Repertoire89 said:

WAN said:

Repertoire89 said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

This is because most employees today are paid FAR less than they're worth to a company.

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Yup.

Personally I endorse a Total Asset Cap, at about 5 million dollars.

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I like this idea of yours very much.  Can you go into greater details and tell us how it would work?

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How something like this can be accomplished, I won't consider here.


I suppose this idea makes me a socialist.
Coercion is implied, but personally I don't care. The greed of the rich causes untold suffering and 5 million dollars is exorbitant.
Resources are finite and taking larger than one's share, takes out of the share of others.

The idea would mean all of one's assets are recorded, their finances kept track of. Including real estate, investments, cattle, gold and jewelry, etc. At the point where the value passes 5 million dollars, they must give something up to balance the ledger or have it confiscated (starting with investments, since there is less of a risk of taking something with sentimental value or actual utility).

Considering modern societies productivity, taxes could be much lower, and many civil services can be provided by those taxes.


We all know how resources are stratified, so I won't get into that.
One has to lie through their teeth to imagine it is otherwise.

And I do not agree with the idea that some jackass inheriting 100 million dollars, somehow deserves those resources more than anyone else.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

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WAN said:

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Kind words
I appreciate

WAN said:

Dude you just filled me completely with awe and respect.  Do you mind if I follow you around and make note of all your posts?  Seriously this is how much I look up to you.

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qman said:

You can't mix primitive people into sophisticated cultures and then expect good results. What happens when we mix piss with a fine wine? We end up with something that is not desirable for consumption.

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Bigbadwooof said:

qman said:

You can't mix primitive people into sophisticated cultures and then expect good results. What happens when we mix piss with a fine wine? We end up with something that is not desirable for consumption.

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Wow... That was a really fucked up analogy dude...

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qman said:

Bigbadwooof said:

qman said:

You can't mix primitive people into sophisticated cultures and then expect good results. What happens when we mix piss with a fine wine? We end up with something that is not desirable for consumption.

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Wow... That was a really fucked up analogy dude...

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Yeah, it's not that appropriate, but the point I'm trying to make is that overwhelming developed nations with migrants from the worst parts of the globe isn't going to keep them as first world status.

The best thing is to have the places they're are fleeing from to be more stable and desirable places to inhabit. How does that happen?  I don't know.

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How do you make a desert shit hole desirable? I'm pretty sure the heat is what made all those fuckers crazier than shit in the first place

Bigbadwooof said:

However, given enough time, I do believe those pockets of immigrants will dissolve. Another point that should be made is that mass immigration is a very bad idea during times of economic upheaval or uncertainty. People are quick to blame the migrants for their problems. Racial tensions are always exacerbated by economic stressors.

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qman said:

I still disagree, when my Polish ancestors came to the US 100 years ago, I can assure you no one gave a shit about learning Polish culture or customs.

Do you know why the Poles quickly assimilated and then begin challenging the native population in short order?  Because they made every effort to do so, Polish language was not allowed to be spoken at home, they gave up their language in the process, this is called sacrifice.

They learned to interact with the native population, they didn't expect handouts and special exceptions like you guys are talking about, this is called the real world.

"People are quick to blame migrants for their problems"

Many times they are largely responsible for their problems (unemployment, low wages, high taxes, crime).

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Bubbles85 said:

until a point, that Third World immigrants who are all ready here have integrated.

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airclay said:

so much bullshit here I don't even know where to start.

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viktor said:

Bubbles85 said:

until a point, that Third World immigrants who are all ready here have integrated.

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They're never going to integrate. The purpose of all this is to destroy national culture and sovereignty in preparation for a world government.

The politicians who are letting this happen all fancy themselves highly ranked in a global government, in a world where people are not loyal to a nation or race.

If you want to maintain a sense of national identity this century you will have to fight against your own rulers.

By my estimation 65-70% of the politicians in Europe could rightly be considered traitors to their own people and executed. Merkel for example.

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viktor said:

airclay said:

so much bullshit here I don't even know where to start.

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Take your time, one advantage with online forums is that you don't have to think at the speed of a spoken conversation.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I don't think the mechanism behind this situation is characterized by the conspiratorial influence you fellas seem to imply. I'm very skeptical when people start making assertions about diabolical plots of the rich and powerful, which involve cooperation of relatively vast swaths of the most politically and economically influential individuals, and span decades of strict adherence to accomplish. 

Qman has a more appropriate summarization of the motivations for making these sort of moves. Here's a quick and easy alternative to the sort of speculation I am seeing in this thread:

Germany has what are known as 'German Worker Councils', which effectively mandate a form of unionization for all moderately large companies, and large corporations. As a result, wages are quite high, as workers have been enabled to effectively negotiate wages. This does not make big business happy in Germany, so it is in their immediate financial interest to import cheap labor. We do the same thing with Mexicans here in America, and if your company is big enough to justify the cost of importation, China and Bangladesh are an even better alternative.

No diabolical scheme necessary. Ockham's razor makes quick work of most conspiracy theories.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I don't think the mechanism behind this situation is characterized by the conspiratorial influence you fellas seem to imply. I'm very skeptical when people start making assertions about diabolical plots of the rich and powerful, which involve cooperation of relatively vast swaths of the most politically and economically influential individuals, and span decades of strict adherence to accomplish. 

Qman has a more appropriate summarization of the motivations for making these sort of moves. Here's a quick and easy alternative to the sort of speculation I am seeing in this thread:

Germany has what are known as 'German Worker Councils', which effectively mandate a form of unionization for all moderately large companies, and large corporations. As a result, wages are quite high, as workers have been enabled to effectively negotiate wages. This does not make big business happy in Germany, so it is in their immediate financial interest to import cheap labor. We do the same thing with Mexicans here in America, and if your company is big enough to justify the cost of importation, China and Bangladesh are an even better alternative.

No diabolical scheme necessary. Ockham's razor makes quick work of most conspiracy theories.

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