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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
hope you didnt get too far in before you realised it does has subtitles!

yeh its a great video. Naomi Klein is a babe.



On my phone I can't see the subtitles.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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I'm enjoying the reading youre providing about anarchism actually! Very interesting. I'm learning a lot.

glad youre enjoying the video mate.

@Shins - are you watching the video? what do you think if so?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
Two variants of right-wing anarchism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-Anarchism

Seriously, what has this got to do with the Islamic scum flooding into Europe and enabled by no end of Leftists who should be shot for their hateful treachery against the West.

50+ pages of thread and still this view that the immigrants are good and the oppossing opines are from bigots, racists and Islamophobes; despite the ever increasing evidence that it's an epic disaster which will see to chaos and war.



This whole argument seemed to start, from some one suggesting that right wing politics has torn Europe apart in the past and will do again? I think.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85]
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This whole argument seemed to start, from some one suggesting that right wing politics has torn Europe apart in the past and will do again? I think.



It's typical of the Left to create the emergency and then blame their enemies, which happen to be anyone concerned about the insanity of enabling an Islamic invasion.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 1
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Aussies aren't even human.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
you're right, having all of history behind me doesn't mean shit.

Also it really just clicked to me that you are in fact just arging the jr. high level idea of anarchism (anarchy means no rules, maaaaan) when in reality and as historical studies show that the word "anarchy" is simply a label for an entire realm of political thought. One that you are vastly ignorant on.

please keep at it tho, present any sort of evidence that shows anarchism has been right-wing in nature by definition and in historical practice?

I've presented all of the major left wing anarchistic revolutions in this thread and you've simply pretended they didn't know what they were talking about.
Paris commune
uprising against the bolsheviks
Mexican revolution
Spanish revolution
Zapatistas
Rojava




Are you even Capable of reading English?  I told you you are kisinterpreting history.


I have quoted the literal definition of "Anarchism" now 5 or 6 times
The literal definition of "anarchy" is "without authority"


You are the one mislabeling you political ideals as "anarchy" because you are misinterpreting what anarchy really is.

You continue to compete ignore my arguments and points and continue to parrot other people's words instead of using your own damned brain
 

There is no point in this discussion if you are going to continue to ignore my arguments and points,cover your ears and go "lalala."

I have clearly explained why anarchy must exist under a right wing economy, and you have ignored my arguments time and time again. 

Answer one simple question;  how will you enforce the state collective and make non-consenters join and stay?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Bubbles85] * 1
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Starter said:
Two variants of right-wing anarchism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-Anarchism

Seriously, what has this got to do with the Islamic scum flooding into Europe and enabled by no end of Leftists who should be shot for their hateful treachery against the West.

50  pages of thread and still this view that the immigrants are good and the oppossing opines are from bigots, racists and Islamophobes; despite the ever increasing evidence that it's an epic disaster which will see to chaos and war.



Bubbles85 said:
This whole argument seemed to start, from some one suggesting that right wing politics has torn Europe apart in the past and will do again? I think.



aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand back on track


@Starter: you did in 1 post what Shins has been struggling to do for the last 50. Those examples are interesting. It goes back to the earlier point about the horse shoe model and some similarities that cross over towards the extremes of the two poles.

The point still stands that  "anarchism is right wing" is an accurate statement from Shins. The vast majority and the origins of the movement are on the left. While some ideas are incorporated by some movements on the right, this point is not negated.

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Seriously, what has this got to do with the Islamic scum flooding into Europe and enabled by no end of Leftists who should be shot for their hateful treachery against the West.



they aren't "islamic scum", they are called "refugees" or "people"

why do you advocate for the killing of the left? you are symbolising what is coming from the right in Europe, and why this is so dangerous and can mean Europe is ripped apart.


The discussion in this thread about the left has come from qman saying what you are saying, that its left wing politics that are to blame for the refugee crisis affecting Europe.

Refugees were going to come regardless, its kind of the nature of refugees, and of the legal obligations that the Agreement of 1951 and 67. Is that left wing?

Or is it the entire history of multiculturalism that is blamed as the leftist treachery? Or what?


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter] * 2
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Starter said:
It's typical of the Left to create the emergency and then blame their enemies, which happen to be anyone concerned about the insanity of enabling an Islamic invasion.



:trekfacepalm:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote] * 1
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so we create the emergency by and how? and what? then we blame them...? (huh?), them being anyone who are concerned with enabling Isis?


WUT?

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Tipote said:
shins, can you please put this to rest? You have ignored everything that goes against what you are saying. As far as i can see you havent given one source to back up what you are saying, you havent given one example of right wing anarchists.

airclays given you numerous examples of left wing anarchism and you just dismiss it and put it down to people not really knowing. Yet you seem to be the only person saying this.

Let it die, for the love of god, or chocolate or something.




Oh my god. 

No he has not given examples of left wing anarchy

I have tried to explain to you guys that national left-anarchy is impossible and the collectives exist as private organizations under anarchy and you guys ignore me time and time again.  You are misinterpreting  what "left anarchy" is.  It is not a national system, it is a PRIVATE form of organization which exists under the umbrella of an extreme right wing economy.  Right wing,Non-collective private owners can also exist under anarchy alongside the left-collective groups
  As soon as you begin trying to eliminate those private owners from a nation, that is no longer a system of anarchy.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Tipote]
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Asylum Seekers' Red Front Doors To Be Repainted After G4S Blamed For 'Apartheid' Policy In Middlesbrough

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The front doors of asylum seekers' houses will be re-painted different colours, after it was revealed almost all their doors were red, leaving them open for targeted attacks.

A subcontractor of global security firm G4S, 'Jomast', announced the move after an investigation by The Times branded its door-painting policy 'Apartheid on the streets of Britain'.

    UPDATE: G4S Leaked Emails Show Security Bosses Knew Of Red Door 'Issue' For Years

Asylum seekers in Middlesbrough had told how they faced graffiti being daubed on their doors and rubbish thrown at their houses because the properties were easily located.

They also recollected incidents of having had dog excrement smeared across the entrance to their homes and eggs and stones being thrown at windows. A 'National Front' logo was carved into the door of one house.

One former local MP reportedly compared the use of red paint, used on terraced streets in a deprived area of the northern town, to the yellow stars Jews were forced to wear in Nazi Germany.

Times journalists visited 168 Middlesbrough homes occupied by asylum seekers, discovering that 155 had red doors.

The properties are owned by Stuart Monk, 66, who earns millions of pounds each year for providing accommodation to thousands of asylum seekers from Syria and parts of eastern Europe.

He is worth an estimated £175 million.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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Aussies aren't even human.



You're entitled to your view - joys of free speech, eh. Curious don't you think that the folks here who aren't even human have the first most livable city in the world:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/19/here-are-the-most-livable-cities-of-2015-australia-canada-dominate/

...and the second most livable nation on the planet:

http://time.com/3538036/most-livable-countries/

Why? Because, in part, we keep the third world Islamic scum out. We lock what did sneak in into detention centres in the third world of PNG where their brutal treatment by the savage natives discourages their fellow Muslim rats from trying.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-24/australian-government-accused-of-ignoring-png-human-rights-abuse/6967754

We also make it clear to all sleazy invading filth that they are not welcome and in no way will they be allowed in.



As former conservative Prime Minister John Howard rightly said:
...we will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come. :laugh:

Remember, downunder is not out to invade/conquest the West, bringing 7thC values (e.g. Sharia), all because a misguided sense of altruism has enabled this madness. Lib'tardism is all about being self-righteous, whilst fucking everyone over by bullshit third world invasion to get a rush of feel-good idealism. It's not just suicidal it is homicidal and you can bet your nut-sack folks like me will defend and fight back!

Hence why there is a reaction in Europe against this immigrant treachery because they rightly feel their way of life should not end all to appease the idiocy of lib'tardism. We're not the haters - we love our nations and our Western way of life. :wink:


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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bashes liberals.........then loves liberals.





love it. sometimes a little irony is a good thing.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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bashes liberals.........then loves liberals.



If you're implying I love liberals because I quoted former Liberal prime minister John Howard, you should understand the Liberals (capital L) in Australia are the CONSERVATIVE party. I repeat: Liberal is conservative. Where as lib'ardism is Leftist. I know you're finding this hard to gather but do come along.

Yes, the Liberals (say after me, t-h-e c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-v-e-s) are the ones that have stopped the flood of boats which the Left in Australia (the ALP and the Greens) created with their lib'tard views of open borders.

Nice 'n clear now, eh.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
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bashes liberals.........then loves liberals.



If you're implying I love liberals because I quoted former Liberal prime minister John Howard, you should understand the Liberals (capital L) in Australia are the CONSERVATIVE party. I repeat: Liberal is conservative. Where as lib'ardism is Leftist. I know you're finding this hard to gather but do come along.

Yes, the Liberals (say after me, t-h-e c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-v-e-s) are the ones that have stopped the flood of boats which the Left in Australia (the ALP and the Greens) created with their lib'tard views of open borders.

Nice 'n clear now, eh.



This attitude debases your argument, mine as well be yelling in an echo chamber.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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you should be ashamed for those fucking retarded views and your disgustingly dehumanising language.

you aren't against the abuses that go on in those detention centres? Do you think they are just against muslims or do you not care as long as they aren't white aussies?

I'd rather have the muslims in my country than you.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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Starter said:
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bashes liberals.........then loves liberals.



If you're implying I love liberals because I quoted former Liberal prime minister John Howard, you should understand the Liberals (capital L) in Australia are the CONSERVATIVE party. I repeat: Liberal is conservative. Where as lib'ardism is Leftist. I know you're finding this hard to gather but do come along.

Yes, the Liberals (say after me, t-h-e c-o-n-s-e-r-v-a-t-i-v-e-s) are the ones that have stopped the flood of boats which the Left in Australia (the ALP and the Greens) created with their lib'tard views of open borders.

Nice 'n clear now, eh.



:fonda: ok, there skippy, there. i'm in Canada. same difference here. but what you don't understand is 1 very distinct selling-point -- it's here for sale, if you want it... -- all of our nations were founded on liberal ideas -- Australia simply followed suit with Canada -- we (and the US) wanted nothing to do with the British conservative monarchy, thus we eliminated our ties with them. the right-wing conservative parties are all reactionary causes to the predominantly liberal weltanschauung.

so give it a rest.

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Repertoire89]
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It hurt yer feelunz, eh.

Seriously, I stepped in to put this thread back on topic since the moderator sure hasn't, whilst correcting the ignorance on basic Australian parties/terminology.

The key issue of this thread is the allegation there is a rise of the "Right-wing" in Europe, as if they're the ones at fault.

What is happening is the Left has (through treason) flooded Europe in Islamic rapefugees and the centre of the road folks have had a gutful. Now because these every day folks have been ignored and even slagged off as bigots, racists and Islamophobes, they will go where their voice will be heard -- yes, the right-wing.

Now I have already said in this thread the Left has created this emergency. It's absolute chutzpah that the Left blame the right-wing for the friction when it was the Left that invited in millions of undesirable pests that started this shitfest.


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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: Starter]
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no. the right-wing establishment (CIA -- to be specific) trained AQ (and IS) -- and in othernews, PLO/Hamas, as well;-- also Wahhabists (Ibid) in Saudi Arabia too ---- (consider the fact that IS are an off-shoot of AQ and are inspired by Wahhabist rhetoric and theory, which was given credence and pronouncement, to be heard by Reagan, who encouraged their sectarian violence against the Shia rebels.)

Edited by akira_akuma (01/23/16 08:01 PM)

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Re: Rise of the far-right in France and Europe [Re: akira_akuma]
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The CIA isn't a right wing establishment


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