fucking daffy.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: starfire_xes] * 4
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starfire_xes said:
the Sioux indians had the right idea about communal living. You had to work to produce something that could be traded to others if you wanted to eat.  If you couldnt work, either someone claimed you and took care of you, or you made off on your own out of the tribe, or you died.  No handouts.  Everybody able bodied had to go to war including the leaders. 

The old and weak had to defend the village when the warriors were gone.  There was no free stuff. :highfive:


I like this idea. They worked together, and were entitled to the fruits of their labor, instead of having the majority siphoned off by some corporate mooch. Then letting that corporate mooch run the country, own prisons, and have immunity for crimes committed via corporate personhood.


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"It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society," - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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"No my dog won't bite you, tho it had the right to. You ought to give him credit, cuz he knows I woulda let him" - Modest Mouse (And Wooof!)
Every one of you should see this video.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: starfire_xes]
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good point ^

but i'm gonna just settle this bullshit -- let's suppose you gave money to the government;-- it's no longer your's, it has been expropriated;-- you get your money back, but the tax currently paid has switched owners.

within the welfare system - what people are so bothered by - the government has now...
starfire_xes said:
claimed you


and now you are given a [hand-out], [helping-hand], [your-due-as-a-welfare-recipient], whatever one wants to call it, from the government.

that's THEIR business, not all individuals who feel chumped. take it up with the policies in effect, seek concordance through the legal system, if you wish to change the lot for Americans. if you want less Welfare from the state, eliminate Medicaid, pension plans, do away with it all...go back to the Wigwam.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
Refugees were going to come anyway. Right wing policies have destroyed the middle east causing a refugee crisis in the first place. Merkel (centre-right) did invite some and you could probably get away with calling that left wing.


Right wing policy has destroyed the middle east? Give me a fucking break. It was the labour party "a left wing" government, who invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, creating the refugee crisis. Until that point, there were no refugees and thanks to them there are now fucking millions of them.

Don't respond with some bullshit like "thats nothing compared to whats happening today" like you normally do.

Just because there were less people coming in the early 00's, does not some how make it irrelevant to toady's events.
The point is, is that this government are the ones who are responsibly, for the creation of the flow of people in the first place. It's just gotten worse and worse as the years have gone on.



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