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tryptamine extraction from MHRB - WTF?
    #2184075 - 12/16/03 11:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

SWIM has already worked on MHRB matter with no problems, in terms of an acid/basic extraction, without defatting.
now with a new batch from another supplier things went strange during the procedure - SWIM first went to try straight with no defat but then it turned all gray and looked pretty dirty. he then acidified it back to pH 2 for a defatting process, his main question is: should he see any color change in the solvent (DCM)??? how long and how many times are really needed???
things returned to their regular colors after the pH came back to the acid side but i can see what must be tannins (dark red floating around, not solved into any of the solvents present)...


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Re: tryptamine extraction from MHRB - WTF? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2188285 - 12/18/03 05:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

MHRB?


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Re: tryptamine extraction from MHRB - WTF? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2188299 - 12/18/03 06:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

mimosa hostillis rootbark. The solvent doesnt really change colors that much when it grabs the alks, to awnser your question. 3 times is sufficent usually.


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Re: tryptamine extraction from MHRB - WTF? [Re: Infrared]
    #2188764 - 12/18/03 10:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yup, MHRB.
this one seems to contain tons of tannins!
also, it was good to know the organic solvent won't change its color...
how about the bubbles? shouldn't swim have tons of it? swim didn't when he collected one extraction tonight...
swim is using DCM but it seems the suspended alkaloids have a hard time to cross the tension that forms between the layers of solvents (polar/non)...
any idea on how long does it takes to defat/extract for each organic solvent soak?
thanks a lot for the inputs!


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Re: tryptamine extraction from MHRB - WTF? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2193567 - 12/20/03 10:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

http://dmt.lycaeum.org/dmt/p2/phpBB2/

Usually the solvent doesnt take in much color (unless you count emulsion), sometimes you see oily convections if you hold it in the right lighting. But with de-fatting you cant really go by color, just do it 3 or 4 times and you're good.

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Re: tryptamine extraction from MHRB - WTF? [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #2193610 - 12/20/03 10:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

it was rather the inner layer of the bark...
in yours SWIMS experiences, what kind of bark has proofed to be most free of tannins?
SWIM found the more barky (with lots of the outer dead coating) had little tannins but he cannot compare the goodies levels so far...
a site even claims that only the INNER root is used, i find it so contradictory! but who knows?
i'll look for your links....


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