The Ecstatic said:

I think you're way overestimating the importance of ethnic lines.

Sure, tribalism exists. That's a fact. But the plutocrats aren't importing Mexicans because they have darker skin and it prevents solidarity (although that may be a side benefit), they're doing it because Mexicans will work for less.

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The Ecstatic said:

I think you're way overestimating the importance of ethnic lines.

Sure, tribalism exists. That's a fact. But the plutocrats aren't importing Mexicans because they have darker skin and it prevents solidarity (although that may be a side benefit), they're doing it because Mexicans will work for less.

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viktor said:

The Ecstatic said:

I think you're way overestimating the importance of ethnic lines.

Sure, tribalism exists. That's a fact. But the plutocrats aren't importing Mexicans because they have darker skin and it prevents solidarity (although that may be a side benefit), they're doing it because Mexicans will work for less.

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Mexicans will work for less because they have little solidarity with the American workers whose wages they are driving down by accepting to work for less.

Ask yourself why you end up with millions of Mexicans and not people from a culture that pays higher wages.

The higher the ethnic diversity in any given Western nation, the poorer the conditions for workers. This is a fact.

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qman said:

viktor said:

The Ecstatic said:

I think you're way overestimating the importance of ethnic lines.

Sure, tribalism exists. That's a fact. But the plutocrats aren't importing Mexicans because they have darker skin and it prevents solidarity (although that may be a side benefit), they're doing it because Mexicans will work for less.

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Mexicans will work for less because they have little solidarity with the American workers whose wages they are driving down by accepting to work for less.

Ask yourself why you end up with millions of Mexicans and not people from a culture that pays higher wages.

The higher the ethnic diversity in any given Western nation, the poorer the conditions for workers. This is a fact.

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Illegals hurt the unskilled minorities in the US more than anyone, yet liberals still support the policy.

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viktor said:

The Ecstatic said:

I think you're way overestimating the importance of ethnic lines.

Sure, tribalism exists. That's a fact. But the plutocrats aren't importing Mexicans because they have darker skin and it prevents solidarity (although that may be a side benefit), they're doing it because Mexicans will work for less.

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Mexicans will work for less because they have little solidarity with the American workers whose wages they are driving down by accepting to work for less.

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Bubbles85 said:

which fits in nicely with the founding fathers vision, for a single mestizo race of sub human beings that have no national identity and are easier to control than the vast identity's of civilizations we have today.

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I'm not religious, but its also interesting that a huge decline in Christianity among many in the Western World, which through history has been used to control the masses here, is now being replaced with people of the Islamic faith.
These people still believe strongly in the will of god and IMO are definitely easier to control through religion than our selves and these are the people, that within this century, will replace native Europeans as the majority populace.

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viktor said:

It sounds like you're agreeing with me.

Ethnic solidarity tends to bring people together and protect them against being divided and conquered by the plutocrats. This is why Scandinavia, for example, has the highest wages anywhere.

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It's in the interests of big business to destroy ethnic solidarity so that they can divide and conquer the working class and drive wages down.

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To this end they work hand in hand with the politicians of the day, who are, of course, loyal to big business and not the people.

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That's an interesting theory. I don't know if it holds any water, but it is interesting, and yes, religion is a tool for controlling the masses. That is why Republicans embrace it so firmly. They even blur the line between patriotism and religion.

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hostileuniverse said:

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That's an interesting theory. I don't know if it holds any water, but it is interesting, and yes, religion is a tool for controlling the masses. That is why Republicans embrace it so firmly. They even blur the line between patriotism and religion.

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Socialism also strives to control the masses and promotes "nationalism" as a movement for all to band together to get free shit, funny how blind you are to that fact

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Bubbles85 said:

A subhuman, is an inferior human being. As in, the new race eventually created through mass immigration and miscegenation, will be inferior to the political elite and therefor easy to command or control.

When I say the founding father, i mean the founder of the European Union, Richard Coundenhove Kalerig.
Kalergi is still considered by the political elite as a pioneer in European integration and his guiding principals, are the basis, for some of the policies that are still in place today.

In 1933 he wrote and published a book called "Practical Idealism". In the book contained a paragraph that quoted -

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

The book is now heavily censored in Europe and is impossible to get.

This book, is what is prompting people to question the true motives toward the political elites continued plan, of importing millions of immigrants from the Third World into the West.

Every two years, high ranking political leaders within the EU, who have excelled in promoting Kalergi's ideologies are award a prize, known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, or Charlemagne Prize. Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy are among the most recent winners.

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qman said:

Bubbles85 said:

A subhuman, is an inferior human being. As in, the new race eventually created through mass immigration and miscegenation, will be inferior to the political elite and therefor easy to command or control.

When I say the founding father, i mean the founder of the European Union, Richard Coundenhove Kalerig.
Kalergi is still considered by the political elite as a pioneer in European integration and his guiding principals, are the basis, for some of the policies that are still in place today.

In 1933 he wrote and published a book called "Practical Idealism". In the book contained a paragraph that quoted -

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

The book is now heavily censored in Europe and is impossible to get.

This book, is what is prompting people to question the true motives toward the political elites continued plan, of importing millions of immigrants from the Third World into the West.

Every two years, high ranking political leaders within the EU, who have excelled in promoting Kalergi's ideologies are award a prize, known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, or Charlemagne Prize. Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy are among the most recent winners.

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Merkel and her family better have top level personal security because German's don't play that game, she made a major miscalculation.

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Bigbadwooof said:

qman said:

Bubbles85 said:

A subhuman, is an inferior human being. As in, the new race eventually created through mass immigration and miscegenation, will be inferior to the political elite and therefor easy to command or control.

When I say the founding father, i mean the founder of the European Union, Richard Coundenhove Kalerig.
Kalergi is still considered by the political elite as a pioneer in European integration and his guiding principals, are the basis, for some of the policies that are still in place today.

In 1933 he wrote and published a book called "Practical Idealism". In the book contained a paragraph that quoted -

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

The book is now heavily censored in Europe and is impossible to get.

This book, is what is prompting people to question the true motives toward the political elites continued plan, of importing millions of immigrants from the Third World into the West.

Every two years, high ranking political leaders within the EU, who have excelled in promoting Kalergi's ideologies are award a prize, known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, or Charlemagne Prize. Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy are among the most recent winners.

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Merkel and her family better have top level personal security because German's don't play that game, she made a major miscalculation.

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Sounds like a bunch of conspiracy nuttery, tbh. I don't delve into that sort of thing. It's the sort of fear mongering tin-foil hattery that drives people to the right. Right-wing politics are driven by conspiracy theory garbage these days.

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qman said:

Bubbles85 said:

A subhuman, is an inferior human being. As in, the new race eventually created through mass immigration and miscegenation, will be inferior to the political elite and therefor easy to command or control.

When I say the founding father, i mean the founder of the European Union, Richard Coundenhove Kalerig.
Kalergi is still considered by the political elite as a pioneer in European integration and his guiding principals, are the basis, for some of the policies that are still in place today.

In 1933 he wrote and published a book called "Practical Idealism". In the book contained a paragraph that quoted -

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

The book is now heavily censored in Europe and is impossible to get.

This book, is what is prompting people to question the true motives toward the political elites continued plan, of importing millions of immigrants from the Third World into the West.

Every two years, high ranking political leaders within the EU, who have excelled in promoting Kalergi's ideologies are award a prize, known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, or Charlemagne Prize. Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy are among the most recent winners.

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Merkel and her family better have top level personal security because German's don't play that game, she made a major miscalculation.

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Yeah, i can definitely see Merkel getting Murked off She's an idiot IMO anyway.

Bigbadwooof said:

qman said:

Bubbles85 said:

A subhuman, is an inferior human being. As in, the new race eventually created through mass immigration and miscegenation, will be inferior to the political elite and therefor easy to command or control.

When I say the founding father, i mean the founder of the European Union, Richard Coundenhove Kalerig.
Kalergi is still considered by the political elite as a pioneer in European integration and his guiding principals, are the basis, for some of the policies that are still in place today.

In 1933 he wrote and published a book called "Practical Idealism". In the book contained a paragraph that quoted -

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

The book is now heavily censored in Europe and is impossible to get.

This book, is what is prompting people to question the true motives toward the political elites continued plan, of importing millions of immigrants from the Third World into the West.

Every two years, high ranking political leaders within the EU, who have excelled in promoting Kalergi's ideologies are award a prize, known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, or Charlemagne Prize. Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy are among the most recent winners.

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Merkel and her family better have top level personal security because German's don't play that game, she made a major miscalculation.

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Sounds like a bunch of conspiracy nuttery, tbh. I don't delve into that sort of thing. It's the sort of fear mongering tin-foil hattery that drives people to the right. Right-wing politics are driven by conspiracy theory garbage these days.

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qman said:

Bigbadwooof said:

qman said:

Bubbles85 said:

A subhuman, is an inferior human being. As in, the new race eventually created through mass immigration and miscegenation, will be inferior to the political elite and therefor easy to command or control.

When I say the founding father, i mean the founder of the European Union, Richard Coundenhove Kalerig.
Kalergi is still considered by the political elite as a pioneer in European integration and his guiding principals, are the basis, for some of the policies that are still in place today.

In 1933 he wrote and published a book called "Practical Idealism". In the book contained a paragraph that quoted -

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

The book is now heavily censored in Europe and is impossible to get.

This book, is what is prompting people to question the true motives toward the political elites continued plan, of importing millions of immigrants from the Third World into the West.

Every two years, high ranking political leaders within the EU, who have excelled in promoting Kalergi's ideologies are award a prize, known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, or Charlemagne Prize. Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy are among the most recent winners.

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Merkel and her family better have top level personal security because German's don't play that game, she made a major miscalculation.

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Sounds like a bunch of conspiracy nuttery, tbh. I don't delve into that sort of thing. It's the sort of fear mongering tin-foil hattery that drives people to the right. Right-wing politics are driven by conspiracy theory garbage these days.

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The invasion isn't a conspiracy and that's what really matters at the end of the day, EU citizens never wanted this nonsense and it was forced down their throats, that is going to cause serious ramifications down the road, even the liberals will be jumping on the bandwagon before it's all said and done.

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qman said:

Bigbadwooof said:

qman said:

Bubbles85 said:

A subhuman, is an inferior human being. As in, the new race eventually created through mass immigration and miscegenation, will be inferior to the political elite and therefor easy to command or control.

When I say the founding father, i mean the founder of the European Union, Richard Coundenhove Kalerig.
Kalergi is still considered by the political elite as a pioneer in European integration and his guiding principals, are the basis, for some of the policies that are still in place today.

In 1933 he wrote and published a book called "Practical Idealism". In the book contained a paragraph that quoted -

"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."

The book is now heavily censored in Europe and is impossible to get.

This book, is what is prompting people to question the true motives toward the political elites continued plan, of importing millions of immigrants from the Third World into the West.

Every two years, high ranking political leaders within the EU, who have excelled in promoting Kalergi's ideologies are award a prize, known as the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, or Charlemagne Prize. Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy are among the most recent winners.

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Merkel and her family better have top level personal security because German's don't play that game, she made a major miscalculation.

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Sounds like a bunch of conspiracy nuttery, tbh. I don't delve into that sort of thing. It's the sort of fear mongering tin-foil hattery that drives people to the right. Right-wing politics are driven by conspiracy theory garbage these days.

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The invasion isn't a conspiracy and that's what really matters at the end of the day, EU citizens never wanted this nonsense and it was forced down their throats, that is going to cause serious ramifications down the road, even the liberals will be jumping on the bandwagon before it's all said and done.

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Bigbadwooof said:

And this is why the title of this thread is applicable. Extremist right wing politics have torn Europe to pieces in the past, and they will do so again if this issue is not dealt with in an extremely delicate manner, which it likely will not be, as we are seeing.

Of course, turmoil in Europe is what made the American economy so powerful in the first place. I see America's future, whatever happens, as being brighter than that of Europe. This may be wishful thinking though, because America played a much more hands off role in the world in the 1930's, up until Pearl Harbor. Since then our non-interventionalist attitude has changed into its polar opposite. We will likely be a key player, and a major target in this process, if war breaks out in the EU.

Something big is on the horizon. We all can feel it. Economic uncertainty and political unrest will be the signature of our era, as was the case in the early 20th century. The resemblance is striking. Hopefully we will learn from some of our past mistakes.

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Repertoire89 said:

Bigbadwooof said:

And this is why the title of this thread is applicable. Extremist right wing politics have torn Europe to pieces in the past, and they will do so again if this issue is not dealt with in an extremely delicate manner, which it likely will not be, as we are seeing.

Of course, turmoil in Europe is what made the American economy so powerful in the first place. I see America's future, whatever happens, as being brighter than that of Europe. This may be wishful thinking though, because America played a much more hands off role in the world in the 1930's, up until Pearl Harbor. Since then our non-interventionalist attitude has changed into its polar opposite. We will likely be a key player, and a major target in this process, if war breaks out in the EU.

Something big is on the horizon. We all can feel it. Economic uncertainty and political unrest will be the signature of our era, as was the case in the early 20th century. The resemblance is striking. Hopefully we will learn from some of our past mistakes.

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I don't think the future is very clear, it does seem like things are taking a turn for the worst but when do things appear differently?

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Bigbadwooof said:

I think the 90's appeared to be quite positive. The fall of the Soviet Union, economy was booming, relations with China were improving, etc.

Btw, you attributed your quote to the wrong person.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I don't think the mechanism behind this situation is characterized by the conspiratorial influence you fellas seem to imply. I'm very skeptical when people start making assertions about diabolical plots of the rich and powerful, which involve cooperation of relatively vast swaths of the most politically and economically influential individuals, and span decades of strict adherence to accomplish. 

Qman has a more appropriate summarization of the motivations for making these sort of moves. Here's a quick and easy alternative to the sort of speculation I am seeing in this thread:

Germany has what are known as 'German Worker Councils', which effectively mandate a form of unionization for all moderately large companies, and large corporations. As a result, wages are quite high, as workers have been enabled to effectively negotiate wages. This does not make big business happy in Germany, so it is in their immediate financial interest to import cheap labor. We do the same thing with Mexicans here in America, and if your company is big enough to justify the cost of importation, China and Bangladesh are an even better alternative.

No diabolical scheme necessary. Ockham's razor makes quick work of most conspiracy theories.

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Bigbadwooof said:

And this is why the title of this thread is applicable. Extremist right wing politics have torn Europe to pieces in the past, and they will do so again if this issue is not dealt with in an extremely delicate manner, which it likely will not be, as we are seeing.

Of course, turmoil in Europe is what made the American economy so powerful in the first place. I see America's future, whatever happens, as being brighter than that of Europe. This may be wishful thinking though, because America played a much more hands off role in the world in the 1930's, up until Pearl Harbor. Since then our non-interventionalist attitude has changed into its polar opposite. We will likely be a key player, and a major target in this process, if war breaks out in the EU.

Something big is on the horizon. We all can feel it. Economic uncertainty and political unrest will be the signature of our era, as was the case in the early 20th century. The resemblance is striking. Hopefully we will learn from some of our past mistakes.

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This


Excellent posts, BBW.

if i could underline that sentence again, i would.