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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins]
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Shins said:
The CIA isn't a right wing establishment



no, it's a bought establishment. nameless. just like the right-wing. :shrug: whom impart the same duty as the CIA. coercion, false-flag operation, ect. :shrug: you know this already Shins.

akira_akuma said:
no. the right-wing establishment (CIA -- to be specific) trained AQ (and IS) -- and in othernews, PLO/Hamas, as well;-- also Wahhabists (Ibid) in Saudi Arabia too ---- (consider the fact that IS are an off-shoot of AQ and are inspired by Wahhabist rhetoric and theory, which was given credence and pronouncement, to be heard by Reagan, who encouraged their sectarian violence against the Shia rebels.)




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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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ahhhh, peaceful silence.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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you should be ashamed for those fucking retarded views and your disgustingly dehumanising language.



Not at all – it is necessary to keep them out. Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott said much the same.

Tony Abbott tells European leaders to turn back asylum seekers or risk 'catastrophic error'

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-28/tony-abbott-urges-european-leaders-to-turn-back-asylum-seekers/6890886
 
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you aren't against the abuses that go on in those detention centres? Do you think they are just against muslims or do you not care as long as they aren't white aussies?



I voted for the conservatives to ensure the invaders are locked up and the rest discouraged from coming. So far the policy is working and I’m satisfied.

As for keeping Australia White it was what made Australia a first world, e.g. via the ‘White Australia Policy’. Had Australia opened its doors to the third world in its critical 20thC development stage it would just be another third world today (given its location). I know this angers you but it was necessary as today's immigrant policy to keep their inferior cultures out.

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I'd rather have the muslims in my country than you.



Naturally you would, as the Left think their Islamic pets will vote for them. In time it will fail and they’ll create their own Islamic parties.

By the way, I have family in the UK and they’re politically the same as me. They’re Aussie ex-pats who, having lived in the UK for 10+ years, now have citizenship. Maddens you I guess. :laugh:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 1
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aww shucks.

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Maddens you I guess.



Aussies who are self-secure in their onesies, about their immigrant status, but that don't want to help war refugees from terrorists, are people are indeed maddening. hypocrisy and idiocy is maddening.

Edited by akira_akuma (01/23/16 08:20 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 1
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Starter said:
Seriously, I stepped in to put this thread back on topic since the moderator sure hasn't, whilst correcting the ignorance on basic Australian parties/terminology.



It was a tangent of sorts but it was still relevant to the topic.
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The key issue of this thread is the allegation there is a rise of the "Right-wing" in Europe, as if they're the ones at fault.



The key issue of this thread is around the idea that right wing parties and movements are surging at the moment and the discussion is generally concerned with why that is. It began with the discussion around the successes of the National Front in France just after the attacks against Paris by Belgian and French nationals.

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What is happening is the Left has (through treason) flooded Europe in Islamic rapefugees and the centre of the road folks have had a gutful. Now because



Which is the left wing policy? The 1951 Refugee Convention?

These people are not only muslim but many are. They are refugees not rapefugees, look it up.

Refugees were going to come anyway. Right wing policies have destroyed the middle east causing a refugee crisis in the first place. Merkel (centre-right) did invite some and you could probably get away with calling that left wing.

So.. what would the right wing response be then? A massive wall across the Mediterranean? You want the disgusting aussie approach? That approach is unworkable in Aus anyway but even more so in Europe.

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these every day folks have been ignored and even slagged off as bigots, racists and Islamophobes, they will go where their voice will be heard -- yes, the right-wing.



many of them were on the right anyway and many were and are bigots, racists and islamophobes (i include you), some people who were not right wing naturally have legitimate concerns and have been attracted by right wing groups for various reasons. In France it is partly because of the failures of the two party system. The FN have a populist agenda that attracts many after their disenfranchisement from mainstream politics. This relates to all european countries whether they are left or right (generally Europe is more right than left)

please stop with your shitty racist and dehumanising language.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
It hurt yer feelunz, eh.

Seriously, I stepped in to put this thread back on topic since the moderator sure hasn't, whilst correcting the ignorance on basic Australian parties/terminology.

The key issue of this thread is the allegation there is a rise of the "Right-wing" in Europe, as if they're the ones at fault.

What is happening is the Left has (through treason) flooded Europe in Islamic rapefugees and the centre of the road folks have had a gutful. Now because these every day folks have been ignored and even slagged off as bigots, racists and Islamophobes, they will go where their voice will be heard -- yes, the right-wing.

Now I have already said in this thread the Left has created this emergency. It's absolute chutzpah that the Left blame the right-wing for the friction when it was the Left that invited in millions of undesirable pests that started this shitfest.



Hysterical...

I would say the refugees were let in to create a common enemy, to distract Europe from larger issues. The political establishment in Berlin and Brussels doesn't care about refugees, and I don't care if they consider themselves L or R.

The Far Right does appear to be on the rise, whatever that's worth.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Repertoire89]
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it's worth the rise in idiotic posts to dissect on the shroomery and online in general.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 1
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Tony Abbott was the biggest fucking douche in Australia

children are getting raped in those detention centres. whistleblowers are made criminals by raising awareness of the abuses

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/01/detention-centre-staff-speak-out-in-defiance-of-new-asylum-secrecy-laws

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/03/australian-detention-centre-secrecy-laws-condemned-by-world-medical-body

It is the violent racist right that are fucking up this situation. Can you not understand how this hate you have just breeds more hate?

Your country started as a colony of criminals invading a foreign lands and stealing a country from it's natives, surely you can relate to your own rhetoric against foreign invaders?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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he's been indoctrinated by institutional nationalistic fervor.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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So.. what would the right wing response be then? A massive wall across the Mediterranean? You want the disgusting aussie approach? That approach is unworkable in Aus anyway but even more so in Europe.



The Australian 'Operation Sovereign Borders' method works. Lock the invading illegal immigrants up. Tow back the boats. Enforce your borders. In the end we will have to sink them and feed the fish.

https://www.border.gov.au/about/operation-sovereign-borders

Navy now 'towing' back the boats

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/navy-now-towing-back-the-boats/story-fn9hm1gu-1226797698285


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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oh sure. illegals. but we were talking about refugees, remember? :smirk:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Your country started as a colony of criminals invading a foreign lands and stealing a country from it's natives, surely you can relate to your own rhetoric against foreign invaders?



The colonisation of Australia created the country that it is today -- an enviable, first world of high standard of living.

Had it not happened it would been someone else less magnanimous to the natives i.e. the Spanish, Portugese, French or worse, the Javanese or if by some crazy chance the continent was ignored to the 1940's, the Japanese would have taken it.

Australia Day will be on the 26th January and it's a day for proud Aussies, where as I expect the usual Leftist scum will burn flags and howl it was 'invasion' day.

The key difference between the Australian colonists and the Islamic scourge invading Europe is the colonists created a first wold nation from what was a stone age, where as the Islamic scourge will destroy Europe and plunge it into a third world.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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you cannot be objective with your history. you don't know what anyone else could have been, there is no possible way for you to know.

PS: French colonies are the highest standard of living in any part of the world, averaging the total land/population of their colonies; in comparison to other colonial nations.

Aussies killed aborigines, and treated them like shit, and continue to. at least in French colonies, the violence has ended.

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colonists created a first wold nation from what was a stone age, where as the Islamic scourge will destroy Europe and plunge it into a third world.





first off: wold?

second off: i'm sure that the aborigines were fine with their old world.

thirdly: slippery slope fallacy.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
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Repertoire89 said:
I would say the refugees were let in to create a common enemy, to distract Europe from larger issues. The political establishment in Berlin and Brussels doesn't care about refugees, and I don't care if they consider themselves L or R.

The Far Right does appear to be on the rise, whatever that's worth.



I think the refugees were let in for many reasons. A large reason was the fact that it would have been impossible to stop them.
Europe knew about millions of refugees and the potential for them to come to Europe long ago but they've ignored it until they couldnt any longer.
Sure Merkel got try to play the benevolence card. There is significance with what happened because of Germany historically, and there was a benefit of redressing a shrinking German population.
Is there distraction potential from this? Yes but i think that's just a symptom of the uncontrollable crisis being used the best the EU can. The far right are using it well.

I agree that politicians generally speaking dont care about refugees but many alive in Europe were refugees or remember the legacy of the wars. the peoples history won't let our governments to put refugees in prison camps. Hatred against undesirables has already been a lesson in Europe but not everyone has learned that lesson. We have passed many years since the last war in Europe so it's getting to a time when people have forgotten the lessons. And of course there were always well established fascist views in Europe which survived the war.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Shins] * 1
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Shins said:
Answer one simple question;  how will you enforce the state collective and make non-consenters join and stay?



here's the thing you're stuck in this authoritarian view of it. This is free association baby, you don't have to involve yourself if you don't want to. Your life might be really expensive or you might successfully live totally self sustainable and not need to cooperate.

stop putting your rules on an idea with "no rules" huh?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 2
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you are a really hateful person.

You represent well a lot of the corrosive attitudes the so called "first world" have.

you are ok with the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Australia in the name of what you see as first world standard of living, founded on the blood of innocents. You justify it with dehumanisation and racism.

Would you call yourself a white supremecist?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 1
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Aussies aren't even human.



You're entitled to your view - joys of free speech, eh. Curious don't you think that the folks here who aren't even human have the first most livable city in the world:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/19/here-are-the-most-livable-cities-of-2015-australia-canada-dominate/

...and the second most livable nation on the planet:

http://time.com/3538036/most-livable-countries/

Why? Because, in part, we keep the third world Islamic scum out. We lock what did sneak in into detention centres in the third world of PNG where their brutal treatment by the savage natives discourages their fellow Muslim rats from trying.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/australian-government-accused-of-ignoring-png-human-rights-abuse/6967754

We also make it clear to all sleazy invading filth that they are not welcome and in no way will they be allowed in.



As former conservative Prime Minister John Howard rightly said:
...we will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come. :laugh:

Remember, downunder is not out to invade/conquest the West, bringing 7thC values (e.g. Sharia), all because a misguided sense of altruism has enabled this madness. Lib'tardism is all about being self-righteous, whilst fucking everyone over by bullshit third world invasion to get a rush of feel-good idealism. It's not just suicidal it is homicidal and you can bet your nut-sack folks like me will defend and fight back!

Hence why there is a reaction in Europe against this immigrant treachery because they rightly feel their way of life should not end all to appease the idiocy of lib'tardism. We're not the haters - we love our nations and our Western way of life. :wink:



Starter said:
It hurt yer feelunz, eh.

Seriously, I stepped in to put this thread back on topic since the moderator sure hasn't, whilst correcting the ignorance on basic Australian parties/terminology.

The key issue of this thread is the allegation there is a rise of the "Right-wing" in Europe, as if they're the ones at fault.

What is happening is the Left has (through treason) flooded Europe in Islamic rapefugees and the centre of the road folks have had a gutful. Now because these every day folks have been ignored and even slagged off as bigots, racists and Islamophobes, they will go where their voice will be heard -- yes, the right-wing.

Now I have already said in this thread the Left has created this emergency. It's absolute chutzpah that the Left blame the right-wing for the friction when it was the Left that invited in millions of undesirable pests that started this shitfest.



oh thank you boss for steppin in and setting us straight with your racist bullshit.

I'm sorry I never heard the left support the destabilization of the middle east? seriously in the last 60+ yrs of it happening.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 2
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Starter said:
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This whole argument seemed to start, from some one suggesting that right wing politics has torn Europe apart in the past and will do again? I think.



It's typical of the Left to create the emergency and then blame their enemies, which happen to be anyone concerned about the insanity of enabling an Islamic invasion.



Actually this is exactly typical of the right. Fear-mongering, and blaming groups of people.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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nationalists make me sick and want to vomit -- i am given the grippe by nationalistic idiocy and fervor. :puke:

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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More right wingers over reacting to peaceful Muslim at their pools

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REPORT: Locals Fled Pool After Migrants Masturbated Into Jacuzzi, Defecated Into Kid’s Pool, Invaded Girls Changing Rooms



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REPORT: Locals Fled Pool After Migrants Masturbated Into Jacuzzi, Defecated Into Kid’s Pool, Invaded Girls Changing Rooms
Swimming Bath
by OLIVER LANE
22 Jan 2016
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A German swimming bath has banned migrants from entering the premises after a group of men went on an obscene rampage, laughing in the faces of pool staff when challenged about their grotesque behaviour.

A group of migrant men and women were caught on security camera at the Johannisbad baths in Zwickau, Saxony engaging in unacceptable behaviour, including masturbating into the jacuzzi. In separate incidents other groups of migrants were caught “contaminating” the children’t training pool by “emptying their bowels in the water”, and sexually assaulting other bathers, reports Bild.

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The historic Wilhelmine Zwickau Johannis baths / Wikimedia Commons

The allegations against the migrant bathers has come to light thanks to a leaked internal letter from the Zwickau Town Hall, between the chief clerk to his department head. Writing of the historic swimming pool’s decision to close their doors to migrants until further notice, Rainer Kallweit wrote this week of a shocking incident which has left the baths abandoned by local swimmers.

In his report, the authenticity of which has since been confirmed by the city administration Mr. Kallweit wrote the shocking words:

“An asylum seeker has masturbated in the hot tub and ejaculated into the basin. This is also recorded on the surveillance camera”. He wrote that the group desecrating the jacuzzi, having been thrown out by the lifeguards later returned took “selfies” of themselves while they were in the tub, “jeering” the whole time.



When will these right wingers just accept its gonna take time for them to "adjust" to their new home?:shrug:

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This was not the only assault on the pool. The day before, wrote Mr. Wallweit “8 foreign men … in the sauna” harassed locals, forcing pool staff to pretend the Sauna was out of action when enquiries were made my migrant men, if there were at that time local women using it. He told his superiors: “furthermore, the lifeguards have to protect women and girls from the asylum seekers. Young men wanted to forcibly penetrate the female changing room”.

Police are now investigating the allegations, and in future will be called immediately in case of such behaviour.

The local radio station reports the actions of the migrants has caused “outrage”, and a number of sexual harassment of women and girls by migrants has been reported. Migrants have now been banned from the pool until they can be educated at the migrant centres about “behaviour towards woman and girls in swimwear” and the “user regulations of our baths”.



Maybe they just weren't making the rules clear enough to "bridge that cultural divide"?

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This behaviour in Zwickau is not by any means unique in Germany. Breitbart London has reported on a number of sex attacks on children in swimming baths over the past week, with girls as young as 11 and boys as young as three being targeted by migrant gangs. On one occasion in Munich, a pair of young girls enjoying the waterslide at their local pool were groped, “allegedly under their bathing suits”, “and possibly raped” by a gang of “refugees”.

The men believed to be responsible, Syrian and Afghan asylum seekers, were arrested and released by police.



Well, I certainly hope the police didn't violate these peaceful immigrants rights, because THAT would be an outrage...


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